Did you read how PETA is urging Ben & Jerrys to make their Ice Cream with-

[keebler]

Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2767855
continuing this theme: name one other creature that drinks milk past 'childhood'? Milk was not meant to be used as adults.
This is true. Cats and Dogs are fed milk (by us) during adulthood but they are lactose intolerant and it is really bad for them, so they don't count either. People say that if we don't milk the cows, they will get huge utters...but they wouldn't get huge utters if we didn't constantly pump them full of hormones.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2767814
That is kind of silly. Let me know that next time you take down a zebra with your hands and little teeth without any guns or anything and see if that zebra doesn't whoop your butt.........lol. We have an advantage because we are able to use tools but I don't believe we should just randomly kill things because we can. It is actually a little out of hand in my opinion.
Lol…..wait???? what? that’s your debate???? guns vs teeth? Let you know when I take down a zebra? where the hell do I live? I live in NJ, so unless I’m going to go hunt in six flags great adventure wild safari I don't plan on taking down a zebra?
Now if I was created to hunt with teeth my creator would have allowed me to evolve with teeth suitable to hunt with. But since humans did not evolve with teeth to hunt with but with a brain that allows humans to think and judge, we invented the bow and arrow and gun powder and lead and all the other tools needed to kill food at a thousand yards.
We have an advantage because we can use tools??? Very good that’s why we are on top of the food chain closely followed by the chimp who spits on a blade of grass and scoops up ants out of a hole in the ground or beats another animal with a stick or rock.
We are still animals no matter how you or anyone else feels about it, we figured out after we damn near killed off the buffalo that if we breed animals that we can eat we will have an endless supply of food. All was good until some tree huger came along and did not like the fact that a deer was shot for food/sport or what have you.
Then more nuts fell out of the tree and found each other and started to get loud and people kind of just chuckled about them and let them talk about killing animals for food but yet still ignored them instead of squashing them like roaches. Now look what we have a group of nuts trying to convince people to stop eating meat, chicken fish and what ever else one of them idiots wants people to stop eating.
If you want to eat grass and berry’s and sticks have at it, like I said, I like my steak.
I hunt because I can. Does that fact upset you? Does the fact that people hunt upset you?
I love my dogs my two cats my parrot my fish/coral and two ferrets. I don’t look at them like they are food but a deer, cow, goat, chicken… yeah they are food.
As to the zebras, I give them a couple of old fashion doughnuts when I drive thru the wild safari so if I have to jump on his back and chomp on his neck the trust is already been made.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2767843
Nice avatar. I was like, why does he have a weather man on his avatar and then I figured it out....
what?????? what did you figure out????

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2767849
Yeah I also stopped going to KFC after reading about some of their practices. I love chicken as much as the next person but WTF?? Cutting their beaks off and leaving them in cages so cramped that their feet grow around the wires?? That is a bit much to me. I am definitely not ready to give up meat though. I love steak and salmon and all that good stuff but some of the time I have to put it out of my mind where it came from....
exactly. not everyone has a stomach to prep the meat and chicken and some people do.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2767855
continuing this theme: name one other creature that drinks milk past 'childhood'? Milk was not meant to be used as adults.
im 32 and still drink milk along with alot of other ADULT creature? Milk as plenty of value.
a tribe??? i'm sure they are in the best of health to begin with.

 

[hlcroghan]

Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2767875
Lol…..wait???? what? that’s your debate???? guns vs teeth? Let you know when I take down a zebra? where the hell do I live? I live in NJ, so unless I’m going to go hunt in six flags great adventure wild safari I don't plan on taking down a zebra?
Now if I was created to hunt with teeth my creator would have allowed me to evolve with teeth suitable to hunt with. But since humans did not evolve with teeth to hunt with but with a brain that allows humans to think and judge, we invented the bow and arrow and gun powder and lead and all the other tools needed to kill food at a thousand yards.
We have an advantage because we can use tools??? Very good that’s why we are on top of the food chain closely followed by the chimp who spits on a blade of grass and scoops up ants out of a hole in the ground or beats another animal with a stick or rock.
We are still animals no matter how you or anyone else feels about it, we figured out after we damn near killed off the buffalo that if we breed animals that we can eat we will have an endless supply of food. All was good until some tree huger came along and did not like the fact that a deer was shot for food/sport or what have you.
Then more nuts fell out of the tree and found each other and started to get loud and people kind of just chuckled about them and let them talk about killing animals for food but yet still ignored them instead of squashing them like roaches. Now look what we have a group of nuts trying to convince people to stop eating meat, chicken fish and what ever else one of them idiots wants people to stop eating.
If you want to eat grass and berry’s and sticks have at it, like I said, I like my steak.
I hunt because I can. Does that fact upset you? Does the fact that people hunt upset you?
I love my dogs my two cats my parrot my fish/coral and two ferrets. I don’t look at them like they are food but a deer, cow, goat, chicken… yeah they are food.
As to the zebras, I give them a couple of old fashion doughnuts when I drive thru the wild safari so if I have to jump on his back and chomp on his neck the trust is already been made.
No I never said that eating meat was wrong. I never said people shouldn't hunt. I said the only reason we were at the top of the food chain is because we are able to adapt. I think it's fine to eat whatever you want. I just think that we should tone it down some. Really pay attention to what is going into our mouths instead of just mindlessly chewing because it tastes good. I love steak and chicken and fish and all that but I am selective as to when I eat it based on my bodies needs and I don't eat a lot of places where it is well known that they indescriminantly kill millions of animals and torture them for money.
As for the zebras, let me know how that works out.........LOL.

 

[keebler]

Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2767884
im 32 and still drink milk along with alot of other ADULT creature? Milk as plenty of value.
a tribe??? i'm sure they are in the best of health to begin with.
They are right on this one, milk is bad for you. I'm not saying that a glass of milk will kill you, but don't buy into the fact that it helps build strong bones and teeth and that skim milk is good for you. Our bodies have difficulties drinking treated milk because the enzymes that aid in digestion are removed.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2767892
They are right on this one, milk is bad for you. I'm not saying that a glass of milk will kill you, but don't buy into the fact that it helps build strong bones and teeth and that skim milk is good for you. Our bodies have difficulties drinking treated milk because the enzymes that aid in digestion are removed.
that fact alone, yes they are right. I fully agree that we has greedy humans trying to stretch a buck has messed with our bodies with all the preservatives. While some say calcium from milk is not all that great Is a farce. it’s the preservatives and supper heating and rapid cooling that destroys the most of the value in milk. Same with vegetables, You eat raw vegetables to get the most out of them. No we cook it to a mush and expect to get the same value out of it.
Lactose intolerance was not a real problem till the hormones and antibiotics were introduce to the cows and then added to the milk. The more we try to prevent problems the more we add them or even create problems for our selves.
I can honestly say i have never fed my animals milk.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2767888
No I never said that eating meat was wrong. I never said people shouldn't hunt. I said the only reason we were at the top of the food chain is because we are able to adapt. I think it's fine to eat whatever you want. I just think that we should tone it down some. Really pay attention to what is going into our mouths instead of just mindlessly chewing because it tastes good. I love steak and chicken and fish and all that but I am selective as to when I eat it based on my bodies needs and I don't eat a lot of places where it is well known that they indescriminantly kill millions of animals and torture them for money.
As for the zebras, let me know how that works out.........LOL.
Ok, so get mad at PETA for bring into your life. You were living happy and content before some dope felt it was important to bring it to the attention of anyone who listens.
Does it suck that an animal that is used for food has to suffer? Sure it does. I feel bad when I just miss the vitals and the deer bounces out into the woods to die and then I have go out and find him and drag his bleeding carcass back to the truck. I don’t ask anyone who is not a hunter to help drag the deer or help string it up and gut it. But Peta feels that I’m an a sshole and should not be allowed to kill a deer when I can feed my family and donate the meat to a soup kitchen cause we are not going to eat all the meat (I don’t like frozen venison and don‘t want to waste it) At the same time while I collect the deer I stop and say a prayer for the life I have taken along with many other hunters, but again we are the worst people on this earth. Hitler himself is a better person then the men and women who hunt. So going back to the chicken suffering, with all the hopla that went on about the suffering did any of that change? Nope they are just more guarded about it. Yeah some manufactures changed techniques but the end results are the same, an animal is killed to feed people.
As to the zebra in???? what is it 2012 dooms day again???? I may have to jump that zebra according to the mayas

