Whats your speed?

slice

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And here I thought this was a Grateful Dead thread...
Drivin' that train
High on cocaine
Casey Jones you better
watch your speed

oh wait...you said WHATS your speed...ok...
Here at work, we are on a T1 over an mpls up to Lex Ky (headquarters).
Just checked and we are 1.39Mbps Up, 1.30Mbps Down.
At home I am on TW Roadrunner, usually getting ~600kup, 3.5M-ish down.
 

meowzer

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So I just called my phone company again, and told them that whatever they did yesterday actually made my computer slower :(
When they test it from their equip...it is showing that I am getting almost 3000kbps.....last night I got between 200 and 768...and missed most of my game

He made a few adjustments just now, and gave me his cell # so I can call him tonight....LOL....If this doesn't work, he willcome out Friday when I am home and test some lines
I'm thinking if I am getting all that speed INTO the modem....why it is not coming out of the modem into my computers.....I will see what happens tonight
OH...he also said he was showig my PING at 27...and that is very good
no clue haha
 

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/385000/whats-your-speed#post_3374857
Your confusing the terms "central office" and local switch. Central office is the main switch for the town. IN the way old days of years gone by, the central office is where the operators worked and connected the calls. When the switched network came online, Ma Bell built local switches in various neighborhoods and installed switches. These switches can be found as little brick buildings out in the middle of no where. And yea, you need to be within 5 miles of the local switch inorder to get DSL to function.
The town I live in has fiber in it and the town I moved from had fiber in it. Currently both towns are served by Time Warner so it makes sense that they have fiber. I have been in Time Warner's fiber switching station here in town and it was really cool to see. When I taught classes here, I took the students into the switching station so that they could better understand the terminology. The really funny thing is that the switching station was run by Time Warner Telecom and sold services to Time Warner Cable. 2 Different companies with the same parent.
I get 20 Mbps to Syracuse is because that test is done completely over Time Warner's network. The speed will be faster in that test always. I usually get around 10 Mbps to just about anywhere.
@Aqua : your speeds from 1 am to 6 am could be because your local ISP is selling that bandwith to other providers. The thought process is that no one is awake and doing anything during that time so why not sell that "unused" bandwith to a company that will use it and reap the benefits? Its like selling the unused computing cycles of your PC to research labratories or universities. Your not using the PC and some one is willing to pay for those computing times, why not do it?
No, you're confusing the two. Talk to any provider of DSL, and they still call those little "switch closets" you speak of CO's. I installed equipment in several of them around town.
And how do you know that circuit you get 20Mbps on is strictly a Time Warner network? They send you a physical layout of that network that you can look at? Ever hear of an MPLS cloud? Get the IP of that 'destination' you hit, go to a command prompt and do a 'tracert 'IP Address'. See how many hops you get and where it goes. That'll tell you what network you're on.
 

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/385000/whats-your-speed/20#post_3374896
So I just called my phone company again, and told them that whatever they did yesterday actually made my computer slower :(
When they test it from their equip...it is showing that I am getting almost 3000kbps.....last night I got between 200 and 768...and missed most of my game

He made a few adjustments just now, and gave me his cell # so I can call him tonight....LOL....If this doesn't work, he willcome out Friday when I am home and test some lines
I'm thinking if I am getting all that speed INTO the modem....why it is not coming out of the modem into my computers.....I will see what happens tonight
OH...he also said he was showig my PING at 27...and that is very good
no clue haha
That 27 is in milliseconds. A PING in computer terms in analgous to the old Navy term of 'pinging' with active sonar. You'd send a sound out through the water in the form of a 'PING', and you'd count the timeframe as far as how long it would take to get an echo response back. If he's get 27 milliseconds frm his CO to your modem, that's really not all that bad. You could be having a problem with the network port on your router/modem that your computer is connected to. That or the cable you're using between your PC and router. Or do you just use wireless?
 

meowzer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385000/whats-your-speed/20#post_3374909
That 27 is in milliseconds. A PING in computer terms in analgous to the old Navy term of 'pinging' with active sonar. You'd send a sound out through the water in the form of a 'PING', and you'd count the timeframe as far as how long it would take to get an echo response back. If he's get 27 milliseconds frm his CO to your modem, that's really not all that bad. You could be having a problem with the network port on your router/modem that your computer is connected to. That or the cable you're using between your PC and router. Or do you just use wireless?
My desktop is wired, and my laptop is wireless
I'm hoping whatever he did today will work...If not, he will come Friday....Like I said to him....if it shows I am getting 3000kps (whatever) to the modem....then something is stopping it from coming out HAHA
 

scsinet

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Quote:
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/385000/whats-your-speed/20#post_3374896
So I just called my phone company again, and told them that whatever they did yesterday actually made my computer slower :(
When they test it from their equip...it is showing that I am getting almost 3000kbps.....last night I got between 200 and 768...and missed most of my game

