And this is why Fox Business shouldn't be covering Science stories.

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/80#post_3536978
Yes, but all the other energy still has to go somewhere, and that is the energy that is trapped by the CO².
CO2 absorbs infrared, visible light passes through it.

 

[2quills]

Everybody is a commedian these days. :laughing:

 

[mohawkninja]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3536979
CO2 absorbs infrared, visible light passes through it.
Yeah, and visible light has energy. That energy is trapped.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3536987
Yeah, and visible light has energy. That energy is trapped.
Light passing through an object precludes the possibility of it's energy being trapped in it.Otherwise it wouldn't "Pass through" because there would be no energy left to drive it. Read how the greenhouse effect works.

 

[bang guy]

LOL

 

[mohawkninja]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537001
Light passing through an object precludes the possibility of it's energy being trapped in it.Otherwise it wouldn't "Pass through" because there would be no energy left to drive it. Read how the greenhouse effect works.
So you are saying that light from the sun that goes into our homes has no energy left and doesn't heat our homes?? That's ridiculous. Maybe it should be you doing the reading.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537006
So you are saying that light from the sun that goes into our homes has no energy left and doesn't heat our homes?? That's ridiculous. Maybe it should be you doing the reading.

"Originally Posted by mohawkninja
Yes, but all the other energy still has to go somewhere, and that is the energy that is trapped by the CO². "

As I stated in response to this post visible light is not trapped by CO2, it passes through and it absorbed or reflected by objects it strikes. .

 

[mohawkninja]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537014

"Originally Posted by mohawkninja
Yes, but all the other energy still has to go somewhere, and that is the energy that is trapped by the CO². "

As I stated in response to this post visible light is not trapped by CO2, it passes through and it absorbed or reflected by objects it strikes. .
I didn't mean that it was trapped in the CO2. It is trapped in the atmosphere once it reflects back up.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537072
I didn't mean that it was trapped in the CO2. It is trapped in the atmosphere once it reflects back up.
You are even further into the weeds now. Greenhouse gases (which are part of the atmosphere) absorb infrared period, coming or going. It just doesn't absorb it all, coming or going.

 

[mohawkninja]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537073
You are even further into the weeds now. Greenhouse gases (which are part of the atmosphere) absorb infrared period, coming or going. It just doesn't absorb it all, coming or going.
Where did I say infrared? Visible light has energy too.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537082
Where did I say infrared? Visible light has energy too.
Visible light passes through CO2. So when light comes from the sun, incoming infrared is being absorbed by CO2 instead of reaching the surface. Visible light passes through to the surface.

 

[2quills]

Visible light passes through CO2. So when light comes from the sun, incoming infrared is being absorbed by CO2 instead of reaching the surface. Visible light passes through to the surface.
Prove it! :na-na:

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537084
Prove it!

Many chemical compounds present in Earth's atmosphere behave as 'greenhouse gases'. These are gases which allow direct sunlight (relative shortwave energy) to reach the Earth's surface unimpeded. As the shortwave energy (that in the visible and ultraviolet portion of the spectra) heats the surface, longer-wave (infrared) energy (heat) is reradiated to the atmosphere. Greenhouse gases absorb this energy, thereby allowing less heat to escape back to space, and 'trapping' it in the lower atmosphere.


http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/greenhouse-gases.php

But what would I know about light LOL! I still have people tracking me down to answer T5 questions.

 

[2quills]

Impossible! They must have faked the results.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537087
Impossible! They must have faked the results.
Fake as Bill Clinton's tears

 

[2quills]

Something in his eye. Those were real tears.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537090
Something in his eye. Those were real tears.

Mace will do that to a person.

 

[mohawkninja]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537083
Visible light passes through CO2. So when light comes from the sun, incoming infrared is being absorbed by CO2 instead of reaching the surface. Visible light passes through to the surface.
Yes. That Visible Light has energy that is reflected by the surface and trapped due to the greenhouse effect.

 

[2quills]

We all on the same page now?

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/396925/and-this-is-why-fox-business-shouldnt-be-covering-science-stories/100#post_3537095
Yes. That Visible Light has energy that is reflected by the surface and trapped due to the greenhouse effect.
NO, Visible light that gets reflected will simply pass back though the CO2 JUST LIKE IT DID TO REACH THE SURFACE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Visible light that is absorbed by a surface will warm it which causes it to radiate out to the atmosphere where it is absorbed by greenhouse gases, JUST LIKE THE INCOMING INFRARED FROM THE SUN.