An exchange I had with Rush Limbaugh...

reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bs21
http:///forum/post/2583607
still abusing them. He talks down to other drug users while at the same time abusing himself. maybe hes self hating or just a hypocrit.

I really couldn't tell you. It has been so long since I have listened to limbaugh for more than maybe 20 minutes once in a while I really can't say how he has talked about others with drug issues. People who let the beast control their life are really no different be they smoking crack or using high end scrips. Don't really care, I mostly listened to him for intertainment value anyway.
The people who get hooked on scrips only get a break in so far as they didn't set out to do something wrong/illegal. Someone like Rush had every chance to have his issue deal with privatly and didn't. Gotta wonder about that. Having never been addicted to drugs or such I can't relate.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bs21
http:///forum/post/2583804
What politician doesn't pay or promise a certain agenda to superdelegates not to mention just the people that give them money for campaigns. No politician in this country is really concerned with the people. they do enough to get re-elected and then do the most for the people giving them money.

Ahhh but it is Obo that portrays himself as being above it all when he is not. He is no different than anyone else.
The thing about Limbaugh or any other celebrety addict is they (or at least the news of their addictions) can make it a lot easier for others to ask for the help they need. Not that it was what they set out to do but in a lot of cases (Betty Ford, Eric Clapton) they can make a real difference. Love him or hate him lets hope Limbaugh does the same thing once he has his stuff together.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2584957
Ahhh but it is Obo that portrays himself as being above it all when he is not. He is no different than anyone else.
The thing about Limbaugh or any other celebrety addict is they (or at least the news of their addictions) can make it a lot easier for others to ask for the help they need. Not that it was what they set out to do but in a lot of cases (Betty Ford, Eric Clapton) they can make a real difference. Love him or hate him lets hope Limbaugh does the same thing once he has his stuff together.
You're talking about something that happened 3 years ago if I remember right. completed rehab, and has said he is clean ever since. There is no evidence to the contrary. That would be act together I think.
 
fats71

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Originally Posted by WangoTango
http:///forum/post/2578272
You and the rest of America really.
I don't think the economy is that bad, it's not great, but it's not bad. A recession is a 6 month or more period of falling GDP. Ours has gone up .6% so I don't think we're experiencing one. If we were there would be far less construction and fewer people being hired. And as far as unemployment it's about 5.2%, and anywhere between 4-6% is normal.
-Justin
It can not be that bad my buddy in Florida is making around 60k a year selling two thousand dollar Kirby vacs door to door.. I dunno too many poor people dumping out 2k for a vac.
Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2581162
I don't think anyone who is independent would listen to Rush. NPR, BBC, so many actual independent choices one could listen to.
But, when I read your post, it makes me think of this forum. It is entertaining for a bit, a way to waste time at work. I think a lot of the posters here are staged. How many times can a person be insulted and yet they still come back and post more? Really, the OP started a thread that was funny, and it turned into 3 pages of personal attacks on him. Why would a real person keep posting?
No one even mentioned that fact that Rush is so stoned he can't even make up the "entertainment"!
I am saying this in all honesty... I think it is appalling that you waste someones time and money and as I wish no harm to you or a loss of your position I ask that you would seriously think about what you could be doing to better someones life instead of "wasting our money"
Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2582740
Actually, he is too busy looking at my chest to care about my attitude. Men!

But, I do like to talk politics with our Docs. These guys really seem to care about people. I know some go to med school 'cause they think they are going to make lots of money, but most of the men and women I know personally aren't that way. They really seem to like people. Not like the ones who choose the career to make big bucks. They get all bitter and mean 'cause they really don't like to have to care about people. It's sad to watch them get old, hating their life.
But the ones who got into medicine because they wanted to help people seem to get happier as they age. One of our surgeons took a leave to help Doctors Without Borders, and another group went for 2 weeks. Another surgeon ran for Congress. Weird thing, though. It's only the progressive Docs who seem happy......
*************************************** {Let's avoid personal attacks. 1Journeyman}My friend Suzy whom runs HCA seems to wanna know where you work. She has no tolerance for slackers... She is at our home on a small vacay hanging out with the family and wonders if you actually work in a hospital.
 
bs21

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2584957
Ahhh but it is Obo that portrays himself as being above it all when he is not. He is no different than anyone else.

