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garnet13aj

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TX Reef and Beth I'm going to check out the sites you posted within the next week. I have a final on saturday and a paper due on monday and then I have a few days off before my last few finals, and then I'll have two weeks off!
 

garnet13aj

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I came up with an additional question today while preforming my water change on my aquarium. Although it was partially inspired by reefreak29, I have asked myself this question before and I welcome answers by any and all people who are capable of forming opinions and thoughts (that should include an extremely large chunk of the population). Does your belief in God shape your attitude toward global warming and if so how.
 

reefreak29

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Originally Posted by garnet13aj
I came up with an additional question today while preforming my water change on my aquarium. Although it was partially inspired by reefreak29, I have asked myself this question before and I welcome answers by any and all people who are capable of forming opinions and thoughts (that should include an extremely large chunk of the population). Does your belief in God shape your attitude toward global warming and if so how.
thats very interesting, so im going to have to say......
 

garnet13aj

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I don't get it, is that your way of indirectly saying you don't want to answer the question? If so, why not just not answer the question instead of being sarcastic?
 

garnet13aj

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So I'll say some of the things I do to reduce my ecological footprint:
-Recycle
-Take the bus when possible (I'm in college so it's not too hard)
-Unplug appliances when they are not in use (I didn't know until recently that power and energy is being used even when the someone is not using that appliances if they are still plugged in)
-Reuse or find new uses for old containers etc.
-Buy used when possible
-Eat less animal products (I don't eat meat, but I do eat fish, eggs, dairy products--I'm trying to cut out seafood, but it's really hard because it's a really good source of some of the nutrients that are hard to get being a vegitarian.)
If you want to see what your ecological footprint is check out this site:
http://www.myfootprint.org/
It's not perfect, but it's a working model that gives you an idea of how you compare to the rest of the US and world.
 

zman1

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I took the ecological footprint survey. I was supprised it didn't ask about water consumption and waste/sewage.
 

garnet13aj

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zman1I took the ecological footprint survey. I was supprised it didn't ask about water consumption and waste/sewage.

Yeah there are a lot of other questions it could ask. I edited my post above to mention that it's not a perfect model but it gives an idea of how you compare to other people and makes me think about what I could do to have less of an impact.
I'm not sure what it means about waste production but it doesn't mention recycling and that's something i think should make a difference also. As wel as maybe how much energy you think you use compared to other people, it's hard to quantify but I don't leave my lights on unnecessarily and I would think that would make a difference too.
 

zman1

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I am sure it has some generic numbers built-in for utilities based on home size and number of people. Swimming pools, Fish tanks (Water/Elec.), lawn watering probably aren't the norm in the numbers though...
 

garnet13aj

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I didn't even think of that watering the lawn that's a good one. My biology teacher suggested that if we had ways to improve the test let the makers know, so I might send them some sort of email. But they've spent a lot of time on it and I'm sure it does more good than harm overall. It takes care of most of the basic, biggest categories.
 

zman1

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So thank god, based on this survey, there are the countries that have and those that don't in the world to balance my footprint out. footprint 24 - 5.5 planets
With these answers I gave below living in the lap-of- luxury of a 500 sqft home w/electric, running water, and a car driven less than 100 miles a week, we only need 1.1 planets. This survey/quiz is so self serving, it's not funny - well maybe LOL
Total Footprint for these answers 5 , 1.1 planets
1 . Never eat meat based products
2 50 % food is processed
3 Waste much less than neighbors
4. 4 people living in house
5 - 500 Sq foot home
6 Free standing house with running water
7 home has electricity With E
8. Public trans 0 miles
9 Motorbike 0 miles -- must be UK based survey We call them motorcycles
10 Drive each week in car 10-100 miles
11. Seldom- use a bicycle, walk or animal power
12 Never Fly -
13 MPG car -25-35
14 Ride with someone else - 50 %
 

zman1

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I did find a place, if we were to pattern ourselves after them, we could all make it on one planet with a little reserve.... 1.0 PLANETS
Ethiopia
IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 1.0 PLANETS.
 

garnet13aj

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The funny thing is, they probably don't even have computers in most places in Ethiopia so they can't even take the survey.
It's kind of addicting to mess around w/and in the US we would have to give up practically everything that we rely on to live, but there are ways that we can make a difference...as long as the rest of the world still doesn't live the way we do, it's a gamble but the entire world isn't going to catch up to us in the next 50 years I don't think.
 

reckler

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I don't believe in global warming and I don;t believe these so called scientists. I think we make something special out of nothing for someone benefit. meaning, there are people out there that no matter what you tell them they won't believe you, unless you tell them what they want to hear.
I was watching this program on the history channel one time about jesus. they said he was married and had kids from the prostute. I was raised in a church and never in my life had any discussions about his WIFE or KIDS.. that is what the scientis are getting paid for, too spread they lies to people who believe it. I am not calling all of the liers, but there are a few out there that have way to much time on there hands.
When we had our last ice age, was it the cause of humans? NO!
if you notice, everything must come full circle in life. I believe it is written that way. humans or no humans. everything born must end. that is the way it has been from the beginning of time.
as far as this global warming thing. If you think you are going to ever see it or be here when it happens, then you should try to stop it. I personally will not be here in 100, 200, or even 1,000,000 years to see it if it really does exsist.
Technology is advancing at an alarming rate these days. If it does exsist, don't you think someone will stop it.
I live my life day by day and try not to worry about the future and what it will bring. there is too many things in the world that we should worry about as it is now, and we aren't trying to solve those problems.
This is my own opinion on the matter. I hope No one will be offended.
almost forgot. these scientists know more about other planets and how we can move there to destroy them, but still don't know half of our own oceans and how to save them.
 

