Lebron James....need any more attention?

kjr_trig

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Nobody can win a title, or even be good without a good supporting cast. Look at the Lakers the few years after Fat Shaq left, they were average even with the best player in the league....Kobe needed support.
Amare can't save the Knicks
Miami has a lot of potential with Bosh and Wade, but they need some quality role players now.
Chicago with Rose and now Boozer are championship contenders if they get Lebron.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3285058
One word for ya, Wilt. Nuff Said
Wilt The Stilt was indeed a player for the times. No one has still been able to match his 100 point game. However, his game was one-dimensional. You hardly saw anyone dunk a ball until he played the game. Ball in the 60's was completely different than how the game was played during Jordan's prime. Jordan was a more all-around player.
 

crypt keeper

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I hurt your feelings enough. Dont get me started with your all knowing knowledge of your local sports and all. Please tell me how Soccer is no more Athletic than baskestball? Id love to see a Soccer player step on the court for 10 minutes. They wouldnt drop a shot or even get a rebound. Samething can be said for a Basketball player on a soccer field. To compare to two and say one is less athletic than the other is a ignorant statement.
I know you're dense But Wilbons article has everything to do with the conversation at hand why Lebron is taking the time he is taking. Im sorry you cant read well enough to grasp that concept and understand the implied message.
Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/3285041
Are you drunk? What on earth are you talking about?
Seriously, what does this have to do with anything?
This is not as random as the stuff Crypt was rambling, but what does this have to do with anything? Pippen only averaged over 20 points a game 3 times in his career, and never averaged more than 22...I.E., he was an awesome all around player, but not a big scorer, that's what I think Lebron would prefer.
 

crypt keeper

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So Inner city kids cant get the grades yet NBA requires college before entering the draft. Hmmmm. Thats been going on for a couple years. Ever heard of something called the NCAA Clearing House. Bet ya havent. Bet ya dont have an athletic bone in your body so it never mattered for you. The NCAA Clearing House is required to play any sport in college at any level. It has 100% to do with gardes and boards. Oh those are test scores. So those meal tickets are now earned. Now you just look dumb and a bigot. Thats right I said it. You group and entire group of kids regardless of color and said they are uneducated and just want a silver spoon placed in their mouth. Keep up the good work. Obviously having a real conversation with you is impossible.
Also Please go back and qoute me where I said Lebron is good. I didnt. Stop trying to win an argument that didnt exist.
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3285042
Soccer is stamina and nothing else?
Man are you clueless.
Yea, inner city kids play ball since their four because they're incapable of getting an education, and want that 'golden ticket' that a sports contract can provide. Lebron James is the most overrated basketball player currently playing. Sure his stats are good. That's because he thinks he's the only player capable of moving the ball on the Cavs team. I hope he does go to another team that actually has a quality bench. Then you'll see how the guy is nothing more than a sub-par player.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/3285086
So Inner city kids cant get the grades yet NBA requires college before entering the draft. Hmmmm. Thats been going on for a couple years. Ever heard of something called the NCAA Clearing House. Bet ya havent. Bet ya dont have an athletic bone in your body so it never mattered for you. The NCAA Clearing House is required to play any sport in college at any level. It has 100% to do with gardes and boards. Oh those are test scores. So those meal tickets are now earned. Now you just look dumb and a bigot. Thats right I said it. You group and entire group of kids regardless of color and said they are uneducated and just want a silver spoon placed in their mouth. Keep up the good work. Obviously having a real conversation with you is impossible.
Also Please go back and qoute me where I said Lebron is good. I didnt. Stop trying to win an argument that didnt exist.
Your ignorance is showing dude. Do you want me to list the number of NBA players who don't even have a college degree? Let's see, Bryant, Darryl Dawkins, Moses Malone, and Kevin Garnett went into the NBA straight out of HIGH SCHOOL. Stating that many professional players in football and basketball came from poor families and barely didn't make it through high school isn't bigotry, it's a statement of fact. What, you think these guys are all highly educated individuals who could've walk out of high school and gone to Harvard?

