heard obama is gonna reinact clintons gun bann?

rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/2832416
I fell upon this thread and got a bit of a laugh. Everyone who voted for barack was blind to the fact that his "Change" included an eventual ban of all guns within city limits. Here is what I think about it, I go hunting with an Ak-47 sometimes and then other times I go with my 12-gauge remington, either or, the 2nd amendment gives me the right to own them and the only way the government will get them from me is by my cold dead hands. I have a 10-gauge gas powered shotgun I keep for my protection and some may say, "why would you need that powerful of a gun"; my answer is, "I don't, but I have the right to". So stock up and have fun! A revolution is coming!!!
Anyone who thinks they need an automatic assault rifle/gun to go hunting should not be allowed to hunt... they want to use these weapons either for lack of skill or are just "thrill" killers...
I am not opposed to hunting... but an AK-47 to hunt is the most ridiculous think I've ever heard.
The current ban is expiring and that is the reason why people are worried... I think it would be the right thing to do to continue the ban.
This in no way infringes on your right to bear arms... people need to understand that civillians have no reason to have military grade weaponary in their homes...
In the wrong hands this could be even more deadly... imagine if they had these guns in cases like Columbine or VT Shootings... Remember the shootout in LA w/ the bank robbery... Remember the stories of drive bys with Uzi's ...
Remember the days of Bonnie and Clyde and Chicago mobsters who used these weapons and outmatched law enforcement....
and as far as what you wrote in this line I bolded... it proves to me that you probably shouldn't own these weapons and they have nothing to do with hunting... its probably more of an ego thing.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2832710
Anyone who thinks they need an automatic assault rifle/gun to go hunting should not be allowed to hunt... they want to use these weapons either for lack of skill or are just "thrill" killers...
I am not opposed to hunting... but an AK-47 to hunt is the most ridiculous think I've ever heard.
The current ban is expiring and that is the reason why people are worried... I think it would be the right thing to do to continue the ban.
This in no way infringes on your right to bear arms... people need to understand that civillians have no reason to have military grade weaponary in their homes...
In the wrong hands this could be even more deadly... imagine if they had these guns in cases like Columbine or VT Shootings... Remember the shootout in LA w/ the bank robbery... Remember the stories of drive bys with Uzi's ...
Remember the days of Bonnie and Clyde and Chicago mobsters who used these weapons and outmatched law enforcement....
and as far as what you wrote in this line I bolded... it proves to me that you probably shouldn't own these weapons and they have nothing to do with hunting... its probably more of an ego thing.
hmm in every instance you just mentioned they got their guns illegallly or were carrying them in a place illegal to carry them lotta good the restrictions did...
ESPECIALLY in the Bank shooting. To bad the goodguys weren't allowed to own a high powered gun. You prove our point quite well.
I really don't want someone like you deciding what is "military grade" after all typically the military has pistols too. Are you saying that is military grade? After all an M9 bretta is a typical Army side arm, that is miltary grade, they use it in the military. Are you saying we can't own an 9 mm bretta?
2nd the brady bill has expired. Which is what I think most people here are refering to.
And why not hunt with an AK you have a high powered round on a stable platform in a gun that will fire very reliably? Isn't that what you'd want in a gun. I've never seen someone hunt with a full auto AK. Just the typical single shot ones. (I'll bet you didn't even know that did you)
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2832491
Yea, and he's also taking your second born and putting him/her to work in the new Socialist-run auto factory he's about to buy, taking 35% of your salary because you voted for McCain, and making you go to the newly formed National Hospital Of The Americas to get your healthcare needs taken care of...
these changes in taxes are not significant... people act like this is some precedent being set... the taxes will be the same as they were before Bush came into office...Actually they will be lower than they were in the 80's under Regan... Some of you Republicans are so misinformed... Obama's plan is going to have less of an impact on your healthcare than McCain's would...
 
rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2832718
hmm in every instance you just mentioned they got their guns illegallly or were carrying them in a place illegal to carry them lotta good the restrictions did...
ESPECIALLY in the Bank shooting. To bad the goodguys weren't allowed to own a high powered gun. You prove our point quite well.
I really don't want someone like you deciding what is "military grade" after all typically the military has pistols too. Are you saying that is military grade? After all an M9 bretta is a typical Army side arm, that is miltary grade, they use it in the military. Are you saying we can't own an 9 mm bretta?
2nd the brady bill has expired. Which is what I think most people here are refering to.
And why not hunt with an AK you have a high powered round on a stable platform in a gun that will fire very reliably? Isn't that what you'd want in a gun. I've never seen someone hunt with a full auto AK. Just the typical single shot ones. (I'll bet you didn't even know that did you)
I've seen the single shot... I suppose it wouldn't take much to modify, just like an AR-15, and I am not talking about Pistols...even though I don't know why anyone would need an Desert Eagle, except for it is cool or want to intimidate someone, or show off.. But as far as military grade.. I am refering to tactical weapons and weapons used on battle fields... I'm not talking about pistols or knifes/bainets... there is absolutely no use for them...
And making them available means they will eventually wind up in the hands of people who will misuse them or use them for criminal purposes..
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2832723
these changes in taxes are not significant... people act like this is some precedent being set... the taxes will be the same as they were before Bush came into office...Actually they will be lower than they were in the 80's under Regan... Some of you Republicans are so misinformed... Obama's plan is going to have less of an impact on your healthcare than McCain's would...
What does any of this have to do with banning guns?
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2832723
the taxes will be the same as they were before Bush came into office...Actually they will be lower than they were in the 80's under Regan...
So Obama is raising taxes on everyone who pays taxes. hmmm Care to explain the reagan thing, the only person I've heard try to explain it, didn't know the difference between capital gains, and income tax. And was literally saying that with obama taxes will be 20% (capital gains) and with reagan they were 39% (income tax) and you call us ignorant. And this was some retarted democrat senator.
 
