Killer Whale Lives up to his name...

king_neptune

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I jsut read that link carefully.
It claims 2 deaths, and a few other links I read from thelocal papers also claim 2x.
Guess ABC was wrong.
Makes my close call story related to a different whale.Like I said, I wasn't sure, it was a long time ago. I do know this isn't the first bad whale story in captivity. Maybe I can find some other articles.
 
oceankid

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Even how much we train them they are still animals who has killer instinct, and we do not know what are they thinking...
 
bang guy

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3234955
Only animal on the planet other than man that has been seen killing for sport. I wouldn't want to get close to one.
That's gotta be a myth. My cat kills for sport almost every day. I've seen dogs do it as well. I doubt I'm the only person to ever see this behaviour.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/3235758
That's gotta be a myth. My cat kills for sport almost every day. I've seen dogs do it as well. I doubt I'm the only person to ever see this behaviour.
I've never seen a cat take out a mouse or bird they didn't eat but now you are talking domesticated animals. I have never heard of wolves or lions doing it.
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3235761
I've never seen a cat take out a mouse or bird they didn't eat but now you are talking domesticated animals. I have never heard of wolves or lions doing it.
I'll admit I've never seen Lions do it. Do Coyotes count?
I just can't believe I'm the only person to see a cat toy with a mouse until it stopped moving and then wander off to the next victim.
 
meowzer

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3235761
I've never seen a cat take out a mouse or bird they didn't eat but now you are talking domesticated animals. I have never heard of wolves or lions doing it.
I have seen a cat do that....I had an outdoor cat that would kill birds or mouse (or rats ICK) and bring them to the front step as a gift to us
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3235771
I have seen a cat do that....I had an outdoor cat that would kill birds or mouse (or rats ICK) and bring them to the front step as a gift to us

In South Florida, cat's specialities for "gifts" are brown anoles. Nothing like finding dead lizards in the house....
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/3235770
I'll admit I've never seen Lions do it. Do Coyotes count?
I just can't believe I'm the only person to see a cat toy with a mouse until it stopped moving and then wander off to the next victim.
I've never seen nor heard of Coyotes killing for no reason. They might or might not take down the prey for food, they will also do it for territorial reasons. If you leave the mouse (yuck) the cat will usually come back to it.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3235804
In South Florida, cat's specialities for "gifts" are brown anoles. Nothing like finding dead lizards in the house....
My parents had their cat drop what was either a small rat or a big mouse in bed with them. They weren't sure what it was because it wasn't dead
 
alyssia

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/3235770
I'll admit I've never seen Lions do it. Do Coyotes count?
I just can't believe I'm the only person to see a cat toy with a mouse until it stopped moving and then wander off to the next victim.
You aren't the only one. Our outdoor cat gets snakes, moles, toads, mice, and birds and doesn't eat them. He would just leave them to rot if we didn't clean them up
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3235813
I've never seen nor heard of Coyotes killing for no reason. They might or might not take down the prey for food, they will also do it for territorial reasons. If you leave the mouse (yuck) the cat will usually come back to it.
Yeah, it will come back with another mouse for the pile.
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by alyssia
http:///forum/post/3235842
You aren't the only one. Our outdoor cat gets snakes, moles, toads, mice, and birds and doesn't eat them. He would just leave them to rot if we didn't clean them up


A well fed cat won't eat the critter it plays with. The fun is in the chase. Some cats will pretend to let a mouse go, only to pounce and recapture it, that’s why some critters play dead, in hopes the eater will just get bored and leave them to escape. The more they fight the more hurt/dead they are when the game ends.
Cats can't be the only ones that do this, or there wouldn't be so many animals that play dead and hope to escape. They learn the behavior of playing dead for survivals sake.
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3235885

A well fed cat won't eat the critter it plays with. The fun is in the chase. Some cats will pretend to let a mouse go, only to pounce and recapture it, that’s why some critters play dead, in hopes the eater will just get bored and leave them to escape. The more they fight the more hurt/dead they are when the game ends.
Cats can't be the only ones that do this, or there wouldn't be so many animals that play dead and hope to escape. They learn the behavior of playing dead for survivals sake.
That's an interesting observation. I can believe that's true.
 
florida joe

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What to do with a 12,000-pound killer whale that is famous for being the world's most potent captive orca stud and infamous for the deaths of three people?
The fate of Tilikum has been debated since Wednesday, when he attacked Dawn Brancheau, a 40-year-old SeaWorld Orlando trainer who spent 14 years working with killer whales. As spectators watched, Tilikum grabbed her by her ponytail in knee-deep water, pulled her into his tank and drowned her.
SeaWorld suspended orca shows Thursday in Orlando and San Diego but indicated that Tilikum will resume most of his usual activities. It did not say he would take part in shows, but said Tilikum will remain with the park's other orcas — several of which he sired — and continue to work with trainers.
A Humane Society expert said a return to "business as usual" is "terribly disappointing"
''It will happen again," said Naomi Rose, a senior marine mammal scientist for the Humane Society who knew Tilikum when he killed a trainer in British Columbia in 1991.
''It's not a question of if. It's a question of when. This is his normal behavior. It's what he does when someone falls in the wate
 
braydonosu

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From my understanding (Discovery/Nat Geo shows and the like - not really the best sources I know) all members of the dolphin family are very smart and love to play. Biologists have witnessed Orcas and dolphins playing with sea birds and seals by tossing them in the air and dragging them around much the same that a dog plays with a chew toy. There have also been accounts of dolphins ramming people in the wild and in closed pools, but science has proven that this is a natural "play" behavior that they exhibit. In all of these "attack on human" cases IMO the animals are just playing and do not realize that their playmate is a human that is many times smaller. There is no "killer instinct"
Now what does Sea World do tho? They can either put him down, release him (which will ultimately end up in his dealth since he most likely will not be able to hunt - see Keiko from Free Willy) or put him in a huge pool and let him live ou this days producing more Shamu attractions.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/3235876
Yeah, it will come back with another mouse for the pile.
When we would have a new kitten and it would do that my mom would tell us to leave the mouse so the cat would learn to eat the kill. I don't know if they came back for it every time. We had one catch a toad. I can't believe it kept that in its mouth long enough to bring it in the house.
 
mrdc

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SeaWorld officials affirmed the giant orca would not be punished, but that all trainers would be kept out of the tanks until a review can be completed.
Not punished huh? How the heck do you punish an Orca?
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3235989
SeaWorld officials affirmed the giant orca would not be punished, but that all trainers would be kept out of the tanks until a review can be completed.
Not punished huh? How the heck do you punish an Orca?
No Xbox for a week

It sounds like the trainer messed up. She wasn't supposed to be in the water but had laid on a step at the edge of the pool and let her pony tail float in the water. Whale grabbed the pony and pulled her to the bottom.
 
florida joe

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3235990
No Xbox for a week

It sounds like the trainer messed up. She wasn't supposed to be in the water but had laid on a step at the edge of the pool and let her pony tail float in the water. Whale grabbed the pony and pulled her to the bottom.
IMO that is the key. i have in fact witnessed the show with the trainer who tragically lost her life. My uneducated theory is this. When rewarding him she would dangle a fish at the surface of the water. He may have very well thought her ponytail was a fish grabbed it and pulled her into the water. once in he was playing with her as a child would play with a toy
 
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