So exactly what is your argument? What position exactly are you trying to defend?
 

oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/3284929
Here is a good analogy for your haters. Lets say you work for company X and do a hell of a job. You grew in the company proved yourself. Lets say its based in North Carolina. Then 5 companies call. They offer X amount of money more than you are making now. 1 company is in New York. The other California. The other Florida. One is Overseas. Are you gonna decide in 1 night? Probably not. You need to move sell your house. Look at neighborhoods. Find the right schools for your kids. You have CEO's calling you asking you whats up. Does that make you a bad person? NO. Minus the Media what the hell is the difference? This guys has a life changing decision to make. Is it His fault that people are willing to pay $100,000,000. Again Out on a limb here. I'm going to say NO! I wanna see which Hypocrite who has posted here wouldn't take that kind of money. You would be a complete fool not too.
I don't "hate" LeBron, he seems a nice enough guy, but enough is enough. Don't we have bigger problems? What about the salary double standard where it's "ok" for celebs and sports stars to make millions, but a CEO, corporation or physician can't. If I have a nice house, I'm and evil rich doctor in today's world, yet someone like Lebron whose car costs more than my house is worshiped as "King James"?
Seems we're just about where Rome was with our modern gladiators just before the fall.
Not LeBron's fault, but ours?..... Something to think about.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/3285085
I hurt your feelings enough. Dont get me started with your all knowing knowledge of your local sports and all. Please tell me how Soccer is no more Athletic than baskestball? Id love to see a Soccer player step on the court for 10 minutes. They wouldnt drop a shot or even get a rebound. Samething can be said for a Basketball player on a soccer field. To compare to two and say one is less athletic than the other is a ignorant statement.
I know you're dense But Wilbons article has everything to do with the conversation at hand why Lebron is taking the time he is taking. Im sorry you cant read well enough to grasp that concept and understand the implied message.
You keep sticking your foot in your mouth. It takes twice the stamina to play a 90 minute soccer match than it does four quarters of basketball. I'd love to see ANY basketball player try to manipulate a soccer ball with their head and feet like professional soccer players do. Anyone can walk onto a basketball court and shoot a ball through the hoop. Ever see the stats of a soccer player? You think they're all just little 5 foot runts? Most goalies are between 6'2" and 6'5" in height. Like I said before, there's a Mexico player that can run up to 20MPH. If him and Lebron started at the end line of a basketball court and ran to the opposite end goal, the soccer player would be standing under the basket taking a granny shot before Lebron hit the mid-court line.
 

bionicarm

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Here's a funny rumor I just heard on my local news -- Shaq is contemplating coming back 'home' and finishing his career with the Spurs! Yea, he graduated from Cole High School here because of his father's stint in the military. Not sure if he'd fit into Popovich's coaching style, but having a big man like him coming off the bench with Tim, Parker, and Manu on the court could put the Spurs back into contention. Who needs 'King James'?
 

aquaknight

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My personal opinion could be summed up by a great Ice-T lyric, 'Don't hate the player, hate the game.' If there wasn't a market big enough for ESPN to profit from airing that hour long Lebron decision, trust me, ESPN wouldn't air it. If anyone doesn't like how much sports stars are making, or how much ticket prices are, just stop going. The laws of economy certainly apply very well to sports.
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/3285096
I don't "hate" LeBron, he seems a nice enough guy, but enough is enough. Don't we have bigger problems? What about the salary double standard where it's "ok" for celebs and sports stars to make millions, but a CEO, corporation or physician can't. If I have a nice house, I'm and evil rich doctor in today's world, yet someone like Lebron whose car costs more than my house is worshiped as "King James"?
Seems we're just about where Rome was with our modern gladiators just before the fall.
Not LeBron's fault, but ours?..... Something to think about.
I think there is perhaps some "LeBron is one of us" mentality. Those people who vitrify CEO's don't see themselves/their children (more specifically) ever becoming CEOs. But it's quite easy to hope that your son's a sports great. There is also a lot of "lotto" mentality, and hitting the jackpot and becoming a sports star (which isn't exactly true).
Originally Posted by bionicarm

http:///forum/post/3285097
You keep sticking your foot in your mouth. It takes twice the stamina to play a 90 minute soccer match than it does four quarters of basketball. I'd love to see ANY basketball player try to manipulate a soccer ball with their head and feet like professional soccer players do. Anyone can walk onto a basketball court and shoot a ball through the hoop. Ever see the stats of a soccer player? You think they're all just little 5 foot runts? Most goalies are between 6'2" and 6'5" in height. Like I said before, there's a Mexico player that can run up to 20MPH. If him and Lebron started at the end line of a basketball court and ran to the opposite end goal, the soccer player would be standing under the basket taking a granny shot before Lebron hit the mid-court line.