He made a few adjustments just now, and gave me his cell # so I can call him tonight....LOL....If this doesn't work, he willcome out Friday when I am home and test some lines
I'm thinking if I am getting all that speed INTO the modem....why it is not coming out of the modem into my computers.....I will see what happens tonight
OH...he also said he was showig my PING at 27...and that is very good
no clue haha
A couple random thoughts here...
If you are using more than one computer, then you obviously are running a router. That is either built into your modem and is therefore entirely ISP supplied, or it is a separate device you have set up. Most of the modems provided by the ISP do not have wireless, so I'm betting you have a separate wireless router.
There could be something wrong with the router that is limiting you.
If your ISP is saying that you are getting a full 3Mb from your connection, here are things to suspect, not necessarily in order of likelihood.
1. Bad cabling. A bad cable in the traffic path can cause severe problems. Often the CAT5 cable installed in houses today is installed by electricians who do not have a clue how to properly terminate connections to ensure correct performance.
2. Freeloaders. If the neighbor kid is hanging off your wireless sitting on torrent sites all day, he could be saturating your connection. Pretty much all wireless security available to home users is breakable by a determined script kiddy.
3. Bad switch ports or other issues somewhere causing collisions and transmit errors on your network. Duplex mismatching is another possibility, though not with wireless.
4. Malware on one of your computers consuming huge amounts of internet traffic
5. VPN. If you are using VPN to connect to work, the VPN could be configured to tunnel all traffic, which will likely cause a severe performance degredation as long as you are connected.
Provided the ISP is giving you accurate information, some things to try:
1. Change your wireless encryption. If someone has broken into your network, they will be kicked out at least long enough for you to re-test. Even better, disable wireless on your router, and do the test from your cabled PC.
2. Shut down every computer connected to your connection except one, and try. If that doesn't work, shut down the remaining PC and turn on another, and re-test. That will reduce the possibility that malware is your issue.
3. Set up a PC cabled directly to your modem, disconnecting the router and everything else. See if that changes things. This will eliminate most variables taking place "past" the ISP's modem.
 

meowzer

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HMMM
1. I have NO neighbors...LOL
2. I have "kinda" tried that.....I did the desktop (which is wired) when it was on alone.....and the new laptop (wireless) w/o the desktop on
3. I'm kinda confused
I have one box that the company gave (sold) me. It is similar to this, BUT only has one antenna and it is one the side......I'm trying to remember how this works...LOL...I THINK ...the cable from my computer goes into it....and another cable goes from the router into the "wall" plug.....There is no other box
 

bionicarm

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Your router/modem has built-in wireless. Most providers supply those devices these days. When you connect to the wireless, do you have to put some kind of number in a box to authenticate (called a WEP Key). If so, where did you get the key? If it was from your ISP installer, then your wireless is on that device. What's the difference in the speed test when you run it on your desktop, and when you run it on the wireless? Most 'hard-wired' ports on the router are 100Mbps. The wireless (which is probably 802.11G) goes to a max of 54Mbps, but degrades depending on signal strength, and how many wireless devices are connected at the same time. If you only have a 3Mbps service, you should get about the same results on both your desktop and your laptop. If you are, then there could be something wrong with the modem. If the laptop speed is faster than the desktop speed, then it goes back to a bad port or cable.
 

meowzer

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I believe they hooked up the router and supplied the wep...all my computers connect automatically
When I get home I am going to re-run these speed tests and see what I get.....The service I am supposed to be getting now is supposed to be 3000kbps (hmmm I guess that is 3mbps)haha
SOOOO you are saying 1. the Desktop and laptop should be the same speed??.....2. If the laptop is faster..it's a cable (or port)??
 

monsinour

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condacending to me with a trace route command. Nice. Todo lo que
Meow, when you watch the games on your laptop, are you in the same room as your WAP? Is it in another room? Is there a cordless phone in the room with the WAP? Do you have more than the laptop using the wireless? Do you have a pringles can?
WAP = Wireless Access Point
 

darthtang aw

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I like bionicarm today.
Darth (it could happen) Tang
P.s. This is one subject I wont argue with bionic about. He could tell me cat5 is made from recycled alligator droppings and I would not argue with him.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/385000/whats-your-speed/20#post_3374955
condacending to me with a trace route command. Nice. Todo lo que
Meow, when you watch the games on your laptop, are you in the same room as your WAP? Is it in another room? Is there a cordless phone in the room with the WAP? Do you have more than the laptop using the wireless? Do you have a pringles can?
WAP = Wireless Access Point
My laptop is in another room.....the room with the WAP has a CORDED phone....My husbands PS3 is also wireless......A PRINGLES CAN?????
 

