call me exited, but...

azfishgal

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Originally Posted by MonaLisa
Since this is my thread, I guess I can post a picture of Jonah...
Lisa :happyfish
I'd say he's a keeper! What a cutie! My sister is pregnant (finally) and is due in August. My two girls are thrilled they are FINALLY going to have a cousin. They will find out the --- this Friday!
 

monalisa

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Checked the sh tank tonight...lots of bristle worms and bugs. Are bristle worms ok in a sh tank?
Lisa :happyfish
 

bronco300

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bristle worms can be...ok...for normal sized seahorses if they are small worms they should be fine...its when the seahorses are looking for food that it can cause a problem if they get one of those instead of the actual pods.
 

monalisa

Active Member
Originally Posted by Bronco300
bristle worms can be...ok...for normal sized seahorses if they are small worms they should be fine...its when the seahorses are looking for food that it can cause a problem if they get one of those instead of the actual pods.

I wonder if I should get something in there when the tank is ready that will help get rid of the bristles? Any suggestions?
Thanks!!
Lisa :happyfish
 

anubisxero

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Originally Posted by MonaLisa
I wonder if I should get something in there when the tank is ready that will help get rid of the bristles? Any suggestions?
Thanks!!
Lisa :happyfish
A worm hunter ehh? hmmm..I can't think of anything off the top of my head. I know various wrasses eat crustaceans and worms including your neighbord fan worms and feather dusters. I'll do some research. Oh i know arrow crabs like to chomp on bristles.
 

monalisa

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Originally Posted by Anubisxero
A worm hunter ehh? hmmm..I can't think of anything off the top of my head. I know various wrasses eat crustaceans and worms including your neighbord fan worms and feather dusters. I'll do some research. Oh i know arrow crabs like to chomp on bristles.
Yeah, I was hoping to come up with something in the way of cleaning crew to help mop those things out of there. I was originally thinking of going with just a variety of snails for that tank, but it looks like I may need to rethink that, hmmmm...
Lisa :happyfish
 

anubisxero

Member
Originally Posted by MonaLisa
Yeah, I was hoping to come up with something in the way of cleaning crew to help mop those things out of there. I was originally thinking of going with just a variety of snails for that tank, but it looks like I may need to rethink that, hmmmm...
Lisa :happyfish
well in all honesty if you can stand it, the arrow crab will definitely make short work of bristleworms. And the cool thing about them, is they're pretty large and easy to remove when you're done with him. Unless you keep it, but I have no idea of how they'd be with seahorses.
here's a bit i read up on:
Bristleworm Predators
There are several predators that can be employed to help prevent bristleworms from overtaking a tank. However, controlling the proliferation of these pests is much easier than eliminating an already existing population.
The most commonly used means of biological control are the arrow crab (Stenorhynchus seticornis) and the coral banded shrimp (Stenopus hispidus). These crustaceans have been known to grab bristleworms with their claws and tear them into bite-size pieces. Unfortunately, they only eat the occasional polychaete.
There are certain fish species that do a more effective job at bristleworm eradication. For example, many wrasses of the genus Halichoeres readily dine on them. One of my favorite bristleworm predators is the tailspot wrasse (H. melanurus). There are other polyphagous (having a varied diet) wrasses from other genera that eat them, including the bird wrasse (Gomphosus varius), the snotty Maori wrasse (Cheilinus oxycephalus) and the sunset wrasse (Thalassoma lutescens).
There are many dottybacks that will eat bristleworms as well. These include Springer's dottyback (Pseudochromis springeri), the neon Arabian dottyback (P. aldabraensis) and the sunrise dottyback (P. flavivertex).
Some sand perches (Pinguipedidae) also love to eat these worms. For example, the speckled sand perch (Parapercis hexophttalma) and the cylindrical sand perch (P. cylindrica) are known to dine on them. However, one of the most popular sand perches in the aquarium trade, the lyretail sand perch (P. schuinslandi), feeds mainly on zooplankton, not polychaete worms.
Here's an idea for retailers. Place a polychaete-eating sand perch in each of your rock tanks to help reduce worm numbers on the rock before you sell it to your customers.
Goatfishes, grunts, hawkfishes, sleeper gobies, dragonets and triggerfishes occasionally feed on these noxious worms as well. One drawback to keeping most of these fish in the reef aquarium is that they will eat desirable worms (e.g., fan worms, Christmas tree worms), and sometimes other inverterbates (e.g., crustaceans).
One final note. Small polychaete worms can be very beneficial in the reef aquarium. They are great scavengers, ingesting uneaten foods and feces, and their burrowing activities help to aerate the sand or crushed coral substrate.
 