What in the world are we arguing? Every sport requires a specialized set of skills. It's plainly obvious that no 7 foot 300lb giant can dance around a soccer field for 90 minutes. Speed? Starting at the goalline of a [real] football field, I bet Chris Johnson of the Tennessee Titans could get to the 50yd line before that "20mph" soccer play gets to the 35. I'd like to see the biggest soccer player stop a Dwight Howard drive to the hole, or take an elbow to the head from Superman.
I'd like to see [insert athlete here] take a shot over the top from Polamalu, after reaching up for a high pass, and not have their heads ripped off.
 

reefraff

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If you are getting into which sport requires the most stamina soccer wouldn't be a bad guess. Rugby looks like a beast too but my guess would be the guys who do the long distance swimming.
Trying to argue which sports athletes would do best in another sport is ridiculous. It depends on the individual.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3285147
If you are getting into which sport requires the most stamina soccer wouldn't be a bad guess. Rugby looks like a beast too but my guess would be the guys who do the long distance swimming.
Trying to argue which sports athletes would do best in another sport is ridiculous. It depends on the individual.
The entire point I was trying to make is that crypt makes it sound like Basketball is the 'top-tiered/Number 1" team sport played today. My contention is that it's nothing but a bunch of overrated tall guys who learned how to bounce and dunk a ball on a court. Sure there is athleticism in the game, and requires a special talent, but it's just another team sport.
 

crypt keeper

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I said football is the top tier sport. American style. Soccer is all about stamina. Many pro players have been clocked runnung at almost 30 mph. My brother who is a D1 football player has been 24mph.
 

kjr_trig

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Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/3285085
I hurt your feelings enough. Dont get me started with your all knowing knowledge of your local sports and all. Please tell me how Soccer is no more Athletic than baskestball? Id love to see a Soccer player step on the court for 10 minutes. They wouldnt drop a shot or even get a rebound. Samething can be said for a Basketball player on a soccer field. To compare to two and say one is less athletic than the other is a ignorant statement.
I know you're dense But Wilbons article has everything to do with the conversation at hand why Lebron is taking the time he is taking. Im sorry you cant read well enough to grasp that concept and understand the implied message.
I just asked if you had a few drinks because your last post was incohearant even by your standards. All sports take different skills, most baketball players would not make great soccer players and vice versa. Good athletes gravitate toward the sport that suits them best after trying different sports.
 

kjr_trig

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Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/3285163
I said football is the top tier sport. American style. Soccer is all about stamina. Many pro players have been clocked runnung at almost 30 mph. My brother who is a D1 football player has been 24mph.
Just keep playing Dungeons and Dragons with your snakes in the basement Crypt...I've played about every sport you can name competitively including soccer, again, they all require a different skill set. To say Soccer is only about stamina shows your lack of knowledge about athletics. Being a linebacker (for example) requires far less "skill" than soccer, you need to be big, athletic, and aggressive to be a good linebacker, all other "skills" are secondary comparitively.
 

bionicarm

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Reports now are saying James is heading to Miami. Unfortunately, that means we'll have to hear MiaHtLvr toot his horn the entire basketball season about how great 'his' team will dominate the league.
 

reefraff

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Hard to say if that is a good or bad move. Going to Miami would be a serious ego check which would speak well of the boy. I think he goes to New York or stays in Cleavland.
 

kjr_trig

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3285196
Hard to say if that is a good or bad move. Going to Miami would be a serious ego check which would speak well of the boy. I think he goes to New York or stays in Cleavland.
That was what I was thinking, I just can't imagine he wants to hear "never won without Wade" for the rest of his career.
 

mrdc

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Just saw that he has made his decision and will announce where he is going tonight. Guess they are going to make a big thing out of it tonight. I will just turn the tv off.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3285124
Here's a funny rumor I just heard on my local news -- Shaq is contemplating coming back 'home' and finishing his career with the Spurs! Yea, he graduated from Cole High School here because of his father's stint in the military. Not sure if he'd fit into Popovich's coaching style, but having a big man like him coming off the bench with Tim, Parker, and Manu on the court could put the Spurs back into contention. Who needs 'King James'?

Shaq still plays professional basket ball? lol, I thought he'd retired years ago...
So let me get this straight, ESPN is doing a show where Lebron will announce what team he goes to? Now that is just funny.
 
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