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bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379731/for-fox-news-fans/40#post_3302352
What part of his policies are 'Socialist"? It's been shown MULTIPLE times the health care reform is not based on socialized medicine. That's called MEDICARE. The bailouts to the auto makers were LOANS. There are no government officials on the Boards of GM and Chrysler. The stimulus packages were designed to infuse the economy, and get people spending again. Instead, the Republicans did a media blitz campaigning all the negativity behind the programs, and the American people fell for it and stuffed their money back into their pockets. Businesses ran scared because the Tea Party says the "Sky Is Falling, and we're doomed", so they quit growing their companies, and stopped hiring. It's amazing what impact the media and the Internet has on the stability of our government and economy. Just look at the discourse and disagreements you see on this forum. Ten years ago, you never had this capability to start mainstream upheaval and generate rumors and half-truths about someone or some government entity. You only heard about these issues on the Big Three networks, or you local newspaper. You want to get this country out of the doldrums and a near-Depression? Turn off these reality-style 'news outlets' and quit reading second-hand and third-hand internet stories and blogs, and actually go out and get first-hand accounts of what's really going on in this country. Maybe then, people would see it's not as bad as what Glenn Beck, Hannity, Olbermeir (whatever that MSN dufus' name is), or that ditz on MSN is telling you.
Obama said it himself: "redistribution". That my friend is as Marxist as it gets.
As to health care, it sets up the fall of the current system to be taken over by the sigle payer, gov't option. It does not include a gov't option, but is making it so difficult it almost forces that to happen.
As to the loans I've heard the term "gov't ownership" from all three media outlets. Ownership does not equal a loan in my mind. Did Obama not demand the resignation of the chief of GM and get it?
Did the loans prevent the bankruptcy, no. Did the massive gov't spending keep unemployment below the PROMISED 9%....NO!!!! what a waste of money.
Where in the whole Constitution is there a"bail out" or even Medicare? Medicare was (just) barely Constitutional when it was still YOUR money. It WAS voluntary ( supposidly so is the income tax). Now, they've opened the lock box to buy pork for re-election. What was my money for my "golden years". Has become a bridge to nowhere and pork barrel spending.
You still don't get the whole Obama thing do you!? Listen to what the man has said, read his books and you will see the Marxist he really is. Heck he even stated in one of his books he would side with Islam against the US. Things like that make us wonder what side he is on.
They talk about this "hole" we are in. I thought when you found yourself in a hole, the first thing to do was stop digging. With spending the way it is that is not stopping.
BTW they are reproting the fed is thinking of making interest rates 0%. Wow, are we that close to default. I'm glad I have some gold, silver and plenty of ammo.
I just love that article Bionic, they don't get it. Gov't spending and the economy is not getting better. They made the problem, they are not the answer.
