Im voting republican but BOY is Sarah Palins accent and voice annoying!

hlcroghan

hlcroghan

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You don't think that some of the Iraqi's feel threatened by the fact that we are taking over their country and way of life?? Now, let me just state that I don't agree with our military action being terrorism in any way, but some people who are Muslim and for letting their country alone and to be run how they deem fit may see us as a terrorist influence in forcing them to live a certain way. Our country preaches letting each person believe how they want and live the way they see fit. We are turning around and forcing our personal government down the throats of other countries. Yes, it may be a good way to run a country but it is not the only way and it bothers me a little even though I understand why we did it.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2776703
Nice try but I gave you two well respected publications and a left wing blog site.
You call two political blog sites 'respected publications'? In whose eyes?
Like I said, show me video clips of McCain discussing this issue. The Republicans want to stir the pot with this because the polling numbers on McCain are dropping daily, and they need a useless 'conspiracy theory' to try and change them around. Ayers was a radical anti-war advocate that went overboard with a bunch of his college buddies back in the 60's protesting the Vietnam War. That was over 40 years ago. What has he done since then? Made a stupid comment about believing in his cause after 9-11? Yea, all the "I'm Proud To Be An American" flag wavers sounded off about it, but what physical harm has he done? He's now a respected college professor in a small university in Chicago. Yea, he's a REAL dangerous man. I don't see anyone pulling their kids out of that school because he teaches there. You want to make the guy out like he's the next Bin Laden. If Ayers is all you have on Obama in regards to his lack of patriotism, then you have a pretty weak argument.
 
hlcroghan

hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2776870
You call two political blog sites 'respected publications'? In whose eyes?
Like I said, show me video clips of McCain discussing this issue. The Republicans want to stir the pot with this because the polling numbers on McCain are dropping daily, and they need a useless 'conspiracy theory' to try and change them around. Ayers was a radical anti-war advocate that went overboard with a bunch of his college buddies back in the 60's protesting the Vietnam War. That was over 40 years ago. What has he done since then? Made a stupid comment about believing in his cause after 9-11? Yea, all the "I'm Proud To Be An American" flag wavers sounded off about it, but what physical harm has he done? He's now a respected college professor in a small university in Chicago. Yea, he's a REAL dangerous man. I don't see anyone pulling their kids out of that school because he teaches there. You want to make the guy out like he's the next Bin Laden. If Ayers is all you have on Obama in regards to his lack of patriotism, then you have a pretty weak argument.
Thank you. That is what I have been trying to say about him. Very nicely put. That is my point about Obama. What Ayers did has nothing to do with Obama and his run for presidency now.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2776725
What isn't squeaky clean about her church?
Palin returned donations that totaled about 2,000.00 from two politicians who have been implicated in a scandal. Did Obama return the house he got in a deal from convicted felon Tony Rezko?
There is no trial but the troopergate investigation has reached no conclusions. Even assuming she was found to have did exactly what they claim she did so what? Do you want a man who would tazer his 9 year old step son walking around with a badge and gun?
You do realize that lobbyists can't insert earmarks in a bill, only a member of congress can?
The voters approved a bond issue for a sports complex when Palin was mayor and thanks to her excellent financial stewardship the town is on schedule to repay the bond early

you'll buy anything ... the taser incident was done with training probes and not him shooting his step son w/ a live barb... and I'm not defending the guy at all but he had been disciplined... point is she broke the law and is now saying she isn't cooperating when orginally she said she would.
she says foreign policy means seeing Russia, and she has only been out of the country once, which was recently...
as to earmarks... what did she do with the $180 million she had already recieved for the bridge? Did she give it back... or the millions on the road she built to the bridge...
Everything she is running on isn't exactly accurate... but who cares... what has she done since the nomination... what confidence do you have in her ... how has she shown she is qualified or even understands the issues. In my view she has no credibility due to the result of her 3 interviews and the fact that the McCain campaign has put her on restriction... and that she needs a week to prep for the debate in "Debate Camp" I just don't think she knows what McCain's record and views are ... that might be okay if instead she could share with us her views on Bailout, economy, healthcare...etc instead of BS
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2776875
you'll buy anything ... the taser incident was done with training probes and not him shooting his step son w/ a live barb... and I'm not defending the guy at all but he had been disciplined... point is she broke the law and is now saying she isn't cooperating when orginally she said she would.
You do realize one of the things the guy who ended up getting fired for was not punishing the guy. They put down a ruling, the guy let the trooper off with out serving most of his punishment.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2776869
You don't think that some of the Iraqi's feel threatened by the fact that we are taking over their country and way of life?? Now, let me just state that I don't agree with our military action being terrorism in any way, but some people who are Muslim and for letting their country alone and to be run how they deem fit may see us as a terrorist influence in forcing them to live a certain way. Our country preaches letting each person believe how they want and live the way they see fit. We are turning around and forcing our personal government down the throats of other countries. Yes, it may be a good way to run a country but it is not the only way and it bothers me a little even though I understand why we did it.
Here is what I don't understand with this argument. If a guy is trying to dig a hole with his hands, and we are watching him while leaning on a shovel. And don't show him the shovel and how to use it. What does that say about me?
I don't think you'll disagree that our system of government has propelled us to the most powerful nation in the world. We are the richest. For the most part the most free (is most free right grammer) So why would we sit by and say nope not gonna show you how we did it.
For the most part I don't think if you go into Iraq and say, would you rather live under the Sadaam regime, or a free democracy, where you have an input in government. You'd see them say Sadaam regime.
As far as "not the only way to do it". What are the other options? Communism? Dictatorship? Military run country? Theocracy? Can you think of another successful form of government?
Democracy or a republic has it's faults but I'd take that over any of the above options any day.
 
