How to Teach Yourself, Using the Internet.

pezenfuego

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Yes, researching on your own is important. I just don't see why we should make an effort to discourage the use of these boards. I'm not being hypocritical, I'm just living in the grey area. If you think it's hypocritical, that's fine by me.
I'm accomplishing what I set out to do whether you agree with me or not.
 

florida joe

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I'm accomplishing what I set out to do whether you agree with me or not.
exactly what is it you set out to do ?
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fibinotchi
http:///forum/post/3229456
I can't help but notice that many people have asked questions that they could easily find themselves on the internet. The saying goes something like, if you give a man a fish, he will not go hungry today, if you teach him to fish, he will never go hungry. I think learning to teach ourselves is valuable and people shouldn't always rely on others to do their homework. I thought I would set up a post with the steps a person could take before posting a thread on a forum.
Step 1- Go to a search engine (i.e. Google, Yahoo) and type the exact question you have in as few words as you can. Read the info for the top 10 or 20 results to see if they will actually answer your question. If they don't...
Step 2- Search for a forum that discusses the topic your interested in(i.e. Saltwaterfish.com message board) by typing forum, questions, answers..... after your topic. When you find the forum....
Step 3
- locate the search tab somewhere on the forum home page and type in the topic that you have questions about, search 2 or 3 pages of results. Try typing the question in different ways, or just use key words that you have a question about. If you still can not find the answer to your question...
Step 4
- Start a thread in the appropriate section of the forum for your question (i.e. what is this in my tank, under hitchhiker I.D. section)
I hope this has helped and not offended anyone because being a smart$%# wasn't my intention. It wasn't that long ago that I was unable to teach myself and relied on someone else to do my homework. I just wanted to pass this information on.

Originally Posted by PEZenfuego

http:///forum/post/3230256
Yes, researching on your own is important. I just don't see why we should make an effort to discourage the use of these boards. I'm not being hypocritical, I'm just living in the grey area. If you think it's hypocritical, that's fine by me.
I'm accomplishing what I set out to do whether you agree with me or not.
PEZ PEZ PEZ read #'s 2-4 on his post. I don't believe he was discouraging anyone from using these boards.
 

pezenfuego

Active Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3230266
PEZ PEZ PEZ read #'s 2-4 on his post. I don't believe he was discouraging anyone from using these boards.
See post #4. He hasn't been on in a while. Some may think he was being sarcastic and if that's the case, then fine. I believe that regardless of the question, new and fresh information from experienced people is always a great think. If it is such a nuisance for you to look at repeat thread titles, then maybe you are the problem and not the OP.
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/3230267
See post #4. He hasn't been on in a while. Some may think he was being sarcastic and if that's the case, then fine. I believe that regardless of the question, new and fresh information from experienced people is always a great think. If it is such a nuisance for you to look at repeat thread titles, then maybe you are the problem and not the OP.
Post #4 did not read what the OP was saying either.
And listen my friend,
If it is such a nuisance for you to look at repeat thread titles, then maybe you are the problem and not the OP.
maybe you should look at how many times I have answered the same question on this site. I still think it is a nuisance to do so, but it doesn't stop me so please don't call me a problem.
 

pezenfuego

Active Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3230276
maybe you should look at how many times I have answered the same question on this site. I still think it is a nuisance to do so, but it doesn't stop me so please don't call me a problem.
You have had 473 repeat answers. I'm not talking about people like you. I'm talking about people who post on threads just to complain about how the thread has been repeated. Obviously it isn't a very big nuisance for you considering the fact that you still post.
 

