Concealed Carry

[florida joe]

Originally Posted by DeltaBlack22
I know this thread is completly off topic but thanks to those of you that gave me some input on Springfields XD line. Honestly I expected no response off of a salt water fish board and was shocked at how this thread took off. Yes in the wrong direction but at least here and there some on topic points were brought up and I appreciate it...
Between the positive feedback I have gotten of this board and countless positive reports from gun threads I have decided to go with the XD-9 Subcompact. I'll even keep you guys posted on how the wife handles the weapon. Of course we are still waiting for the handgun permits to pass through the US Supreme Courts so it may be some time before I can even lay my hands on it...

NIce gun

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by thirty5
TAZER! i cant wait till i can carry on at work. They are still not allowed in NJ. I think we are the last state to adopt them.... Just hope i dont have to get hit with it. YES i dont want to feel the pain!
Just wait after some "criminal" dies from a tazer you'll have some "human rights" activist saying that they are dangerous and shouldn't be used. The police were brutal by shooting him and they should be taken out of the hands of law enforcement. Never mind the alternative is shooting the guy with a real gun. The morons, these people just don't make sense.
I don't know a whole lot about guns, but I can't wait to get my permit. I used to work at a radioshack in a rural town it would crack me up I'd get these 70 year old ladies writing a check and handing me their handgun liscense for an ID. Now that is what I'm talking about.
It just doesn't make sense for people not to want law biding citizens to not own or carry a weapon. If the criminal wants one he is going to get one. And they aren't going to bother with the paperwork.
My cuz is force recon, he had both his cars stolen in one day, and suspected they were going for the house, since his cars were recovered quickly without any damage, but his personal information was taken. So he sent the kids and the mom on base. And staked out his apartment, that night when the criminals hit his house he was ready. Because honestly what are the cops going to do? They are too strapped chasing other things then to stake out his house. He took care of the problem and those guy are now in prison, because he had the skills as well as the weapons to address the problem.
Seriously who are you going to depend on besides yourself? The police won't be able to respond in time to address an instant threat.

 

[jovial]

Originally Posted by nietzsche
yeah criminals might also go after people they think are weak, when you said that people go after people with attitudes like me, first of all, how does a criminal know what my attitude is? second of all what if im sitting here typing and im a 5'11'' mexican with tats all over my body and weigh a lean 210 lbs?? you think a criminal will come after me? im sorry, but my attitude has gone with me everywhere and ive never been mugged. even across the border walking in reynosa where crime has risen because of drug trafficking. who knows why? ive been to places where its bad, i live close to drug dealers, ive probably stood next to someone who has murdered someone and never knew, here its likely. i still live my life the same and nothing has happened to me even when being confronted by people who want to be tough men and fight. i havent seen anything happen to anyone around me yet, i only hear things happening to others, and most of the time people are involved in things they should have never been involved with in the first place. there have been times where a brand new cadillac escalade with 24" chrome rims with limo tinted windows has parked out infront of my house and stayed there. what happened? someone just got lost and needed to use the phone so they pulled over in our driveway. no big thing.
thats great that those places have worked out, but im sorry, i just dont believe i have to carry any weapons on me or in my house and my family members believe the same, and so does my future wife.
Thats because they were 24" wheels. If they were 25" wheels everything would have been different.
Sounds like your a lucky person.

 

[scorpiojkd]

Originally Posted by thirty5
TAZER! i cant wait till i can carry on at work. They are still not allowed in NJ. I think we are the last state to adopt them.... Just hope i dont have to get hit with it. YES i dont want to feel the pain!

The Taser is a great tool. The ride is not that bad. I've done it three times now for training purposes. Just having it on the belt has stopped quite a few people from being stupid.

 

[thirty5]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
Just wait after some "criminal" dies from a tazer you'll have some "human rights" activist saying that they are dangerous and shouldn't be used. The police were brutal by shooting him and they should be taken out of the hands of law enforcement. Never mind the alternative is shooting the guy with a real gun. The morons, these people just don't make sense.
I don't know a whole lot about guns, but I can't wait to get my permit. I used to work at a radioshack in a rural town it would crack me up I'd get these 70 year old ladies writing a check and handing me their handgun liscense for an ID. Now that is what I'm talking about.
It just doesn't make sense for people not to want law biding citizens to not own or carry a weapon. If the criminal wants one he is going to get one. And they aren't going to bother with the paperwork.
My cuz is force recon, he had both his cars stolen in one day, and suspected they were going for the house, since his cars were recovered quickly without any damage, but his personal information was taken. So he sent the kids and the mom on base. And staked out his apartment, that night when the criminals hit his house he was ready. Because honestly what are the cops going to do? They are too strapped chasing other things then to stake out his house. He took care of the problem and those guy are now in prison, because he had the skills as well as the weapons to address the problem.
Seriously who are you going to depend on besides yourself? The police won't be able to respond in time to address an instant threat.
The problem is when the tazer comes out, we are not worrying about the injury from the tazer. We are more worried about, when we do have to shoot someone, the questions is going to come up "WHY DIDNT YOU TAZE THEM".
I can understand people protecting themselves and in your story he did a good job. If he did not alert the police to the problem, I do have a problem with that. And sayind that the police "WONT" be able to respond in a time to address and instant threat. Even people who are ready really cant respond to and "instant" threat. If someone wants to do harm then they will no matter what you have to go back at them with. Just like an alarm on a house or car will not stop a career thief.
Where i work live Bergen County NJ it is only 234 sqare miles, YET we have 72 different police jurisdictions. Town i work in is only like 1.9 aquare miles. We have timed it and MOST cases we have a 30 second response time for 1st officer to arrive. So here we are on top of something just after it happens. I can not speak for the towns that have 100 square miles and 1 cop has to cover 30 of it.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by thirty5
The problem is when the tazer comes out, we are not worrying about the injury from the tazer. We are more worried about, when we do have to shoot someone, the questions is going to come up "WHY DIDNT YOU TAZE THEM".
I can understand people protecting themselves and in your story he did a good job. If he did not alert the police to the problem, I do have a problem with that. And sayind that the police "WONT" be able to respond in a time to address and instant threat. Even people who are ready really cant respond to and "instant" threat. If someone wants to do harm then they will no matter what you have to go back at them with. Just like an alarm on a house or car will not stop a career thief.
Where i work live Bergen County NJ it is only 234 sqare miles, YET we have 72 different police jurisdictions. Town i work in is only like 1.9 aquare miles. We have timed it and MOST cases we have a 30 second response time for 1st officer to arrive. So here we are on top of something just after it happens. I can not speak for the towns that have 100 square miles and 1 cop has to cover 30 of it.
He did call the police, before, then after they broke in.
LOL, 1.9 square mile town. I've riden with family member in Dallas, there are no 30 second response times, in Dallas. It takes that long to get the call from the dispatcher to the car then to turn around in the right direction.
I live in a rural area, response times here are measured with sundials and calenders. And guns are as much for rattlers and cougars as for guys jumping the wall at the state pen.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by thirty5
If someone wants to do harm then they will no matter what you have to go back at them with. Just like an alarm on a house or car will not stop a career thief.
a hollow tip will go a long way to stop a person. Just like a pissed off marine with with a boobie trapped door and an assalt rifle.

