Why we needed AZ immigration law 1070 in AZ

kjr_trig

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This is a report written by AZ Senator Sylvia Allen, it may help people understand why so much of our state strongly support it.
"I'm ArizonaState Senator Sylvia Allen. I want to explain SB 1070 which I voted for and was just signed by Governor Jan Brewer.
Rancher Rob Krantz was murdered by the drug cartel on his ranch a month ago. I participated in a senate hearing two weeks ago on the border violence, here is just some of the highlights from those who testified.
The people who live within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexico Border have for years been terrorized and have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of humans who cross their property . One Rancher testified that 300 to 1200 people a DAY come across his ranch vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles and property, cutting down his fences, and leaving trash. In the last two years he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles.
Another rancher testified that daily drugs are brought across his ranch in a military operation. A point man with a machine gun goes in front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind them are the drugs, behind the drugs 1/2 mile are more guards. These people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in the way. This was not the only rancher we heard that day that talked about the drug trains.
The border patrol is not on the border. They have set up 60 miles away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. They are not allowed to use force in stopping anyone who is entering. They run around chasing them, if they get their hands on them then they can take them back across the border.
20% of Arizona prisons are filled with illegal's. In the last few years 80% of our law enforcement that have been killed or wounded have been by an illegal.

The Federal Government has refused for years to do anything to help the border states . We have been over run and once they are here we have the burden of funding state services that they use. Education cost have been over a billion dollars. The healthcare cost billions of dollars. Our State is broke, $3.5 billion deficit and we have many serious decisions to make. One is that we do not have the money to care for any who are not here legally. It has to stop.
The border can be secured. We have the technology we have the ability to stop this invasion. We must know who is coming and they must come in an organized manner legally so that we can assimilate them into our population and protect the sovereignty of our country. We are a nation of laws. We have a responsibility to protect our citizens and to protect the integrity of our country and the government which we live under.
I would give amnesty today to many, but here is the problem, we dare not do this until the Border is secure. It will do no good to forgive them because thousands will come behind them and we will be over run to the point that there will no longer be the United States of America but a North American Union of open borders. I ask you what form of government will we live under? How long will it be before we will be just like Mexico , Canada or any of the other Central American or South American countries? We have already lost our language, everything must be printed in Spanish also. We have already lost our history it is no longer taught in our schools. And we have lost our borders.
The leftist media has distorted what SB 1070 will do. It is not going to set up a Nazi Germany . Are you kidding. The ACLU and the leftist courts will do everything to protect those who are here illegally, but it was an effort to try and stop illegal's from setting up businesses, and employment, and receiving state services and give the ability to local law enforcement when there is probable cause like a traffic stop to determine if they are here legally. Federal law is very clear if you are here on a visa you must have your papers on you at all times. That is the law. In Arizona all you need to show you are a legal citizen is a **************, MVD identification card, Native American Card, or a Military ID. This is what you need to vote, get a hunting license, etc.. So nothing new has been added to this law. No one is going to be stopped walking down the street etc... The Socialist who are in power in DC are angry because we dare try and do something and that something the Socialist wants us to do is just let them come. They want the "Transformation" to continue.
Maybe it is too late to save America . Maybe we are not worthy of freedom anymore. But as an elected official I must try to do what I can to protect our ConstitutionalRepublic . Living in America is not a right just because you can walk across the border. Being an American is a responsibility and it comes by respecting and upholding the Constitution the law of our land which says what you must do to be a citizen of this country. Freedom is not free."
 

stdreb27

Active Member
You have some fun woman politicians in AZ. That governor laying down the gauntlet for obama, has more huevos than any republican man in washington...
 

btldreef

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3270470
We could use someone like her running things in NY
I couldn't agree with you more! I just had my car broken into again this week! Love living one town over from Farmingville and Patchogue
 

dragonzim

Active Member
Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3270501
I couldn't agree with you more! I just had my car broken into again this week! Love living one town over from Farmingville and Patchogue
I lived in Selden for about 2 years, about 2 miles from the 7/11 on North Ocean where they all congregate... The place looks like a bomb went off with all the garbage all over the place.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3270528
Love it! Gloves are off!
I see your raise, and I'll raise you till you're all in...
Personally if I were governor, I'd pass a secondary bill, funding a bus/education program. I'd hire a buncha school busses, and then create a pamplate, then I'd bus all the captured illegals to the boycotting sanctuary city of their choice, and make sure they know where all the govt handout offices are... Drop em off at the front door...
 