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/385000/whats-your-speed/20#post_3374961
My laptop is in another room.....the room with the WAP has a CORDED phone....My husbands PS3 is also wireless......A PRINGLES CAN?????
Guess he wants you to put a string on one end, and hook it up to your WAP on the other and see what kind of speed you get talking through it.

Is your laptop slower when you husband is playing online games? If so, that would explain that.
Like I said, the max throughput on your desktop to the router would be 100Mbs. The max on your laptop is 54Mbps. The max leaving your router and out to the vast world of the Internet - 3Mbps. Think you see where the bottleneck is. So theoretically the speed out should be the same. If you're getting slower speed test reponses on your desktop, I would suspect a bad cable or port. If both desktop and laptop are slow, probable cause is a bad router/modem.
I had a similar problem to yours last year. Everytime my daughter cranked up her laptop and used the wireless, all the other PC's in the house slowed to a crawl. Eventually, the TV's even started freezing up. Ended up being a combination of a poor connection on my outside box, and a defective router.
Just make sure and verify all your inside wiring is OK before having a tech come over and test. I know with AT&T U-Verse, that if the cause of a problem is the outside wiring, the outside equipment, or the inside hardware (i.e router/modem), there's no charge. If they find the problem is your internal wiring (cables to PC's, bad coax or copper cable inside the house to the router), they charge you to fix it.
BTW, have you asked any of your neighbor's if they're experiencing slowness on their computers? I had a major issue one time, and working with the online tech, we determined the problem was a blade (part that has the network ports) in the router in my neighborhood SWITCH CLOSET. Figured that out when a couple of friends in the neighborhood said their computers and TV's intermittently froze up during peak hours.
 

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/385000/whats-your-speed/20#post_3374955
condacending to me with a trace route command. Nice. Todo lo que
Meow, when you watch the games on your laptop, are you in the same room as your WAP? Is it in another room? Is there a cordless phone in the room with the WAP? Do you have more than the laptop using the wireless? Do you have a pringles can?
WAP = Wireless Access Point
Condensending? Because I asked you to run a traceroute command? Excuse me, Mr. CCIE. Didn't mean to insult your vast intelligence on network theories...
 

meowzer

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LOL...REMEMBER.....I have NO neighbors....LOL
OK...Got home and tried this
Turned on LAPTOP only
Ping 75 Down load .84 Upload .42
MLB.com bandwidth test 795
TURNED off laptop..and turned on desktop
Ping 45 Download .89 Upload .43
MLB.com bandwidth 802
TURNED BOTH ON
Laptop
Ping 65 Download .83 Upload .43
MLB.com bandwidth 802
DESKTOP
Ping 55 Download .90 Upload .43
MLB.com bandwidth 796
SOOOOOOO they are all pretty comparable BUT NOWHERE near 3000
....OH AND the box I have is a ZHONE
My game starts at 6 central :) anything over 768kbps and I am ok to watch it....BUT I should have a lot more right now :(
 

bionicarm

Active Member
It's not your cable to your desktop. It's either a defective DSL modem, or something wrong with the circuit to your house. Get the tech to come to your house , and he has all this special test equipment to figure where the problem lies.
 

monsinour

Active Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385000/whats-your-speed/20#post_3374997
Condensending? Because I asked you to run a traceroute command? Excuse me, Mr. CCIE. Didn't mean to insult your vast intelligence on network theories...
Escuse me Mr. phone boy. The pringles can is a makeshift amplifier for any wireless access point. Too bad cordless phones mess with WAPs. But anyways, your still missing some vital questions to resolve the issue. Allow me.
Meow, how old is the house. Have you been the only owner? Where does the phone line enter the house? Do the lines run into a crawl space? About how old do you think the lines within the home are?
The phone company might get out of it with "the problem lies with the age of the wiring within the home. Since we do not service the wires within the home, you will have to replace those lines before your speed will increase." I have heard that several times. Basically the phone companies are getting a tad peeved that they are going the way of the dodo due to cellular service. This is why Verizon is working really hard on their service that includes satalite TV with their phone and internet. Eventually, the TV through the phone lines will work like it does downstate. Then again, if the power companies perfect internet over their power lines and all you have to do is plug your PC into the wall for power to get internet, then what are the phone and cable companies going to do? I am aware that OK doesnt have the worlds greatest cellular service and that there are other places in this country that dont have awesome cellular service. Its unfortunate that it costs $125,000 or more to put up a cell tower.
 

meowzer

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We are here 17 years, and the house is about 20 years old....we had the phone company do the wiring for the DSL, the box is right outside the bedroom...and that is where the router is.
I know the phone wiring is not old...OH no crawl space
 
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