You are probably right but I never said he was above everyone else. I was under the impression that the majority of Obama's funding has come from donations from voters/people not corporations and the like but I have no proof of that since I am not his accountant. So there is always the possibility that he has people with an agenda funding him. I don't know? My above point though was that in a world of Globalization Mcain seems to be the one lagging behind when it comes to foreign relations. More of the Same from....
 
bs21

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stdreb27;2584908 said:
If we have a workable solution. Why would we not want to share it? QUOTE]
There is the difference though. Its like christianity the word is out there and you have the option to follow and believe or not. While its not that simple and neither is democracy the point is We should spread the message and truly lead by example. More times than not I think we are to forceful of our ways and step on the toes of other cultures. Cultures that have acted a certain way before America even existed which makes change that much more difficult. Its no wonder people get angry with us. We should be easing them into it from behind the scenes not invading and forcing it down their throat.
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stdreb27

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bs21;2585266 said:
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2584908
If we have a workable solution. Why would we not want to share it? QUOTE]
There is the difference though. Its like christianity the word is out there and you have the option to follow and believe or not. While its not that simple and neither is democracy the point is We should spread the message and truly lead by example. More times than not I think we are to forceful of our ways and step on the toes of other cultures. Cultures that have acted a certain way before America even existed which makes change that much more difficult. Its no wonder people get angry with us. We should be easing them into it from behind the scenes not invading and forcing it down their throat.
If we were "forcing it down their throats" why would they have had so many participate in the system in the face of life threatening dangers?
Has the framework not been proven to work before? Most european countries have our framework, with an executive and legislative branch. (we destroyed europe during WWII.) South Korea, japan, These were deeply religious societies, whose used our framework and molded it to fit their own needs. Turkey is doing ok using our concept of government. They have a massive muslim population.
Ever think that maybe they stepped on our toes? We were minding our own business and look what happened.
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reefraff

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2585041
You're talking about something that happened 3 years ago if I remember right. completed rehab, and has said he is clean ever since. There is no evidence to the contrary. That would be act together I think.
I figure he probably has but before lending your name to a cause like that you would probably want to make darn sure you had no doubt.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bs21
http:///forum/post/2585255
You are probably right but I never said he was above everyone else. I was under the impression that the majority of Obama's funding has come from donations from voters/people not corporations and the like but I have no proof of that since I am not his accountant. So there is always the possibility that he has people with an agenda funding him. I don't know? My above point though was that in a world of Globalization Mcain seems to be the one lagging behind when it comes to foreign relations. More of the Same from....
It has been illegal for corporations to donate to political campaigns for years.
How do you see McCain behind in foreign relations?
 
fats71

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Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2585578
Wow. Someone takes this crap so seriously he is going to try to get me fired......
I do not wish you to lose your job I do however think you might want to think about actually working at "WORK"
 
oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2585578
Wow. Someone takes this crap so seriously he is going to try to get me fired......
Your attitude about the internet and work comes across as a "slacker". No one wants slackers on their payroll. I KNOW there is plenty of work to go around, and even if you are not at a code, there are meds to pass vitals to chart rooms to clean etc.
 
aninafish

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I didn't want to get involved but no one has said( at least I don't think they have) that all of the government and economy problems are caused by us.
There I said it!
Our gas prices are high because Americans like big gas guzzling cars, trucks and SUV's that we don't need. Also we will pay these high prices, complain about them, and still buy them.
Our taxes are high because we want all these spiffy extras the other countries don't have. Sure South Africa has very low taxes. but their roads suck and you have to pay enormous amounts if you want you child to go to school. There is also the government aid. I do my best not to judge but I can't help but think it is wrong that I have no kids as I cannot afford them yet a large amount of my money goes to paying for other people children.
Housing! Yes people are getting foreclosed on.

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Co's didn't verify as much as they should. I want to know at what time did major corporations get forced to become more responsible for each persons financial state then the person themselves? I have never been anywhere where the clerk has told me "I'm sorry, I can't sell you this. You really can't afford it." Thats not how business is done. Oh and there is that whole law against it. People bought houses they could not afford and now the banks and government are taking the hit for it. I can't see that as fair.
Jobs are leaving the US because that is what is best for their business. Again, corporations cannot be held to a moral code. They want to go where wages are lower. Americans wont accept lower wages because we like stuff. The person with the biggest house and car win. We have given these corporations no choice but to leave. Other countries will provide a more loyal workforce, lower wages, few benefits and more cooperation. We wave pieces of papers saying we can do the work where as other countries just do it.
If we are in a recession it is because our own greed and acceptance of prices are putting us there. The government is not supposed to have morals anymore so they can't really help us. Politicians can claim "change" but until they can change us this downward spiral will continue.
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by ANinaFish
http:///forum/post/2586152
I didn't want to get involved but no one has said( at least I don't think they have) that all of the government and economy problems are caused by us.
There I said it!
Our gas prices are high because Americans like big gas guzzling cars, trucks and SUV's that we don't need. Also we will pay these high prices, complain about them, and still buy them.
Our taxes are high because we want all these spiffy extras the other countries don't have. Sure South Africa has very low taxes. but their roads suck and you have to pay enormous amounts if you want you child to go to school. There is also the government aid. I do my best not to judge but I can't help but think it is wrong that I have no kids as I cannot afford them yet a large amount of my money goes to paying for other people children.
Housing! Yes people are getting foreclosed on.

