Katsafado's first ever 10g SW tank(nano)

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by Katsafados
http:///forum/post/3056117
I was thinking of doing it but wont it kill most of my bacteria colony in the filter if i wash them out?
Ha! You have just stumbled upon the contradiction on using canister filters and them becoming the evil "nitrate factory"!
The concern you have here is valid, leaving the media untouched in the filter has let it become part of your biofilter as well as mechanical. So when you actually do clean it now you have reduced your biofiltration capacity.
Mechanical filters must be cleaned often to avoid this, and to let the tank, rocks, sand and other surfaces house the biofilter.
In my tank the mechanical filters are the skimmer and a tray with filter floss and a sponge just before the return pump. (note that there are some chemical filters like Chemi Pure, Purigen, Phosphate pad but their cleaning schedule is different). I clean the skimmer out every two weeks, I change the filter floss every day.
Now does this relate to your ammonia concern, probably not as to me it would seem you ammonia would be zero but you may see nitrate values upon testing. Not sure what test kit you are using but could your comparison of the test sample to the control chart be skewed enough that you see .25 instead of zero? Cannot get straight in my mind that you would have the biofilter to bring the ammonia value down to zero then it would raise back up again with no bioload in your tank and after the tank being up for as long as it is.
 

meowzer

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I'm sorry...I was in a rush earlier....I was not implying that by cleaning you filter it will affect the ammonia.....I was really just saying that you should clean your filter periodically
 

katsafados

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Yeah I know you need to clean your filter every once in a while, but I havent had a need to clean it since theres no fish in it so other tahn maybe some sand in it theres nothing else.
The only reason the ammonia level went to zero before was because I tested the water right after doing a 20% water change so the ammonia got diluted and after 2 days it was back to the .25. My Nitrates are in the safe zone since there only at 2.5 and I've never had nitrites since testing. So it seems that the bacteria that breaks down ammonia in to trites arent up to par but the bacteria that breaks trites into ates are high(since no nitrites have been present).
Also there are some critters in my tank such as snails bristle worms and one baby brittle star(might be dead) which came with the cheatto and are hanging out in my fuge. Do you think they can contribute to the ammonia since they do have to poop sometimes
? But then again even before I got the cheatto the ammonia was stuck at the .25. So who knows haha
and im using the red sea marine lab test kit.
 

katsafados

Active Member
I already thought that I might have been seeing green(.25) instead of yellow(0) when testing ammonia, so now I get 2 or 3 people to tell me the colour everytime I test it and they all say greenish right away or inbetween rather than just yellow.
 

katsafados

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me either but lets see what spanko the expert has to say haha.
BTW I've got a great bloom of coraline algae, and what looks to be some seeding since theres lime green spots on my rocks which I read is the starting styage of coraline growing.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Katsafados
http:///forum/post/3056486
me either but lets see what spanko the expert has to say haha.
BTW I've got a great bloom of coraline algae, and what looks to be some seeding since theres lime green spots on my rocks which I read is the starting styage of coraline growing.
GEEZ...It took forever for mine to start...and i still don't have A LOT
 

spanko

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Is this the procedure you follow?
Directions for Ammonia Test Lab
1. Check and write down pH and temperature of the aquarium water you wish to test.
2. Fill a clean test tube with 3 ml of water to be tested (to the 3 ml line on the tube).
3. Rapidly add 11 drops of Ammonia Reagent A. Immediately close the test tube with the stopper and shake vigorously for 10 seconds.
4. Open the test tube and add 4 drops of Ammonia Reagent B. Close it with the stopper and shake gently for 10 seconds.
5. Open the test tube and add 4 drops of Ammonia Reagent C. Close it with the stopper and shake gently for 10 seconds.
6. Wait 15 minutes for the color to fully develop.
7. Compare the color with the color scale by holding the test tube in a vertical position, 8" from a white background.
8. Read off the ppm value of the color that is closest to the sample in the test tube. This is a measure of the total dissolved ammonia level.
9. Use the table on the directions that come with the test kit to calculate the level of toxic ammonia. For marine aquariums, and reading of 0.25 ppm of total ammonia indicates a toxic level.
10. Rinse the test tube with clean water after each use.
Number 9 is what seems strange to me. You have to do some calculation to get to a toxicity level?
 

katsafados

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Yeah I read those instructions the other day and I didnt really understand the chart and toxic level stuff(number 9)
on the chart a ph of 8 and a temp of 79 gives you 5.8(my tank parameters)
the example the book gives you is:
1. if you measure a ph of 8.4 and a temp of 26c
2. table give you 14% toxic ammonia(in my case 5.8%)
3. you have measured a total ammonia level of 1ppm(in my case 0.25)
4 the toxic ammonia level is 14% of 1 mg per L = 1x14/100=0.14ppm therefore level is toxic to fish(in my case 1x5.8/100 = 0.058 ppm is this toxic???)
step 10. which doesnt make sence to me indicated that "any reading of 0.25ppm of total ammonia indicated a level of toxic ammonia of at least 0.01ppm which will have a negative effect on fish."
When I tested my water at the LFS the guy said it had no ammonia no nitrites and a hint of nitrates. But he used the dip sticks(which people say are inaccurate) and did multiple tests.
 

katsafados

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3056489
GEEZ...It took forever for mine to start...and i still don't have A LOT


Yeah I dont understand I have the ditiamsjdkk(forget how to spell it or even say it haha), coraline algae bloom, and the copods growing on my glass(I think there copods there little white specs all over the glass) and everything seems to be going good and what not, Yet I have this damn ammonia that wont go away
 

katsafados

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3056727
Maybe you need a new test kit...I add a coupld of drops...shake and DONE
See I dont know if I need a new test kit because I saw the nice yellow colour after that water change the other day, so that means the ammonia test is working fine and maybe the calculation can tell us soemthing but I dont know how to extrapolate the results haha.

P.s does anyone know what the spiderweb like things are on the LR Ive seen many posts about people asking what it is but no one seems to know. Its starting to develop on a pice of LR I have thats encrusted in coraline and some sort of twig like branches(looks like old dead anenomies(colours brown)).
 

katsafados

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I use my cellphone cam and its a piece of ---- haha I tried to get a pic. Its exactly what I said it looks like a bunch of spider webs comming out of my LR. Not worms just thread like spider web looking things. I wish I could find the thread that someone asked about it but I forget where I saw it
 

katsafados

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the only moving they do is from my power heads. I doubt there worms at all they look like a discharge almost and there deff not tubes at all. They look exactly like spiderwebs 100%, and no its not that worm that goes fishing with the web.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Katsafados
http:///forum/post/3056798
the only moving they do is from my power heads. I doubt there worms at all they look like a discharge almost and there deff not tubes at all. They look exactly like spiderwebs 100%, and no its not that worm that goes fishing with the web.
IDK what worm you are talking about....BUT I also don't recognize what you are describing either...
 

spanko

Active Member
Spaghetti worm or vermetid snail. If you know what those are, and what you have is not that then I would think some type of sponge. Maybe like this?

Or this
 
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