monalisa

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Originally Posted by Anubisxero
well in all honesty if you can stand it, the arrow crab will definitely make short work of bristleworms. And the cool thing about them, is they're pretty large and easy to remove when you're done with him. Unless you keep it, but I have no idea of how they'd be with seahorses.
here's a bit i read up on:
Bristleworm Predators
There are several predators that can be employed to help prevent bristleworms from overtaking a tank. However, controlling the proliferation of these pests is much easier than eliminating an already existing population.
The most commonly used means of biological control are the arrow crab (Stenorhynchus seticornis) and the coral banded shrimp (Stenopus hispidus). These crustaceans have been known to grab bristleworms with their claws and tear them into bite-size pieces. Unfortunately, they only eat the occasional polychaete.
There are certain fish species that do a more effective job at bristleworm eradication. For example, many wrasses of the genus Halichoeres readily dine on them. One of my favorite bristleworm predators is the tailspot wrasse (H. melanurus). There are other polyphagous (having a varied diet) wrasses from other genera that eat them, including the bird wrasse (Gomphosus varius), the snotty Maori wrasse (Cheilinus oxycephalus) and the sunset wrasse (Thalassoma lutescens).
There are many dottybacks that will eat bristleworms as well. These include Springer's dottyback (Pseudochromis springeri), the neon Arabian dottyback (P. aldabraensis) and the sunrise dottyback (P. flavivertex).
Some sand perches (Pinguipedidae) also love to eat these worms. For example, the speckled sand perch (Parapercis hexophttalma) and the cylindrical sand perch (P. cylindrica) are known to dine on them. However, one of the most popular sand perches in the aquarium trade, the lyretail sand perch (P. schuinslandi), feeds mainly on zooplankton, not polychaete worms.
Here's an idea for retailers. Place a polychaete-eating sand perch in each of your rock tanks to help reduce worm numbers on the rock before you sell it to your customers.
Goatfishes, grunts, hawkfishes, sleeper gobies, dragonets and triggerfishes occasionally feed on these noxious worms as well. One drawback to keeping most of these fish in the reef aquarium is that they will eat desirable worms (e.g., fan worms, Christmas tree worms), and sometimes other inverterbates (e.g., crustaceans).
One final note. Small polychaete worms can be very beneficial in the reef aquarium. They are great scavengers, ingesting uneaten foods and feces, and their burrowing activities help to aerate the sand or crushed coral substrate.
Hmmm, I happen to have a sand perch in my reef now. Maybe he could go into the sh tank for a while, along with my cb shrimp...just to clean up a bit.
Great find Jason!! Thanks for the info.
Lisa :happyfish
 

anubisxero

Member
Originally Posted by MonaLisa
Hmmm, I happen to have a sand perch in my reef now. Maybe he could go into the sh tank for a while, along with my cb shrimp...just to clean up a bit.
Great find Jason!! Thanks for the info.
Lisa :happyfish
Sweeeet. Looks like i'm Mr. Helpful lately. Again, glad to be of service.

Jason
 

monalisa

Active Member
Originally Posted by Anubisxero
Sweeeet. Looks like i'm Mr. Helpful lately. Again, glad to be of service.

Jason
You bet, Jason. Muy agradecida.
So, not much going on in my tanks today. Tomorrow I will be doing some testing in the sh tank and setting up water for a water change in the reef...gotta go and get water to set up. The diatoms are blooming like crazy in the sh tank...can't wait to get some critters to take care of that. Other than that...busy, busy, busy...but loving it.
Lisa :happyfish
 

anubisxero

Member
Originally Posted by MonaLisa
You bet, Jason. Muy agradecida.
So, not much going on in my tanks today. Tomorrow I will be doing some testing in the sh tank and setting up water for a water change in the reef...gotta go and get water to set up. The diatoms are blooming like crazy in the sh tank...can't wait to get some critters to take care of that. Other than that...busy, busy, busy...but loving it.
Lisa :happyfish
De nada. Sounds good. How's the wee one? I finally got my chaeto, well the first batch I got was dead. This batch very alive. Sadly no critters, but that's okay.
Jason.
 

monalisa

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Originally Posted by Anubisxero
De nada. Sounds good. How's the wee one? I finally got my chaeto, well the first batch I got was dead. This batch very alive. Sadly no critters, but that's okay.
Jason.
Hi Jason,
Jonah is absolutely perfect!! What else can I say? I got to babysit for the first time tonight, Beth and Tyler went to dinner and a movie...I soaked that up!! And they really appreciated the time out.
Thanks again SO much for checking out that site for me...you can't believe what a relief it is for me to know that it's working!! Yay!!
I've actually had chaeto algea in my 37gal reef and it kinda went bad on me. I just had it in there loose, in the tank. I was thinking of getting one of those cheapo soap dishes from Wal Mart and putting suction cups on it, stick a wad of chaeto in there for the sh tank. IDK, I think that might just work!! I'm going to give it a try.
I think I may be getting close to clean up crew time in the sh tank...tests tomorrow again.
Lisa :happyfish
 