 

[thirty5]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
a hollow tip will go a long way to stop a person. Just like a pissed off marine with with a boobie trapped door and an assalt rifle.

LOL!
Ya here we have great response times. There was a story of a guy who lived in a trailer park and his trailer kept getting broken into. So he set a boobie trap, then next time someone broke in the boobie trap set off a gun and killed the intruder. The owner of the trailer went to jail.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by thirty5
LOL!
Ya here we have great response times. There was a story of a guy who lived in a trailer park and his trailer kept getting broken into. So he set a boobie trap, then next time someone broke in the boobie trap set off a gun and killed the intruder. The owner of the trailer went to jail.
He didn't have it set to shoot when the guy opened the door, just make alot of wracket.

 

[rooroo]

I have a Ruger .357, model SP101. It is small, just right for my small hand and my husband also loves it. It is a perfect revolver for a female.

 

[florida joe]

I have a great burglar alarm, it’s the sound of my pump action shot gun racking in a round, alarms the hell out of them

 

[nigerbang]

Originally Posted by florida joe
I have a great burglar alarm, it’s the sound of my pump action shot gun racking in a round, alarms the hell out of them

I love that idea....What I want to do though is...
If someone was in my house have them hear the sound of a chainsaw cranking up....Talk about freaking out..

 

[deltablack22]

Originally Posted by florida joe
I have a great burglar alarm, it’s the sound of my pump action shot gun racking in a round, alarms the hell out of them
True true... I have a mossberg cruiser, and when I bought it this guy tells me "Hey you know the best part about this gun?", so I play along and say "no, what"... "It's bilingual"... He works the action and says "I dont give a ---- if they cant understand English, they'll understand that". I've heard my grandfather say that before but it cracks me up everytime...

 

[shogun323]

That funny. I hadnt heard that before.
There is definately something to be said about the destinctive sound of a shotgun being racked. It is perhaps the ultimate home defense weapon. No need to worry about where your rounds end up. Heck you dont even have to worry about aiming!!! You can neutralize a threat with your eyes half open with a shotgun!!!!

 

[florida joe]

Originally Posted by DeltaBlack22
True true... I have a mossberg cruiser, and when I bought it this guy tells me "Hey you know the best part about this gun?", so I play along and say "no, what"... "It's bilingual"... He works the action and says "I dont give a ---- if they cant understand English, they'll understand that". I've heard my grandfather say that before but it cracks me up everytime...
i have a mossberg pistol grip with an 18in barrel for get the buck shot use slugs 1/2inch going in 3 coming out

 

[florida joe]

Originally Posted by NigerBang

I love that idea....What I want to do though is...
If someone was in my house have them hear the sound of a chainsaw cranking up....Talk about freaking out..
man and you say im the crazy one (love how you think)

 

[hattrick58]

I purchased my wife a Beretta 3032 .32 cal Tomcat (There is a jpg under "Gun Thread"). It's not my favorite but she's very happy with it. It's small, very concealable and quite fun to shoot. However, it is not accurate past seven or eight feet and it expels the casings about 25 freaking feet (I mentioned that because I was tagged in the face by one). It's suited for personal protection.

 

[jovial]

Im not to fond of Beretta pistols either, I owned a 92F and it's accuracy was crap beyond a few feet.

 

[florida joe]

ok IMO the best carry guns are Walter ppks .380, Smith & Wesson 351pd .22M, glock 26 9mm and Kahr p9 9mm. Walter and Smith & Wesson have joined to put out a 9mm thats the thinnist you can buy but i have not fired it yet

 

[shogun323]

Originally Posted by florida joe
Walter and Smith & Wesson have joined to put out a 9mm thats the thinnist you can buy but i have not fired it yet
What is the model on that? I'd like to check that out. I carry the Kahr PM40 and it is tiny!