jdl

jdl

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2831795
No , it's stalking. Never understood the concept of using a shotgun for hunting deer. Nothing like digging a couple hundred pellets out of good meat.
wouldnt people use a 'slug' instead of 'shot'?
 
jdl

jdl

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2832731
And making them available means they will eventually wind up in the hands of people who will misuse them or use them for criminal purposes..
You do realize the criminals get them illegally anyway. So banning them has ZERO effect.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2832076
Why do I need a nuclear bomb? Because I want one. More people have been killed in swimming pools since the last nuclear bomb went off. How about grenades, dynamite, plastic explosives? I have a site where I can buy a silencer for my 9mm. Why not? LOCK AND LOAD BABY. Shoot, let the kids take them to school. They want guns for protection. Why not?
Show me where in the constitution you are guaranteed the right to keep and bare nuclear weapons?
As has been pointed out here numerous times the "assault" weapons ban was useless for anything but making a butt load of money for anyone who stocked up on AK's before the ban.
I have faith in the Democrap party's ability to completely misread the will of the people. They will pass a bunch of stupid laws next year just like they did in 93. Of course we all remember what happened in 94
I just hope there's a Gingrich in the Republican party ready to take the lead.
 
sangria

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I sincerely hope no one would go around attempting to take people's guns. I find it difficult to believe they would, since most of us would say "Sure you can have it, bullets first." I have enough concern about Obama's policies, so I really don't want to worry about him attempting to take my guns too. On the bright side, he will likely move very tenderly, as every decision he makes is going to upset some special interest group that he made promises to.
 
reefraff

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Looking like my first prediction is already taking shape. The Obama regime transition announced Obama planned to use executive orders to push several agenda items including a ban on oil drilling in western Utah.
Bill Clinton punished those wascawy ol utes for voting against him by locking up a huge state reverse of clean burning low sulfur coal. The Obamanista's appear to using the oil beneath the "pristine" scrub brush of western Utah to punish them.
 
acrylics

acrylics

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Converting a semi-auto to fall-auto is a felony weapons charge and is worth a hefty fine, 10 years in prison, and losing my right to own a firearm - forever. I respect my rights far too much to do this and every firearms enthusiast I come into contact with has a similar philosophy.
I have never seen a hunter using a full-auto to hunt with, ever, and I sincerely doubt you have either. Please be reasonable and get your facts straight when debating this, you're far too smart not to.
Unfortunately, manufacture of FA weapons for civilian use has been outlawed for many years and the ones that do legally own FA weapons certainly respect their rights to own them and would not risk those rights.
The 2nd paragraph of Declaration of Independence spelled out the spirit and reasoning of the 2A and the Constitution makes it law. Both are worth a read sometime.
The first 10 amendments to the Constitution are not the "bill of needs" they are the "Bill of Rights".
Why do you need free speech? wouldn't we all get along much better if no one were allowed to disagree? By that reasoning, we could also end all religious arguments at the same time.
What do we need due process for? just execute upon accusation.
and the list goes on... so do not ask "why do you need...?" it is not a "need" per se, it is a "Right", plain and simple. If you respect any of your Constitutional rights, you have to respect all of them.
Criminals do not care if guns are banned, they are, by nature, criminals.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Problem is you have people who don't really have the facts that will support anything the Obamanistas come up with.
Let's see, the Assault weapons ban expired 4 years ago. Still waiting for the blood in the streets deal.
Hey Rylan, try going hunting with a Automatic rifle, hell, try buying one for that matter. Now if you are semiautomatics then I guess the hundreds of thousands of bird hunters who have utilized weapons like the Remington 1100 for generations are "Unskilled Thrill hunters" too.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2832745
Oh, I forgot. Thanks

Especially in texas, we're thrilled when we get a 10 point deep over 100 pounds.
Originally Posted by sangria
http:///forum/post/2832752
I sincerely hope no one would go around attempting to take people's guns. I find it difficult to believe they would, since most of us would say "Sure you can have it, bullets first." I have enough concern about Obama's policies, so I really don't want to worry about him attempting to take my guns too. On the bright side, he will likely move very tenderly, as every decision he makes is going to upset some special interest group that he made promises to.

Bullets first imo will be the way they do it. Tax the living daylights out of them...
 
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