[hr]
Co's didn't verify as much as they should. I want to know at what time did major corporations get forced to become more responsible for each persons financial state then the person themselves? I have never been anywhere where the clerk has told me "I'm sorry, I can't sell you this. You really can't afford it." Thats not how business is done. Oh and there is that whole law against it. People bought houses they could not afford and now the banks and government are taking the hit for it. I can't see that as fair.
Jobs are leaving the US because that is what is best for their business. Again, corporations cannot be held to a moral code. They want to go where wages are lower. Americans wont accept lower wages because we like stuff. The person with the biggest house and car win. We have given these corporations no choice but to leave. Other countries will provide a more loyal workforce, lower wages, few benefits and more cooperation. We wave pieces of papers saying we can do the work where as other countries just do it.
If we are in a recession it is because our own greed and acceptance of prices are putting us there. The government is not supposed to have morals anymore so they can't really help us. Politicians can claim "change" but until they can change us this downward spiral will continue.
Great points.
As Bang Guy pointed out, we used to have a serious issue with mort-gage spammers on the fourms, so the word got added to the spam filter.
 
fats71

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Originally Posted by ANinaFish
http:///forum/post/2586152
I didn't want to get involved but no one has said( at least I don't think they have) that all of the government and economy problems are caused by us.
There I said it!
Our gas prices are high because Americans like big gas guzzling cars, trucks and SUV's that we don't need. Also we will pay these high prices, complain about them, and still buy them.
Our taxes are high because we want all these spiffy extras the other countries don't have. Sure South Africa has very low taxes. but their roads suck and you have to pay enormous amounts if you want you child to go to school. There is also the government aid. I do my best not to judge but I can't help but think it is wrong that I have no kids as I cannot afford them yet a large amount of my money goes to paying for other people children.
Housing! Yes people are getting foreclosed on.

[hr]
Co's didn't verify as much as they should. I want to know at what time did major corporations get forced to become more responsible for each persons financial state then the person themselves? I have never been anywhere where the clerk has told me "I'm sorry, I can't sell you this. You really can't afford it." Thats not how business is done. Oh and there is that whole law against it. People bought houses they could not afford and now the banks and government are taking the hit for it. I can't see that as fair.
Jobs are leaving the US because that is what is best for their business. Again, corporations cannot be held to a moral code. They want to go where wages are lower. Americans wont accept lower wages because we like stuff. The person with the biggest house and car win. We have given these corporations no choice but to leave. Other countries will provide a more loyal workforce, lower wages, few benefits and more cooperation. We wave pieces of papers saying we can do the work where as other countries just do it.
If we are in a recession it is because our own greed and acceptance of prices are putting us there. The government is not supposed to have morals anymore so they can't really help us. Politicians can claim "change" but until they can change us this downward spiral will continue.

A+++++ Standing ovation NINA FOR PRES 08 !! You have my vote if you hurry up and frag some of that stuff I'm a busy bee you know.
 
stdreb27

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For all you the world is over recession people, the prelim data is in. Real GDP growth for 08 is up 0.6%, so nationally there is no recession.
 
ophiura

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Hmmm, I see "hiring" signs around here a lot. Problem is, most people with "degrees" won't take them.
Here is my story. In graduate school, I worked in hospitality...airports, buses, tours...standing outside for 12+ hours a day with a smile on my face.
When I moved to Houston I had a bachelors in biology and a master's in biology. I took a job at an LFS for $6.50 an hour. Worked there 15 months and made $11 when I left. Then worked at a public aquarium for $10.50 an hour.
Then I got a job at my current company, which is in a completely different field than my degrees. I kept learning and working hard. But I learned a lot at those jobs, how to manage people and customers, how to do the crap jobs and learn what motivates people and more importantly how you could shut them down in an instant. I would strongly encourage people to consider those positions an opportunity rather than "beneath" you.
I didn't believe I was entitled to anything other than perhaps a chance to prove myself. And each time I did, because I had too - they didn't think highly of those degrees, and in fact had a lot of perceptions based on experiences with such highly educated people.
So in my current company I have been promoted through management about one step ever 14 months. I still probably don't get paid what, according to some, I "should" be paid with all those degrees. But I am not entitled to anything. I work hard. I have been rewarded.
But there are loads of folks out there with PhDs...and I was close to being one of them, who are working away at gift stores and hourly jobs. Their degrees have bought them nothing, in part because they did not choose wisely (nor did I, but I did not work under the illusion/delusion that I would ever use that marine biology education). They are entitled to nothing, IMO. Just like I am not entitled to anything.
 
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