DO NOT DO as Meowzer did :(

tangs rule

tangs rule

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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/160#post_3412472
You know what...I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE

ALl I know is that on Friday....we are supposed to take the 54G apart to catch the goby.....that is my window of opportunity cause then my husband goes on nights...and we don;t have a day off (or even 1/2) for 2 more weeks....I can not even take the LED lights off this tank alone.......
we are going to pull the rock out and re-do the tank too before he goes to work Friday night
It's really not all that hard to set up a qtine tank. I think a little too much attention is being paid on perfect water parameters for one single goby in a good size tank. A tank can slow cycle with a light bio load and do just fine. I started my big dt with only15% cured/cycled Lr& substrate & HUNDREDS of pounds of new/dry. But I don't wanna get flammed for suggesting too much.
 
gemmy

gemmy

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I think you will be fine adding the goby on Friday. Don't over feed, get new test kits, watch the parameters and be prepared to do water changes. It's that simple. LOL.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Gemmy http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/180#post_3412475
I think you will be fine adding the goby on Friday. Don't over feed, get new test kits, watch the parameters and be prepared to do water changes. It's that simple. LOL.
I ordered the ammonia and nitrite kits tonight.....The goby eats shrimp right from a feeding stick....LOL...so he should be easy to feed :)
I have 25 gallons of water made up right now.....figured I will need some when I take the 54G apart, and I believe it is a good idea to keep fresh SW on hand when you have a fish in qt
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tangs rule

tangs rule

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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/180#post_3412478
I have 25 gallons of water made up right now.....figured I will need some when I take the 54G apart, and I believe it is a good idea to keep fresh SW on hand when you have a fish in qt
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Very Helpful to premix in bulk - espically during hypo - as then it's just a w/c and PH check/adjust - versus mixing 1.008 every couple days.....AND it'll suprise you (good type) how LITTLE salt mix is req'd to get a brute can of rodi up to 1.008.....it's like a couple cups
as opposed to going all the way up to .024 or so. I keep a small powerhead in my can of premix to keep it agitated.
 
gemmy

gemmy

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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/180#post_3412478
I ordered the ammonia and nitrite kits tonight.....The goby eats shrimp right from a feeding stick....LOL...so he should be easy to feed :)
I have 25 gallons of water made up right now.....figured I will need some when I take the 54G apart, and I believe it is a good idea to keep fresh SW on hand when you have a fish in qt
......
It is an excellent idea to have fresh SW on hand especially when you have fish in QT.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/180#post_3412480
Very Helpful to premix in bulk - espically during hypo - as then it's just a w/c and PH check/adjust - versus mixing 1.008 every couple days.....AND it'll suprise you (good type) how LITTLE salt mix is req'd to get a brute can of rodi up to 1.008.....it's like a couple cups
as opposed to going all the way up to .024 or so. I keep a small powerhead in my can of premix to keep it agitated.
Well I am off to bed....quick question...can't you make normal SW.....and add fresh ro/di to bring it down as needed????? ex: make 25g's of 1.025....take out a little of that and add a little ro/di to make it 1.008????
answer in the a.m.....LOL..
GOODNIGHT ALL
 
gemmy

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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/180#post_3412482
Well I am off to bed....quick question...can't you make normal SW.....and add fresh ro/di to bring it down as needed????? ex: make 25g's of 1.025....take out a little of that and add a little ro/di to make it 1.008????
answer in the a.m.....LOL..
GOODNIGHT ALL
Yup, that is how it is done.
 
tangs rule

tangs rule

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Originally Posted by meowzer
Well I am off to bed....quick question...can't you make normal SW.....and add fresh ro/di to bring it down as needed????? ex: make 25g's of 1.025....take out a little of that and add a little ro/di to make it 1.008????
answer in the a.m.....LOL..
GOODNIGHT ALL
Done it that way too - and since your'e gonna have only 1 little fish to qtine it'll work - it just takes longer to "waterdown" 025 than just use ready to fill 008.....since I usually run kinda full of fish qtine tanks, I'll do a 20% every 2-4 days max - so keeping .008 on hand works best. Since you'll likely be able to go many days without a parital w/c - it may just be easier to use 025 and just BE SURE to get it stable & down to 008 and do a w/c. Gnite
 
beth

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It's really not all that hard to set up a qtine tank. I think a little too much attention is being paid on perfect water parameters for one single goby in a good size tank. A tank can slow cycle with a light bio load and do just fine.
Very Helpful to premix in bulk - espically during hypo - as then it's just a w/c and PH check/adjust - versus mixing 1.008 every couple days.....AND it'll suprise you (good type) how LITTLE salt mix is req'd to get a brute can of rodi up to 1.008
 