 

[sharkbait9]

Getting back to PETA like I really want to talk about those fruit loops, they are extremist and should be mocked and laughed at and not even given a second thought.
So help me god as I live and breath if ben and jerry change one ingredient in my favorite ice cream I’ll be one P-OED MOTHER F-ER

 

[keebler]

Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2767942
Getting back to PETA like I really want to talk about those fruit loops, they are extremist and should be mocked and laughed at and not even given a second thought.
So help me god as I live and breath if ben and jerry change one ingredient in my favorite ice cream I’ll be one P-OED MOTHER F-ER
Wow. You have some strong opinions, not there is anything wrong with that. I really enjoy reading all of this. Were you on the debate team or something.

 

[nordy]

Jumping in on this one: Like others have said, PETA are extremists, and those types just disgust me. Me? I like my meat, and I have no problem with paying someone else to produce it for me, including killing the animal. The fact is that humans are omnivores, and our digestive system works very well at digesting animal flesh. That is our heritage and a part of our evolutionary history so to PETA I say, get off my back, get a life, and let those who chose to eat meat do so in peace. What is the difference between hunting down and killing live prey and then eating it and paying a butcher to kill, dress, and prep an animal for our consumption? I mean, we are still killing an animal for food, as out prehistoric ancestors did, it's just not so direct.
That being said, producing meat and other animal food products does require significantly more resources than producing veggies-think about all the fuel that goes into producing grass, corn, etc that cattle, pigs, etc feed upon. It can be reasonably considered to be a prodigious waste of resources to feed off of the very top of the food chain as we modern carnivores do, as opposed to Cro Magnon humans who took grazing animals right out of the ecosystem and well, ate them and used every little bit of them to sustain themselves.
I would sum up by asking, Can't we all just get along, and live our own lives, differently from some of our brothers and sisters, and respect differing lifestyles? Then extremists like PETA come along and do their best to suck the very life out what is considered normal by many other people. They just do not seem to understand that contratry to what Barry Goldwater said 45 years ago, Extremism in the defense of meat eating IS NOT a virtue.

 

[keebler]

Originally Posted by Nordy
http:///forum/post/2767989
Jumping in on this one: Like others have said, PETA are extremists, and those types just disgust me. Me? I like my meat, and I have no problem with paying someone else to produce it for me, including killing the animal. The fact is that humans are omnivores, and our digestive system works very well at digesting animal flesh. That is our heritage and a part of our evolutionary history so to PETA I say, get off my back, get a life, and let those who chose to eat meat do so in peace. What is the difference between hunting down and killing live prey and then eating it and paying a butcher to kill, dress, and prep an animal for our consumption? I mean, we are still killing an animal for food, as out prehistoric ancestors did, it's just not so direct.
That being said, producing meat and other animal food products does require significantly more resources than producing veggies-think about all the fuel that goes into producing grass, corn, etc that cattle, pigs, etc feed upon. It can be reasonably considered to be a prodigious waste of resources to feed off of the very top of the food chain as we modern carnivores do, as opposed to Cro Magnon humans who took grazing animals right out of the ecosystem and well, ate them and used every little bit of them to sustain themselves.
I would sum up by asking, Can't we all just get along, and live our own lives, differently from some of our brothers and sisters, and respect differing lifestyles? Then extremists like PETA come along and do their best to suck the very life out what is considered normal by many other people. They just do not seem to understand that contratry to what Barry Goldwater said 45 years ago, Extremism in the defense of meat eating IS NOT a virtue.
Notify me if you write a book, I wanna be the first to buy it. I agree with this. I am not an animal rights activist, but I do believe that animals deserve some respect. Killing a perfectly good newborn animal for food just doesn't sit well with me. I mean, I think it should at least deserve some sort of life. Another issue that I am prochoice on is dogfighting. Discuss.

