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zman

Member
yeah it goes slow right at the start. It is a good idea to add stuff slowly. I just put the black background back on my tank and it makes the colors stand out a lot better. Also in case you didn't notice i have 20 pounds of white live sand and 10 pounds of black decorative sand mixed together to give it a salt and pepper look. I am getting a shipment of new stuff in tomorrow. I am gettin a pink tip hatian anemone, a percelain crab, a horse shoe crab, 2 peppermint shrimp, and some ricordea polyps. Also i am getting a firefish goby and a fridmani. i will post some pics on here when i get them all acclimated. I am going to put the fish in the QT for a couple weeks to make sure they don't have any parasites and add all the inverts to the display. Good luck with your tank! Keep us posted on your new additions. :)
Zman
 

fishphreak

Member
Cool additions to your tank.
Yeah I didn't realize how long it would take to make a really pretty tank.
I'm pet shopping saturday I was going to get a replacement domino but since you thought it would be best to add it last I think I wait on the domino. But I am kinda iffy about adding fridmani or the clown fish now because the store I will be getting them from they are $50 each and I can't quarantine them. I have been looking at different website about saltwater fish and they all say somthing different.
One says to add the flame angel last because it is aggressive and another one will say that is a very peaceful fish. One says damsels are peaceful and then another says they are aggressive. So I'm not sure what I should get next.
What do you think the chances are that I just got a bad domino and that the store wasn't to blame?
 

zman

Member
chances are it could have been bad........if it was a big chain pet store like ***** for example.......i bet would was bad then. first thing i would do before adding more expensive fish would be to find a cheap one and put it in there and see how it does. That if it dies it won't be $50 down the drain. But if you put a fish in the display tank without quarantining them you could infect all the fish in your display tank.........and the only way that i have heard of getting rid of ich withouth treating it with something that will kill the inverts would be to just let the tank sit after all the fish die, cuz ich can't live more that 21 days without a fish host. That is what i had to do with my tank when i didn't have a quarantine. Also i heard it is recomended to have at least a 45-50 gallon tank for a flame angel, but not quite sure.
Zman
 

fishphreak

Member
I was going to wait on the 125g for flame angel.
It is small store the guy that owns it also runs it and gets all his fish from one breeder that he trusts. I have NEVER seen a dead fish in any of his tanks unlike the large chain stores. I think I will give it another try and see if anything else unplesent happens.
I could get another damsel and then take it back to the pet store if it gets to aggressive until my tank is more established or I have a QT or both.
Thanks for all the help,
Jessica
 

fishphreak

Member
just got off the phone with the guy that sold me the fish. He thinks my fish was bullied. He reccommed getting 2 damels at the same time and said they should be fine. So I guess I am going to try that since there really isn't anything that is safe to add right now. Then take them back when my tank is well established.
Thanks for the info on PC lights. I just found a 96 watt pc retro kit with actinic for $65 I think it will be enough for this 29g. I really apperciate you giving me the info on them. I can go ahead a get those now so maybe I can add a few anemones and coral soon.
Thanks again for all the help,
Jessica
 

zman

Member
no problem on the info, always love to help out. so i was right about the domino being bullied
lol just playin. I hope everything with your tank goes well. now if you get those lights you can buy more stuff for your tank and make it up to $75 easier :)
Zman
P.S. How old are you BTW
 

sltwtronly

New Member
zman,
just curious what is a pc light? i have a 28 gallon aqua-via tank with built il lights and filter. i have a light that looks flourescent but it sayd the bulbs were made for fish tanks. they are not just normal lights. just curious thanks.
 

fishphreak

Member
they are most likely just flourscent lights. if you paid $30 or less 99% chance that is flourscent.
If there are 2 pins at the end of the bulb then it is flourscent.
If there are 4 pins at the end of the bulb then it is PC
if you are interested in Pc/VHO, or MH check out this site, they have some pretty good prices.
http://www.championlighting.com/e/en...nk=/index.html
Hope this helps
 

fishphreak

Member
Zman,
Yep, you were right about him being bullied. Apparently those 3 good sideswipes were enough to stress him that badly.
Yeah the $75 will be easy now, I can already think of several anemones and corals that I want.
I will be be 24 this coming Sunday.
Thanks for everything,
Jessica
 

fishphreak

Member
clarification
When I said the pet store told me to acclamate my for 5 minutes, that may have something to do with the fact that I have my ph levels, nitrites, nitrates, ammonia, and temp. at the same levels as his. I did this because I thought it would help the fish if my tank was a close as possible to the tanks that they were coming from. That is probably why he told me I only needed to float them for 5 minutes.
Sorry about that,
Jessica
 

zman

Member
ok if they are the same as his it would probably be ok. here are a couple of easy to take care of beginner anemones.
Bubble Tip Anemone (not the rose one)
Pink Tip Hatian
Condylactis (sp)
Florida Condi (possibly, not quite sure)
Which ones were you thinking of buying?
Also the Bubble tips host clowns when they are big enough and so do the condi i believe
Hope that helps!
slt, as for PC lights it is a type of flourescent but has more power than a reg flourescent i believe also most setups are cheaper than metal halides.
Zman
 

fishphreak

Member
Yeah I was just about to ask if you had any anemone suggestions for percula clowns.
I was thinking about getting a bubble tip, a condi, or the pink haitian. maybe all of them.... but not in a 29g.
Would a Bulb Anemone be a good choice?
I really want to get something that will host clowns as well as look cool.
I have heard that the green carpet anemone is good with clowns but I also heard that it will eat my fish, that would not be cool.
I will probably go with the bubble tip or condi, they probably have a better chance of hosting my clowns when I get them. I also like the that they are easy to care for.
Oh, the bubble tip and the condi won't eat my fish will they???
Thanks again,
Jessica
 

fishphreak

Member
zman,
check out championlighting.com they may have the lights you are planning to get for less. I found the complete retro fit kit there for $65
 

fishphreak

Member
Just thought of another question. Since I don't have a QT right now how beneficial would it be to get a UV Sterilizer? Is it worth the money?
Thanks,
Jessica
 

sltwtronly

New Member
thank you it did help very much. just one more question.....all i have it 2 pins so i guess i do have just flourescent lights but do i have to change the whole fixture for the 4 prong bulbs? ty again for you help.
 

zman

Member
the bubble tip or the condi would be good for you to start with, im not sure about the carpet anemones eating fish, not quite sure about the uv sterilizer i have never used one myself, i would start a new thread and ask about those.
Slt, you do need to get a new ballast to fit the 4 prong bulbs
I just got my shipment of Livestock in today.........i hope nothing dies........i will post some pictures later once i get them all acclimated.
Zman
 

sltwtronly

New Member
COOL I BELIEVE THEY HAVE WHAT I NEED. APPRECIATE HTE HELP AND I HOPE THE PC LIGHTS WILL GIVE ME SOME BETTER LUCK. HAS ANYONE CHANGED FROM FLOUR. TO PC AND IF SO DID THEY NOTICE DIFFERENCE?
 
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