garnet13aj

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reckler: these scientists know more about other planets and how we can move there to destroy them, but still don't know half of our own oceans and how to save them.
I don't know that scientists have actually found out how to realistically live on other planets yet, it's been researched but I haven't seen anything to support that. Do you have specific support for that?
I don't believe in global warming and I don;t believe these so called scientists
What do you mean by so-called scientists? Do you not believe in all science or do you think there has to be more support than there is at this point because "Two thousand scientists, in a hundred countries, working for more than 20 years in the most elaborate and well-organized scientific collaboration in the history of humankind, have forged an exceptionally strong consensus that all the nations on Earth must work together to solve the crisis of global warming". That quote is from the introduction from An Inconvenient Truth and that is a pretty strong consensus.
Also from An Inconvenient Truth:
•In a study done analyzing the percentage of articles written in peer-reviewed scientific journals that were in doubt as to the cause of global warming, 928 articles about global warming were selected and 0% of them doubted the cause of global warming. (pg. 262)
oAlong side this study a study was done analyzing articles written about global warming in top 4 influential newspapers in America. Of 636 articles (about 18% of articles written about global warming in the past 14 years in these newspapers) over 50% of the articles gave equal weight to the consensus that human beings play a crucial part in global warming and to the view that human beings don’t play any role in global warming.
(pg. 263 inside)
oThis misconception about our role in global warming has been funded by a few influential oil, utility, and coal companies including Exxon Mobil
o“Here was the group’s stated objective: to ‘reposition global warming as theory rather than fact,’” (263).
I was watching this program on the history channel one time about jesus. they said he was married and had kids from the prostute. I was raised in a church and never in my life had any discussions about his WIFE or KIDS.. that is what the scientis are getting paid for, too spread they lies to people who believe it.
Unless I'm wrong (correct me if I am) those were historians not scientists who said that. The difference that historians have to infer and base their ideas on other peoples accounts (eyewitness is not the most reliable form of retrieving information).
When we had our last ice age, was it the cause of humans? NO!
if you notice, everything must come full circle in life. I believe it is written that way. humans or no humans. everything born must end. that is the way it has been from the beginning of time.
Yes, naturals cycles are a part of life, the difference now is that we are acclerating that cycle.
•It took more than 10,000 generations for the human population to reach 2 billion. Then it began to rocket upward from 2 billion to 9 billion in the course of a single lifetime: ours. (AKA the more people on the earth the more we are able to affect the earth)
If it does exsist, don't you think someone will stop it
You're a human being too, why should it be someone else's responsibility to save the life of you and your family?
 

reefreak29

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Originally Posted by garnet13aj
I don't know that scientists have actually found out how to realistically live on other planets yet, it's been researched but I haven't seen anything to support that. Do you have specific support for that?
What do you mean by so-called scientists? Do you not believe in all science or do you think there has to be more support than there is at this point because "Two thousand scientists, in a hundred countries, working for more than 20 years in the most elaborate and well-organized scientific collaboration in the history of humankind, have forged an exceptionally strong consensus that all the nations on Earth must work together to solve the crisis of global warming". That quote is from the introduction from An Inconvenient Truth and that is a pretty strong consensus.
Also from An Inconvenient Truth:
•In a study done analyzing the percentage of articles written in peer-reviewed scientific journals that were in doubt as to the cause of global warming, 928 articles about global warming were selected and 0% of them doubted the cause of global warming. (pg. 262)
oAlong side this study a study was done analyzing articles written about global warming in top 4 influential newspapers in America. Of 636 articles (about 18% of articles written about global warming in the past 14 years in these newspapers) over 50% of the articles gave equal weight to the consensus that human beings play a crucial part in global warming and to the view that human beings don’t play any role in global warming.
(pg. 263 inside)
oThis misconception about our role in global warming has been funded by a few influential oil, utility, and coal companies including Exxon Mobil
o“Here was the group’s stated objective: to ‘reposition global warming as theory rather than fact,’” (263).
Unless I'm wrong (correct me if I am) those were historians not scientists who said that. The difference that historians have to infer and base their ideas on other peoples accounts (eyewitness is not the most reliable form of retrieving information).
Yes, naturals cycles are a part of life, the difference now is that we are acclerating that cycle.
•It took more than 10,000 generations for the human population to reach 2 billion. Then it began to rocket upward from 2 billion to 9 billion in the course of a single lifetime: ours. (AKA the more people on the earth the more we are able to affect the earth)
You're a human being too, why should it be someone else's responsibility to save the life of you and your family?
garnet your beating a dead horse
 
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