 

[kikithemermaid]

Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2767435
If you're a vegan how do you eat ice cream?
Sorry, I meant their company (my cousin works there), not their ice cream...
Dogfighting should NEVER be allowed.
People who wear fur disgust me.
I think hunting is okay ONLY if you eat the meat.
And while PETA does go to extremes (throwing fake blood on people's fur???) and the

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milk thing...I think animals have the same right as people.
That is all, I'm out!
(If you think I'm extremist, tell my friend who thinks eating meat should be illegal...)

 

[keebler]

Originally Posted by kikithemermaid
http:///forum/post/2768030
Sorry, I meant their company (my cousin works there), not their ice cream...
Dogfighting should NEVER be allowed.
People who wear fur disgust me.
I think hunting is okay ONLY if you eat the meat.
And while PETA does go to extremes (throwing fake blood on people's fur???) and the

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milk thing...I think animals have the same right as people.
That is all, I'm out!
(If you think I'm extremist, tell my friend who thinks eating meat should be illegal...)
Look up tosa inu dogfighting...you may just change your mind.

 

[alyssia]

Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2767843
Nice avatar. I was like, why does he have a weather man on his avatar and then I figured it out....
I was wondering the same thing at first--especially since I recognize this guy from our local station, (in Ohio) and sharkbaits locations is Jersey
Then is I was like.......OH!!!!!

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by kikithemermaid
http:///forum/post/2768030
Sorry, I meant their company (my cousin works there), not their ice cream...
Dogfighting should NEVER be allowed.
People who wear fur disgust me.
I think hunting is okay ONLY if you eat the meat.
And while PETA does go to extremes (throwing fake blood on people's fur???) and the

[hr]
milk thing...I think animals have the same right as people.
That is all, I'm out!
(If you think I'm extremist, tell my friend who thinks eating meat should be illegal...)
dog fighting I agree. Taking domesticated animal and reverting the animal back to its primitive state is useless and barbaric and pointless except for ones one morbid enjoyment.
Wearing fur disgust you? Unless you wear synthetic clothing you disgust your self.
I love my leather jacket. It keeps me warm and toasty. Try one you’ll love the warmth. its no wonder animals get skinned for their pelt, I’d skin a human if they would keep just as warm.
Same rights as people????? I love that comment. So who is your dog/cat voting for this election? Are they registered yet cause ya know they have the same rights as humans.
Now remember a drivers license is privilege and not a right, try to explain that to your pet when they start pestering you to get their own.
Animals have some right and those rights are based on decent society. Not be abused, housed and feed and maintain properly. In china weeeeeeell that’s a different story since dogs and cats are on the menu but in US where we people seem to forget the biggest difference between humans and dogs, cats. You drop dead in front of your animal and no one feeds them your dead carcass becomes a meal to your beloved same rights as you pet.
Your friend who thinks eating meat should be illegal, is suffering from malnourishment and getting a little loopy. Sorry, but people like that give me great joy to watch as I eat a bloody burger in front of them as I sadistically lick the dripping runny blood off my fingers and ever so quietly give a faint moo as I bite into the burger.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2767962
Wow. You have some strong opinions, not there is anything wrong with that. I really enjoy reading all of this. Were you on the debate team or something.
lol only when a certain subject comes up will i really ever get verbal.
lol no, no debate team all that talking and yelling boy what a head ache.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by alyssia
http:///forum/post/2768040
I was wondering the same thing at first--especially since I recognize this guy from our local station, (in Ohio) and sharkbaits locations is Jersey
Then is I was like.......OH!!!!!

ok really whats so funny about my avatar? Its just the waether man talking about the sever weather that was heading to the east cost. God i wish i knew

 

[jmick]

Not big on ice cream but mom's special blend is really strange and creepy! I am all for animals to be treated well before they end up on my plate... a happy hoofed critter = tasty eats!