What do you think about s-e-x education being taught in the classroom?

sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2634098
Yes they do. But they didn't teach how to do drugs. They didn't tell me how a sterilize a dirty needle, how to tie-off, etc. They did teach me how intercourse works though. My point was that I was trying explain stdreb's point as I saw it. Two activities are illegal, doing drugs and minor-aged sexual activity. I can't see how you can condone one illegal activity, and abolish the other, which leads me to:
No, no. I fully support se-x ed in the classroom(even if it makes me a hypocrite). The 'law' I was talking about was the one that could be applied that it is illegal for two consenting minors to partake in a sexual act. I feel that law does not make any sense and if two minors what to do the deed, they should be allowed.
Well that’s a double edge sword, and that sword is even sharper when you talk about those laws.
I agree with Megan’s law but they made it very broad and the punishment is even stronger.
I don’t even want to discuss it because its just going to make bad feelings. Its not worth it to me.
But I agree with you about the ideas of two teens of the same age deciding to go and perform the act with each other, the courts need to look at the whole picture and not go with an “out of the book “ punishment.
Their will always be a double standard too.
 
sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2634533
When was the last time any of you were actually impressed with the public education system in the USA?
Does anyone really believe the public education system could properly handle a topic like this?
Here's a novel concept; Let's teach students to read, write, and do simple mathmatical equations without the need for a calculator. Once we've perfected that we can move on to bigger social issues.
This is simply another step in the Government raising kids so parents don't have too...

I should let my wife reply to this but she’s not home so ill hit this one for her since I know her feelings. I get to listen to them over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Your right 100 percent. The school programs are advancing with the times. Computer, digital age. Now wit that advancement comes the problems that kids are losing a lot in the end. Basic math skills, language arts , English are being destroyed with text typing and word compression ( BFFE, TTYL, L8R, H8R) proper writing techniques cause kids type everything, they have calculators on everything and computers that tell them what to do.
Ask a student why they should learn and know basic math skills. The answer will be I don’t everything is computerized.
 
darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2634694
and what would you consider a "poor" person to be. a non-millionaire or a bum on the streets? because i dont know many bums but i doubt they vote. and middle class all i can say is that is most of america and if your one of those millionaires i would hope that you would have less tax breaks and more taxes taken out than a middle class citizen.
A poor person is someone that classifies and accepts every social opportunity afforded them by the government. Welfare, transportation, medicare, section 8 housing, That is a poor person. as that person does not understand what it is like to work hard for your living and family and see 48% of his check get taken from him in taxes.
(Yes my brother pays 48% in taxes And this is the group that Obama wants to raise taxes on more to pay for healthcare..)
Armywife, I am sorry, you do not have to be a parent to understand the concept and basics behind parenting. That is my whole point and a on parent has just as much right to voice their opinion as a parent as the future of your child will affect them as well. Don't believe me....Tell that to the non parent victims of Jeffrey Dahmer, or the washington highway sniper....
 
sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2634669
On subject. I had the talk with my dad when I was younger, the talk also involved drugs cigs and alcohol. Later in school --- ed didn't tell me anything my my parents hadn't told me already. and on top of it, the year after --- ed, 2 girls came down with aids and 7 were pregnant...yeah that class worked. My graduating class had 75 kids in it....so 10 percent with in a year didn't learn anything in that class....
So the lesson worked, right. If only 7.5 kids out of 75 did not learn the lesson then the school is not at fault. That 7.5 kids can blame their parents for not doing what the the parents should have been doing.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2634911
So the lesson worked, right. If only 7.5 kids out of 75 did not learn the lesson then the school is not at fault. That 7.5 kids can blame their parents for not doing what the the parents should have been doing.
75 people from 1 place is a HORRIBLE sample. Just like Alix's school is a horrible sample size. Simply unaplicable.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2634911
So the lesson worked, right. If only 7.5 kids out of 75 did not learn the lesson then the school is not at fault. That 7.5 kids can blame their parents for not doing what the the parents should have been doing.

Would you be ok sending your children to a school where 10 percent of the students failed math english, history, and other classes? If a 10% failure rate on the public education systems class of --- ed is acceptable.
 
armywife1314

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2634905
A poor person is someone that classifies and accepts every social opportunity afforded them by the government. Welfare, transportation, medicare, section 8 housing, That is a poor person. as that person does not understand what it is like to work hard for your living and family and see 48% of his check get taken from him in taxes.
(Yes my brother pays 48% in taxes And this is the group that Obama wants to raise taxes on more to pay for healthcare..)
Armywife, I am sorry, you do not have to be a parent to understand the concept and basics behind parenting. That is my whole point and a on parent has just as much right to voice their opinion as a parent as the future of your child will affect them as well. Don't believe me....Tell that to the non parent victims of Jeffrey Dahmer, or the washington highway sniper....
im not saying that you have to be a parent to understand the basics im saying that you dont know how it is to talk to a child about --- that is your child until you have them, you wont know how you will react. and saying that you will do this when your a parent or you will not do that is just wrong because you dont know what you will do. life changes when you get married and changes again once you become a parent, everytime. parents need and should teach their kids things. but i know when i was a teen i sure didnt want to hear about my parents --- life, i heard it from my friends at school or their older brothers and sisters, almost all bad information. but the fact is that a lot of parents dont parent and there is the downfall the harms the public school system, they have to make it up during class time. things that should be learned at home are being learned at school but that is how things are now days. my point to stdreb in the first place was that he is young with no kids and doesnt know how he will react when that time comes. it definetly wasnt to get into a political debate with you. i dont like politics in the least. to me its a popularity contest where you know your getting lied to and still support the people.
 