anubisxero

Member
Originally Posted by MonaLisa
Hi Jason,
Jonah is absolutely perfect!! What else can I say? I got to babysit for the first time tonight, Beth and Tyler went to dinner and a movie...I soaked that up!! And they really appreciated the time out.
Thanks again SO much for checking out that site for me...you can't believe what a relief it is for me to know that it's working!! Yay!!
I've actually had chaeto algea in my 37gal reef and it kinda went bad on me. I just had it in there loose, in the tank. I was thinking of getting one of those cheapo soap dishes from Wal Mart and putting suction cups on it, stick a wad of chaeto in there for the sh tank. IDK, I think that might just work!! I'm going to give it a try.
I think I may be getting close to clean up crew time in the sh tank...tests tomorrow again.
Lisa :happyfish
That's great! Really cute. I remember after Gabrielle was born we couldn't wait to go out. I think it was like the next day after we came home from the hospital. Horrible I know. Well I have those soapdish things, the large and small. They really do work and come with the suction cups. I have the chaeto in my fuge for now so it's free floating which really means sitting at the bottom, but it's only a few inches from my pc lighting. I would've had it in the dish under the halides, but the tank is cluttered enough as is. I'm just having a tough time getting the pods to start bangin' each other and make me some babies. frustrating. :mad:
Jason
 

monalisa

Active Member
Originally Posted by Anubisxero
That's great! Really cute. I remember after Gabrielle was born we couldn't wait to go out. I think it was like the next day after we came home from the hospital. Horrible I know. Well I have those soapdish things, the large and small. They really do work and come with the suction cups. I have the chaeto in my fuge for now so it's free floating which really means sitting at the bottom, but it's only a few inches from my pc lighting. I would've had it in the dish under the halides, but the tank is cluttered enough as is. I'm just having a tough time getting the pods to start bangin' each other and make me some babies. frustrating. :mad:
Jason
Hmmm, I was pretty much thinking that I'd just put those dishes in my dt's (no refuge or sump going on here). I'm pretty sure that I can do it pretty discretely (I hope).
What do you all have in your tank? Could it be that your livestock is already taking things out before they get "started" :hilarious ? I'm pretty sure that's what'll happen in my reef, what with Sr. Mary in there now (oh, and by the way...she's been a GREAT addition!!).
I think that I'm going to try it out in both tanks and kind of experiment to see what happens.
Lisa :happyfish
 

anubisxero

Member
Originally Posted by MonaLisa
Hmmm, I was pretty much thinking that I'd just put those dishes in my dt's (no refuge or sump going on here). I'm pretty sure that I can do it pretty discretely (I hope).
What do you all have in your tank? Could it be that your livestock is already taking things out before they get "started" :hilarious ? I'm pretty sure that's what'll happen in my reef, what with Sr. Mary in there now (oh, and by the way...she's been a GREAT addition!!).
I think that I'm going to try it out in both tanks and kind of experiment to see what happens.
Lisa :happyfish
oh well. I know i've got things that'll eat the pods. Yellowhead sleeper goby and my Gramma Loreto for sure. She eats everything. Dead or alive, if it moves or floats by, it goes in her mouth. Eat first, ask questions later. Even with some of my larger bristleworms. She eats em and like 5 seconds later goes *BLEH* spits em back out. It's funny. Ah well. I'm just hoping with the recent addition of the fuge and the chaeto and some rubble rock, they'll have a home to call their own and get to makin' bacon!!
Jason.
 

monalisa

Active Member
Originally Posted by Anubisxero
oh well. I know i've got things that'll eat the pods. Yellowhead sleeper goby and my Gramma Loreto for sure. She eats everything. Dead or alive, if it moves or floats by, it goes in her mouth. Eat first, ask questions later. Even with some of my larger bristleworms. She eats em and like 5 seconds later goes *BLEH* spits em back out. It's funny. Ah well. I'm just hoping with the recent addition of the fuge and the chaeto and some rubble rock, they'll have a home to call their own and get to makin' bacon!!
Jason.
It was my understanding though that even the "soapdish" thing would give them a place to "make bacon". Hope so...
Post a pic of your tank here!! I'd love to see it.
Lisa :happyfish
 

anubisxero

Member
Originally Posted by MonaLisa
It was my understanding though that even the "soapdish" thing would give them a place to "make bacon". Hope so...
Lisa :happyfish
Yes. The soapdish keeps the chaeto up top near the light and from floating all around the DT so the pods just chill out in there and come and go when they please without being bashed about the tank like little lost travellers.
Jason.
 

monalisa

Active Member
Originally Posted by Anubisxero
Yes. The soapdish keeps the chaeto up top near the light and from floating all around the DT so the pods just chill out in there and come and go when they please without being bashed about the tank like little lost travellers.
Jason.

Ummmm, you posted whilst I was...going potty...I came back and edited
. Post a pic of your tank here. I'd really like to see it.
Lisa :happyfish
 

anubisxero

Member
Originally Posted by MonaLisa
Ummmm, you posted whilst I was...going potty...I came back and edited
. Post a pic of your tank here. I'd really like to see it.
Lisa :happyfish
OOps. Most definitely I will get some new pictures tomorrow. This reminds me to charge the camera. I have no pictures of the entire tank. Just of the various inhabitants. The fish. The anemone. Corals. etc. I've been wanting to take a full shot but was battling the cyano and well I just couldn't have a picture of that.
Jason.
 
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