cowfishrule

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2776860
This is just dang funny. Lets ignore Obama going to a church where the pastor preached that American military action equates to terrorism. After all the pastor doesn't influence people at all.
But when Palin goes to an Assemblies of God church. (not an out of the mainstream church) You get this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_123205.html
the difference between the parties. larry david (r) gets caught foot tapping, and he's to step down. william jefferson (d) gets caught with bribe money in his freezer, and he's still chairman of the comittee.
the left has the advantage, as it controls the tv and most of the print media. what they dont want made public gets back shelved or page 13'd.
its absolutely deplorable what they've done to sarah palin.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2776835
.... I have a problem because she does not know what she is doing. She can't speak in public about important issues without sounding confused and saying Uhhh, and Oh I will find that and bring it to you. She is too inexperienced to be in the VP position. ....
Change the word "she" to "he" and you've described Obama...
*No experience
*No foreign policy or travel
*No executive decisions
*Says things like "that's above my pay grade" when asked difficult questions
*Has the record for the most times voting "present"
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2776869
You don't think that some of the Iraqi's feel threatened by the fact that we are taking over their country and way of life?? Now, let me just state that I don't agree with our military action being terrorism in any way, but some people who are Muslim and for letting their country alone and to be run how they deem fit may see us as a terrorist influence in forcing them to live a certain way. Our country preaches letting each person believe how they want and live the way they see fit. We are turning around and forcing our personal government down the throats of other countries. Yes, it may be a good way to run a country but it is not the only way and it bothers me a little even though I understand why we did it.
The Iraqi's I've met here in Baghdad certainly don't feel we're "taking over there country"

Have you looked at a map of Iraq recently and seen the number of provinces under complete control of the Iraqi Democratically elected Government?
The only ones who are over here saying we are taking over are the ones shooting at us and blowing up markets full of civilians...
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2776875
you'll buy anything ... the taser incident was done with training probes and not him shooting his step son w/ a live barb... and I'm not defending the guy at all but he had been disciplined... point is she broke the law and is now saying she isn't cooperating when orginally she said she would.
What law did she break exactly?
Originally Posted by rylan
she says foreign policy means seeing Russia, and she has only been out of the country once, which was recently...
So her and Obama are equal on that score... Let's face it; Obama, an avid opponent of the war, visited the warzone less than the First Daughters...
Originally Posted by Obama
as to earmarks... what did she do with the $180 million she had already recieved for the bridge? Did she give it back... or the millions on the road she built to the bridge...
Let's talk about the 1 BILLION in earmarks Obama asked for in the few short years he as in the Senate...
Originally Posted by Obama
Everything she is running on isn't exactly accurate... but who cares... what has she done since the nomination... what confidence do you have in her ... how has she shown she is qualified or even understands the issues.
You first... What has Obama done in the time he has been a US Senator? What has he done besides give pretty speeches?
 