armywife1314

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when i was in school we didnt have s.ex ed but just a few days in health class. my school was 3a boarding 4a and only 2 were pregnant the entire time. but in my small town if you were pregnant or had an std before graduation everyone knew and you might as well move. but i have no idea how many kids had abortions either.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2634955
Would you be ok sending your children to a school where 10 percent of the students failed math english, history, and other classes? If a 10% failure rate on the public education systems class of --- ed is acceptable.
I'm pretty sure the dropout rate imo more aplicable than failure rates in reflecting the quality of school is higher than that.
 
darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2634970
I'm pretty sure the dropout rate imo more aplicable than failure rates in reflecting the quality of school is higher than that.

Actually I would classify drop out rates as a direct reflection on the parents, I know if I even thought about Dropping out my dad would have beat me...
 
sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2634955
Would you be ok sending your children to a school where 10 percent of the students failed math english, history, and other classes? If a 10% failure rate on the public education systems class of --- ed is acceptable.
I should have asked was that 75 the entire school or your graduating class? If your school was 75 total then no that’s bad, I will retract that comment, but if that was just your graduating class. Then not bad numbers, not good but not bad.
You don’t have the numbers to argue what it could have been with out s-ex ed.
Also face the facts some kids are just stupid. The world will always need ditch diggers.
Again stop comparing apples to oranges. I could not have cared less about math when I was in school but was sure interested in S-EX in high school.
I devoted many weekend nights to better understanding that subject.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2634981
Actually I would classify drop out rates as a direct reflection on the parents, I know if I even thought about Dropping out my dad would have beat me...
Well, you know parents taking their kids out of schools, or kids just not going ect. Alot of times failing kids are passed on, dropouts isn't a number you can really massage like a letter grade.
 
sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by alix2.0
http:///forum/post/2634596
s3x education at our school is 100% abstinence, which i think is rediculous. some teacher saying "dont do it AT ALL" isnt going to make you not do it. i think that if they insist on teaching it, they should teach about being safe, so the kids that do do it at least know how to protect themselves.
we had "family issues" in 5th grade once a week for 6 weeks
"abstinence- the smart choice" in 6th grade twice a week for maybe 3 weeks
"abstinence & STDs" in 7th and 8th grade for about 4 weeks a year
and "CATS / Abstinence" (Concerned About Teen S3xuality) in health, which i took when i was a freshman. lasted i think a week.
in the past 4 years weve had about 10 pregnant girls in the highschool and middle school. hmmm, i dont think its working.
your in nyc how many kids attend each school?
Then you need to look at economical status Then the parents. You can not base numbers of ill effected teens. Some teens are doomed by certain life styles.
 
hlcroghan

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Wow, I wonder what this thread is doing here?? Was someone watching their fish mating?? Anyway, let me give some personal testament. I had my first se- education class in 5th grade. It was the basics. Condoms, contraceptives, and so forth. Then again in a different school district I had in 9th grade. By that next year I knew more than I ever needed to know and guess what?? I had all the information and knowledge and I had --- anyway by age 14. I was very lucky. I never got pregnant or had an STD but I did it unsafely a lot all the way through until I was an adult and I had children. My main reason for this was my environment, not the amount of or lack of education I was getting. The main thing that needs to happen is parents need to be aware of what their children are doing, where they are going and who they are with. My mother was very involved in my life, but like most parents, she worked and couldn't be with me 24/7. I honestly do not think that education will help one way or another for most children. Do I think that children should be in the dark completely? No. I do think they should know some basics but do I think it will stop them from gettin it on? Absolutely not. That is why there are hormones. To make us want to reproduce. Keep a very close eye on your child. That is they one thing that will keep this under control more than anything. Parental responsibility.
 
alix2.0

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2635007
your in nyc how many kids attend each school?
Then you need to look at economical status Then the parents. You can not base numbers of ill effected teens. Some teens are doomed by certain life styles.
i live and go to school in ohio, there are approximately 450 students in my highschool. about 400 in the middle school, maybe less.
 
renogaw

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Originally Posted by alix2.0
http:///forum/post/2635192
i live and go to school in ohio, there are approximately 450 students in my highschool. about 400 in the middle school, maybe less.
you gotta change your location or people are always going to think that.
 
nicetry

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The first time I had s e x I was terrified. I was all alone!
I told my kid about the birds and the bees. He told me about my wife and the mailman!
In high school, my daughter was voted most likely to conceive.

Thank you! Thank you very much! I'll be here all week!
 
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