I think America needs FOX NEWS!

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
We need to get in the race of finding different energy sources, if not for the enviroment then at least for America's popularity with the rest of the world.
Another question about Iraq, I know we're staying in there to build up their government, but we're basicly sitting ducks. Why don't we spread out or forces in search for terrorist training camps and stuff. One problem I got with the war in Iraq is most of our troops are in Iraq instead of searching for the actual terrorist group that planned 9/11. We do have some, but why not send more troops to that mission? I want to hear the republican pro-war awnser so I thought I'd ask it here.

Where do you want them to search? We're in Afghanistan, we're providing military support in SE Asia, we're supplying military intel to Pakistan (and have offered military support but they have declined. Pres. Musharraf is not powerful enough to overtly accept a US military presence).
Iran and Syria are issues; as well as N. Korea.

 

[mike22cha]

Wow this thread has gone on every topic, from news sources, to global warming, to war on iraq, to the texas/ou rivalary.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by reefraff
Once the terrorists were denied safe haven in Afghanistan they headed for the hills of Pakistan. Personally I think we should just level the area that they are hiding in but people a lot smarter than me that think that would be a bad idea because the extremists that tolertate the terrorists would be enraged by an attack. The way I look at it the radicals the terrorists recruit hate us anyway so why not exterminate the terrorists so the radicals aren't a threat?

Leveling that area would be great short term, but it would get Musharraf overthrown. Remember, Pakistan is a nuclear power. If he gets overthrown bad things occur.

 

[mike22cha]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Where do you want them to search? We're in Afghanistan, we're providing military support in SE Asia, we're supplying military intel to Pakistan (and have offered military support but they have declined. Pres. Musharraf is not powerful enough to overtly accept a US military presence).
Iran and Syria are issues; as well as N. Korea.
I know we are doing are best and searching everywhere, I just thought maybe a little more effort to search from the source may help.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
I guess if there were inocent citizens killed it would enrage the whole Muslim cummonity. If sent in a small cammando unit and were sure of targets, but still Pakistan is one of the things stopping us. But staying in Iraq insures the terrorist know where we will be 24/7 just waiting to get attacked.
Remember they found us pretty well on 9-11.

 

[mike22cha]

What? Of course they did, they attacked us on our ground. Now where in the battlefield, it seems like it has whole different circumstances.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Leveling that area would be great short term, but it would get Musharraf overthrown. Remember, Pakistan is a nuclear power. If he gets overthrown bad things occur.
Oh, I know. Same deal with Iran right now. If there is a way we can avoid blowing the snot out of them we will be much better long term.

 

[hobbes]

Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
Yep. All the teachers at my school can't say one thing positive. They are all republicans. They talk about communism being bad, democrats being bad, abortion being a sin, athesist being bad, gays being bad, the list goes on. We got wackos. My government teacher last year talked about rock and roll being a communist plot, the battle between democrats and republicans a battle between good and evil, and he talked about his teenage glory days protesting at an abortion clinic. My 7th grade science teacher was just as bad and buys only a certain gasoline because it is from south america and he doesn't buy muslim gasoline. I haven't heard one good thing from them like isn't a beautiful day, did you hear the new bill they passed isn't it great!

I could not let this statement go by. No offense but I am not buying this for a second. Unless you are going to private school, the ACLU would be beating down the doors to take those teachers away.

 

[hobbes]

BTW everyone, FoxNews just had another in depth coverage and will have more coverage on the O'Reilly Factor about what is going on with Miss New Jersey and should she keep her crown. WHY IS THIS NEWS!!!! I really wish they would stay away from these stupid stories.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by hobbes
I could not let this statement go by. No offense but I am not buying this for a second. Unless you are going to private school, the ACLU would be beating down the doors to take those teachers away.
Actually, I went to Sam Houston State, I studied economics, most of my profesors were conservatives. Yeah I had a few out there in left field. But they were the phyc teachers or sociology teachers. They were clueless anyway, I had conservative teachers, and they backed up with fact every opinion they expresses and then produced an opposing opinion and the arguments for them as well. It was really interesting.