gonefishcrazy

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Poor Sarah Palin.
A voter asks her about Pakistan and McCain says its gotcha journalism
A voter asks her about foreign policies in a town hall meeting and she blames the media.
Im so tired of hearing about poor Sarah Palin.Poor Sarah Palin.
Every candidate has went through scrutiny.
You first hear about a candidate two months before an election and the McCain campaign declines to let media do interview or let voters ask questions.
Its amazing how bias the right is about this whole thing.
How can a person in their right mind think Sarah Palin is ready to be vp or president?
I felt sorry for her for a split second the other day when she could'nt finish her sentence and the other embarrassing answers she gave but then my mind went right back to her convention speech.
This lady doesnt know anything about the economy,
She doesnt know anything about foreign policies,
She doesnt know anything about the supreme court,
She doesnt even know anything about McCain but that he's a maverick.
Its ok Republicans, say what you have to say to justify why you believe the Palin/McCain campaign is better, but dont expect others to shut down our brain.
There's nothing wrong with being Pro Life but I have a problem when it includes ---- or

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rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by COWFISHRULE
http:///forum/post/2776905
the difference between the parties. larry david (r) gets caught foot tapping, and he's to step down. william jefferson (d) gets caught with bribe money in his freezer, and he's still chairman of the comittee.
the left has the advantage, as it controls the tv and most of the print media. what they dont want made public gets back shelved or page 13'd.
its absolutely deplorable what they've done to sarah palin.
that foot tapper initially fought to stay on and not to resign... wasn't until public pressure made him do it.
as far as Jefferson... not sure if he's been convicted yet... but hopefully if he is still on now... his constituients won't vote for him.
 
gonefishcrazy

gonefishcrazy

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Obama have been out of the country more than once. Sarah Palins earmark is not any better. Nobody would even be talking about earmarks if she did not lie about the earmarks. If McCain did not say she sold the plane on ---- nobody would even be discussing the plane. If she was not billing the state for money while she was living her house then people wont talk about that. If she would just name one newspaper people wont laugh. If she talked about the bailout instead of healthcare then people would not question her. If she knew something about what McCain reformed then it wont make the press. If she did not tell people she told congress thanks but no thanks for the bridge to nowhere then people wont think she was a joke. If she did not tell people because she can see Russia from Alaska that means she has foreign experience people it wont be a joke. If she had 20 percent knowledge about anything to do with anything outside of Alaska then she might be on higher grounds.
Did anybody saw the clip from the primary elections when the reporter asked about Hillary and sexism, she said Hillary was whining and that all Hillary needed to do was step up her game? Or the clip when she asked whats the job of a Vice President? Give me a break.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2776985
This lady doesnt know anything about the economy,
She doesnt know anything about foreign policies,
She doesnt know anything about the supreme court,
She doesnt even know anything about McCain but that he's a maverick.
There's nothing wrong with being Pro Life but I have a problem when it includes ---- or

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Why do you think this?
2nd I think in the coric interview she hit the abortion topic quite well.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2776988
that foot tapper initially fought to stay on and not to resign... wasn't until public pressure made him do it.
as far as Jefferson... not sure if he's been convicted yet... but hopefully if he is still on now... his constituients won't vote for him.
Wasn't there a democratic senator that once killed a girl by driving drunk and getting in an accident...then fled the scene? Wonder what reprecussions he faced.....just wish I could find out what punishment he faced and how long he was in office for..........
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2776975
What law did she break exactly?
So her and Obama are equal on that score... Let's face it; Obama, an avid opponent of the war, visited the warzone less than the First Daughters...
Let's talk about the 1 BILLION in earmarks Obama asked for in the few short years he as in the Senate...
You first... What has Obama done in the time he has been a US Senator? What has he done besides give pretty speeches?
I am not saying Obama didn't ask for earmarks ... the difference however is his campaign's champion cause is not earmarks.... as McCain's is. Palin has gotten more earmarks per capita than any other state.
Second, Palin has showed she is not yet prepared to be 2nd in charge.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2777026
Wasn't there a democratic senator that once killed a girl by driving drunk and getting in an accident...then fled the scene? Wonder what reprecussions he faced.....just wish I could find out what punishment he faced and how long he was in office for..........
God struck him down with brain cancer...
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2777026
Wasn't there a democratic senator that once killed a girl by driving drunk and getting in an accident...then fled the scene? Wonder what reprecussions he faced.....just wish I could find out what punishment he faced and how long he was in office for..........
who cares? what does this have to do w/ Palin and abuse of her power?
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2777028
Second, Palin has showed she is not yet prepared to be 2nd in charge.
Rylan this is my problem with your arguments. And well libs arguments in general.
You just say this stuff, like Palin has showed she is not yet prepared to be 2nd in charge But don't say a single reason why. And if you do it is backed up by statements like "most economists" or "most experts" and then turn around and refuse or ignore requests for you to site your "most economists".
 
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