Flower's Sump/Fuge Build

2quills

Well-Known Member
Un-friggin believeable. That right there would probably be enough to cause me to go "postal" on UPS. All that hard work. Damnit man, it makes me angry for you. And sad after all of the efforts and anticipation of waiting and wanting to see a smile on Flowers face after everything she's been through...what a let down!
They smashed the friggin sump to bits...how do you do that? And then just drop it off and run? Pffft@#$!!!
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
It is a bit dissheartening. It's kind of hard to get mad at UPS as a whole because in their defense they do have great people like Shawn working for them. However this perticular driver is not off the hook yet as far as I'm concerned.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
This as shipped on my own time my own money....Regardless of me working there or not......I am/was still a paying customer.....The big wigs wouldn't tolerate that type of service.....OOOhhhhh and the sermons we hear all the time about taking care of our freight....Treat it like it was going to your house.....I see how far that goes......Just about of hot air......I think I need to go to but a$$ doctor......I might have colon cancer from all the smoke up my butt.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
A nicely drafted letter, detailing the entire thread, (not that they care), but just sending them a nicely crafted letter detailing all the time involved and just showing/relating the poor level of service and that we as a hobby do ship quite a bit of stuff through their company, that we'd expect things to be handled quickly, and without issue, or the information and pictures will be posted on all other major forums, and that if we can't resolve the matter that we will get the word out there how are freight/items are handled. Again these "higher ups" have no clue what is involved in the game as far a shipping business or hobby end of things.....They set quotas, and they expect them to be met regardless how it is done. Bottom line it means are hard work, materials, and goods are damaged to meet the companies goals, and shipping wet, and cargo space.....It's all about "cubing" the trailer out and maximizing their profit at our expense!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/880#post_3327828
What did you have in mind? I don't think UPS has a complaint department do they?
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Agreed...just give me an address to send it to. Heck I'll even print out the entire thread and send it with it just so they know that we're not blowing smoke up their own arses.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
That's what I'm thinking every last page.....I think honestly these pics should make it to the other forums as well!!!!!!
 

acrylic51

Active Member
Since UPS doesn't have a Complaint Department, I guess we should send it to the Headquarters....
UPS Corporate Headquarters
55 Glenlake Parkway NE
Atlanta Ga. 30328
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
I'll start working on a letter ASAP. I hope at the very least that they reimburse you for the minimum insurance on each box. It's impossibly to put a price on all of the blood, sweat and tears that you put into it but by gosh I hope to heck that you can at least re-coup some of the materials cost. It still makes my blood boil just thinking about it and I didn't even make it.
 

flower

Well-Known Member

I was thinking maybe contacting the news media instead. This all quite a human interest story, not just because UPS ruined everything. They have been ruining things for a long time, but the good thing everyone was trying to accomplish. this story should be told.
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Well I'd kind of still like to see what they plan to do about it first. It makes me upset but I think I'll at least give them the chance to try to help correct the situation before I decide what to say or do. The carelessness should be addressed one way or another.
 

u mike

Member
i just read what happened, VERY SORRY . i dont have enough time right now heading to a funeral. i have a thought that might help this problem. will get back to everyone later today.
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/380517/flower-s-sump-fuge-build/880#post_3327935

I was thinking maybe contacting the news media instead. This all quite a human interest story, not just because UPS ruined everything. They have been ruining things for a long time, but the good thing everyone was trying to accomplish. this story should be told.
 

slice

Active Member
I cannot tell you how heartsick I feel over this, for several reasons. First, the obvious reason, the damage from shipping, the loss of such loving hard work and anticipation of success.
I am loath to make this post. By no means is it intended to impune.
It never occurred to me to ask the basic question "How are you going to ship it?" I assumed it would be taken to somewhere like The UPS Store and let professionals be responsible for packaging.
I have been a Packaging Design Engineer for 28 years, with a collection of design awards on my wall, yada, yada...
If my interpretation of the pictures are correct, the item was packed in a single wall carton with loose fill. Had I seen this package before it had shipped, I would have advised with near certainty that it would not survive. It appears that the corner of the package took a hit. Single wall corrugated will crush without ******** support. Loose fill migrates away during a drop, exposing the packed item to the full, or near full impact. Corner drops are the most dangerous.
A heavy, relatively fragile item such as this should be packed in a tight fitting carton with foam. This carton should then be packed in another carton with corner supports such as corner blocks.
This method is shown and described on the UPS site through the Packaging Advisor:
http://www.ups.com/packaging/?loc=en_US
This style of pack is called a "chassis pack" and looks like this (grabbed from the UPS site)

I hate this post. I let you down for not bringing this up sooner. I could have contributed.
Seeing the packaging method and nature of the packaged item, UPS may very well reply with "Unsuitable Packaging by Shipper" along with a "hate it for you" sympathy letter.
I almost did not post this, I hate it, but I had to.
I am so very sorry. Perhaps I can be of service for the re-build.
 
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