 

[mike22cha]

Yep it's a private school I believe is basicly owned by the Baptist church. It also used to be a church, the sanctuary is our autorium and they added a lot on.

 

[rabbit_72]

Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
What? Of course they did, they attacked us on our ground. Now where in the battlefield, it seems like it has whole different circumstances.
Yes, the circumstance are way different. The terrorists know where to hide. Heck, they are so darn smart, they could be hiding in the same town as you. They are cunning and evil and think that what they are doing, killing innocent people, is for God. The battlefield is EVERYWHERE. Where do you propose the military goes that they haven't been?

 

[rabbit_72]

Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
Wow this thread has gone on every topic, from news sources, to global warming, to war on iraq, to the texas/ou rivalary.
Yes, all these topics are connected because of the media. And how they cover all these topics and more.
And please remember my aunt doesn't say "birthday", she says "birfday". Yes, it sounds silly, but she's not stupid and she lives in Texas.

 

[mike22cha]

Anyone hear about how there are two terrorist groups called Al Quida? The one we're facing is a different one than the ones that attacked us. Also anyone hear about the Iraqi police officers having a gunfight with US forces? I will find the link, it was in the New York Times and I heard it from a friend so I'll search for it and get it up here.

 

[reefraff]

Al Qeada does in fact claim the terrorists in Iraq as their own. Not sure how much direct contact they reallly have with each other. Contrary to what you might read in the news Al Qaeda is nowhere close to the same strength they were when they hit us in the late 90's and 2001, Still plenty dangerous just the same

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
Anyone hear about how there are two terrorist groups called Al Quida? The one we're facing is a different one than the ones that attacked us. Also anyone hear about the Iraqi police officers having a gunfight with US forces? I will find the link, it was in the New York Times and I heard it from a friend so I'll search for it and get it up here.
That's not really true.
Certain cells are affiliated with different branches of Islam (sunni versus the shiites).
Several of Bin Laden's top buddies have been caught and killed in Iraq so clearly they are the same.
No, didn't hear about the gunfight. Wouldn't be surprised though to hear that the "police" were terrorists disguised as police officers.

 

[nvmycj]

....." CNN does have a couple of good programs like Glen Beck and Lou Dobbs though....."
You totally forgot "Robin in the Mornings"........

 

[nvmycj]

Originally Posted by hobbes
I consider myself pretty conservative (not a republican) but I get a bit tired of Foxnews. Like CNN, so many of their stories seem like soap operas.
God rest her soul but why was it that we needed 24 hour coverage of Anna Nicole Smith? Or Natalie Holloway??? Enough already! This isn't news.
Unfortunately, Fox is the closest thing to a conservative broadcast on tv. CNN does have a couple of good programs like Glen Beck and Lou Dobbs though.

You forgot my favorite CNN program....."Robin & Company!!!" Whew...

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
No, didn't hear about the gunfight. Wouldn't be surprised though to hear that the "police" were terrorists disguised as police officers.

A U.S. warplane made a strike during the raid in mainly Shi'ite east Baghdad after U.S. soldiers came under "heavy and accurate" gunfire from a police checkpoint, rooftops and a church, the military said in a statement.
Seven suspected militants were also killed during the clash, in which U.S. soldiers detained an Iraqi police lieutenant on suspicion of planning roadside bomb and mortar attacks on U.S. forces. The military accused him of links with Iranians accused by Washington of fomenting violence in Iraq.
"When they (U.S. forces) went to arrest this lieutenant, some of the police who were with him began firing on our folks," Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of U.S. military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters in Washington.
"That turned those individuals into enemy and legitimate folks for our troops to take on in combat."
U.S. commanders say elements of the police are infiltrated by sectarian militia, making it harder to restore security and ease tension between majority Shi'ite and minority Sunni Arabs.

 

[mike22cha]

Ya I'm sure everything is getting better in Iraq and Bush's poll numbers are going up.