btldreef

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Yeah, I'm a mile away. Sucks. I can't walk/run down my streets anymore without being harassed, but if I complain to anyone, I'm racist. I wouldn't care if they're purple, just don't harass me while I'm walking/running with my dog and don't break into my car
 

dragonzim

Active Member
Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3270555
Yeah, I'm a mile away. Sucks. I can't walk/run down my streets anymore without being harassed, but if I complain to anyone, I'm racist. I wouldn't care if they're purple, just don't harass me while I'm walking/running with my dog and don't break into my car
Kinda off topic, but do you know of a horse farm somewhere in Medford? Was looking on MLS the other day and saw an 11 acre horse farm with a 10,000 square foot main residence and a few smaller houses on the property listed for 4 million!
 

reefraff

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Just watched the dog and pony show at the White House. Had a couple mexican reports complaining about the Az law violating immigrants rights. HOW ABOUT OUR RIGHTS? I think all Iraq'a WMD's are hidden in Mexico, let's light it up
 

scottnlisa

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If you have a problem where you live, just move. Like I said before, if we send all the illegals back to mexico, why should we be able to stay here? This isn't our country. Our ancestors did the samething many years ago but the indians didn't send us back. This country was Never ours, never will be. The indians were here before us (germans, english, russias, etc..). Would it be right for the indians to deport us back to our home country. Let's ask them. Oh yeah, I forgot we took the land from them and gave them reservations.
 

handbanana

Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3270571
Just watched the dog and pony show at the White House. Had a couple mexican reports complaining about the Az law violating immigrants rights. HOW ABOUT OUR RIGHTS? I think all Iraq'a WMD's are hidden in Mexico, let's light it up
HEE HEE! I want in on this discussion too. I just want to throw this out there. I think there are probablly countrys out there where they know if you cross that border illegally, were gonna light you up, one way or another. Claymores, snipers, whatever. Sure The United States are the land of oppurtunity, but that should be for its residence, not for people who want to come here to work our system.
I bet if we started lighting up peeps who cross the border illegally the message would become very clear very soon. Couldnt the goverment go as far as to say that illegal border crossers could be a terrorist threat? Or Espeonige or something? Im sure in the middle east or russia they would shoot you on the spot...
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3270573
If you have a problem where you live, just move. Like I said before, if we send all the illegals back to mexico, why should we be able to stay here? This isn't our country. Our ancestors did the samething many years ago but the indians didn't send us back. This country was Never ours, never will be. The indians were here before us (germans, english, russias, etc..). Would it be right for the indians to deport us back to our home country. Let's ask them. Oh yeah, I forgot we took the land from them and gave them reservations.

And the Indians stole land from each other. So what? Go back through history across the planet. it's been going on since the beginng of recorded history.
The current government in control of this land has laws, the laws must be inforced.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by Handbanana
http:///forum/post/3270584
HEE HEE! I want in on this discussion too. I just want to throw this out there. I think there are probablly countrys out there where they know if you cross that border illegally, were gonna light you up, one way or another. Claymores, snipers, whatever. Sure The United States are the land of oppurtunity, but that should be for its residence, not for people who want to come here to work our system.
I bet if we started lighting up peeps who cross the border illegally the message would become very clear very soon. Couldnt the goverment go as far as to say that illegal border crossers could be a terrorist threat? Or Espeonige or something? Im sure in the middle east or russia they would shoot you on the spot...
I think it's come to the point where you have to use deadly force on the border. Sad to because I actually have a lot of respect for those who come here to earn enough to support their family back home. That doesn't change the fact that we need to make them come here the right way but we can't allow the gangs and drug runners and con artists flood across in the name of letting the honest, hard working ones come in.
 

handbanana

Member
Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3270573
If you have a problem where you live, just move. Like I said before, if we send all the illegals back to mexico, why should we be able to stay here? This isn't our country. Our ancestors did the samething many years ago but the indians didn't send us back. This country was Never ours, never will be. The indians were here before us (germans, english, russias, etc..). Would it be right for the indians to deport us back to our home country. Let's ask them. Oh yeah, I forgot we took the land from them and gave them reservations.

Were talking about now. not then. This is our country now. We cant go back and say "Oh s#it, we took this country from you, have it back. The illegals are not trying to get their country back, theyre Working our system. getting free health care and sending a lot of us currency back to mexico to their famileys. I've met and talked to many Illegal immegrants. I've even met a few that have been deported multiple times, The money is easy here and more in abundance. Unless you live here legally.
 
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