Pretty much what I have been trying to convey here. You said it well.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Yes you are mistaken
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Originally Posted by Kiefers http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/160#post_3412471
Maybe I'm wrong but I do believe I have read this on this form but if one takes sand out of an established tank and put into another or newer tank, won't you be killing off the bacteris in the newer tank and get an ammonia spike, along with other spikes as well? People do suggest in doing this to kick start an initial cycle, right, or am I mistaken?
 
florida joe

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With all due respect to you my love (Lois) it seems this thread started out as something designed to tell people to QT new fish and or to find out what may have killed your fish. It then morphed into a thread on how to start up a QT. now let me get on my soap box. Starting up a QT is nothing more than starting up a DT minus all the bells and whistles. Now for my lecturing, one needs to know the fundamentals of the nitrogen cycle the foundation on which we are allowed to maintain our tanks. It seems to me that many of the questions asked by posters show a lack of this knowledge. Then again what do I know
 
meowzer

meowzer

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LOL...you know quite a bit JOE....it's just that it seems there are a lot of differing opinion on HOW TOS
I really wanted people to see the importance of a qt...and what can happen if you don't have one.....apparently my "luck" ran out :( and I learned a hard lesson...at the expense of my poor fish that died....they suffered the real penalty here
 
al&burke

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Just for the record meowzer - this is very big of you for sharing your miss-fortunes. Takes a bigger person to admit their mistakes. We have all made them.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Lois I agree there is a lot of different opinions on how to BUT the one positive absolute is that in some way shape or form the hobbyist will eventually need bio filtration. The establishment of which is through bacteria growth. This growth has fundamental steps which should be learned at the outset of the hobbyists endeavor to keep a saltwater aquarium.
Now to my good friend AL. so if I was to admit my mistakes it would make me a BIGGER person? hum interesting . Lois has always said to me “I wish you were bigger”
 
beth

beth

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LOL...I think I have mentioned a few  times that I was getting confused

 
I'm not surethis will help anyone ...as was my original intention

 
 
Which is why my comments about too many opinions on something like this can and often is counterproductive. At least that has been my exp. moderating here for nearly 12 yrs.
 
kiefers

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Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/180#post_3412557
Which is why my comments about too many opinions on something like this can and often is counterproductive. At least that has been my exp. moderating here for nearly 12 yrs.
okay.... for the past month or so, I have caught mysellf thinking that it is the sole responsiblity of the hobbyst, wether new or experienced, to take anyones opinion, or suggestions cautiously. This thread is a perfect example of this. the hobbyst should always research the question or problem at hand. If the hobbyst has been on this forum for some time, it is easy to take the suggestions of most aquarists to heart, I've done as well, but when it comes to a situation like this where there are multiple opinins, questions, suggestions and do this and do thats, it is easy to see where one will get overwhelmed and hense frustrated. someone once told me to always do your own research.
sorry if I added to your frustration/confusion Meowzer but after loggin off here last night I hit the internet and went bolistic on all sorts of topic Lol....
Whichever route you take I'm sure you'll get great results.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/387603/do-not-do-as-meowzer-did/180#post_3412557
Which is why my comments about too many opinions on something like this can and often is counterproductive. At least that has been my exp. moderating here for nearly 12 yrs.
Which is also why I preach until I am blue in the face about hobbyist doing their own homework. It is a good bet that they can find published information that will allow them to make an educated decision. Just as detrimental many opinions can be the same can be said for too few. IMO I (and this is just me) would rather have multiple ideas to ponder then have one or two that I must take for gospel
 
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