uneverno

Active Member
The semicolon is a useless form of punctuation that could easily and more logically be substituted by a comma or a period. It has no unique contextual or relational value in forming or expressing printed thought.
There is no grammatical definition of a "run on" sentence. If properly punctuated and representative of a complete thought, i.e. including, at a minimum, a subject and a verb, there is no such thing as a run on sentence. The sentence could also include an object (direct, indirect or both), subordinate and/or insubordinate clauses, descriptive words such as adverbs and adjectives, along with sundry other parts of speech including, but not limited to: metaphorical references, alliteration and allegory.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by uneverno
http:///forum/post/3230351
The semicolon is a useless form of punctuation that could easily and more logically be substituted by a comma or a period. It has no unique contextual or relational value in forming or expressing printed thought.
There is no grammatical definition of a "run on" sentence. If properly punctuated and representative of a complete thought, i.e. including, at a minimum, a subject and a verb, there is no such thing as a run on sentence. The sentence could also include an object (direct, indirect or both), subordinate and/or insubordinate clauses, descriptive words such as adverbs and adjectives, along with sundry other parts of speech including, but not limited to: metaphorical references, alliteration and allegory.
Finally a post that relates to this thread
 

pezenfuego

Active Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3230287
%%
Take a joke, Spanky. That is what this thread is all about!
Originally Posted by uneverno

http:///forum/post/3230351
The semicolon is a useless form of punctuation that could easily and more logically be substituted by a comma or a period. It has no unique contextual or relational value in forming or expressing printed thought.
First of all, the stuff in red is nothing more than your opinion. A comma is not a substitution for a semi-colon.
EX: I have two pence; the pence are heavy.
By putting a comma where that semicolon is, you will have a grammatical error known as a comma splice.
The statement that a semicolon could easily be replaced with a period is not completely true.
EX: Their birthdays are January 7, 1990; February 12, 2001; and September 22, 1987.
Using a period or a common rather than the semicolon would be a mistake in super-comma usage.
A semicolon is used for a lot more than just those examples. I assure you that by understanding the use of a semicolon, your ability to write will be vastly increased. As with most incorrect sentences, there are multiple solutions that can be utilized to correct the mistakes. I chose to use a semicolon and was not incorrect in doing so.
There is no grammatical definition of a "run on" sentence. If properly punctuated and representative of a complete thought, i.e. including, at a minimum, a subject and a verb, there is no such thing as a run on sentence. The sentence could also include an object (direct, indirect or both), subordinate and/or insubordinate clauses, descriptive words such as adverbs and adjectives, along with sundry other parts of speech including, but not limited to: metaphorical references, alliteration and allegory.
So basically what you're saying is that I can write an entire book and replace every single period, every exclamation point, and every question mark in the book with a comma and everything would be peachy wonderful and there would be no problem in the competence of the sentence that is the book, also I am curious as to where you found that little nugget of false information about the semicolon, I really have no idea as to how you saying that there is no such thing as a run-on sentence ties into my correction; however, I do not care about any that considering the fact that my intention was not to flaunt his stupidity as I previously stated.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Fibinotchi
http:///forum/post/3229456
I can't help but notice that many people have asked questions that they could easily find themselves on the internet. The saying goes something like, if you give a man a fish, he will not go hungry today, if you teach him to fish, he will never go hungry. I think learning to teach ourselves is valuable and people shouldn't always rely on others to do their homework. I thought I would set up a post with the steps a person could take before posting a thread on a forum.
Step 1- Go to a search engine (i.e. Google, Yahoo) and type the exact question you have in as few words as you can. Read the info for the top 10 or 20 results to see if they will actually answer your question. If they don't...
Step 2- Search for a forum that discusses the topic your interested in(i.e. Saltwaterfish.com message board) by typing forum, questions, answers..... after your topic. When you find the forum....
Step 3
- locate the search tab somewhere on the forum home page and type in the topic that you have questions about, search 2 or 3 pages of results. Try typing the question in different ways, or just use key words that you have a question about. If you still can not find the answer to your question...
Step 4
- Start a thread in the appropriate section of the forum for your question (i.e. what is this in my tank, under hitchhiker I.D. section)
I hope this has helped and not offended anyone because being a smart$%# wasn't my intention. It wasn't that long ago that I was unable to teach myself and relied on someone else to do my homework. I just wanted to pass this information on.

What's the fun in that? I like the site for the conversation, there is nobody around that does saltwater tanks around me. The questions and comments are good company. If this was just an information site, I would glean some info and move on, like I do all the other information sites.
When things go wrong it is really nice to just have folks like Meowzer , Spanko, Bang Guy and Nycbob (and counless others) hold your hand through the mess up and get some reassurance that this too shall pass. A book or information site can't do that.
I love helping others as well.
 
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