Makes me wonder....

mantisman51

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Just a quick aside, I bought 5-2 acre lots at the county tax auction 3 years ago and the gun range was on one of the lots. I paid a whopping $475 for each one of the lots. It's all good land, only 8 miles out of Bisbee. So the gun range was an unexpected bonus. I was just buying "cheap" land for my hermit lifestyle.
 

oscardeuce

Active Member
Great!
I need that too
The hermit lifestyle looking better
Waiting almost 5 months so far on a form 4 from ATF/NFA. I hope I get it before I die.
Will check out the auctions
 

reefraff

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Birthday party at the gun range is a really good idea. Kids who understand guns are a lot safer around them than the offspring of paranoid dufuses who just think they are something on TV that make noise.
 

mantisman51

Active Member
When I was a very tiny kid-around 4, my Dad took me out with him and my brothers to hunt rabbits. When I heard the "pow" and saw the rabbits bleed and die, I knew that a gun was not something to play with. And I never touched one of my Dad's 20 or so guns unless he told me I could and was with me until I reached about 13. They weren't toys to me. But the reason a anti-gun nut would object is because when someone is raised around guns, they don't fear them and join the anti-gun crusade. And we all know lefty brain-washing is their primary goal.
 

darthtang aw

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Here ya go!  Move to Dallas, and have a abng-up birthday party for the youngins'.  Hope they don't discriminate and let the girls play too...
http://www.ksat.com/news/New-gun-range-to-host-birthday-parties-for-kids/-/478452/14591758/-/ht0m4x/-/index.html
My son is deciding whether his birthday party is going to be at the archery range or the gun range. You act like this is a bad thing? Since when is educating our children a bad thing? Oh, I am sorry...you prefer chucky cheese and Mcdonalds...Nothing like a slab of processed meat between some bread with a side of grease to compliment your childs birth.
You claim to own guns, yet every instance of education of guns to children in a controlled environment you ridicule. Interesting.You own them, you just don't want anyone else owning or using them.
You know...you are the most hypocritical person I have ever encountered. Your ideology applies to everyone else, except yourself. Interesting.
 

darthtang aw

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OK, so which one of you has been on this reality show...
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/
Show me one civilization that did not come to a violent and bloddy end, And I will call these guys stupid with you. Until that time...I see know reason why people shouldn't prepare for the worst. It is called smart...something some liberal regions of the country should look into more. Then you wont have to rely on Fema.......
 

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/20#post_3477559
My son is deciding whether his birthday party is going to be at the archery range or the gun range. You act like this is a bad thing? Since when is educating our children a bad thing? Oh, I am sorry...you prefer chucky cheese and Mcdonalds...Nothing like a slab of processed meat between some bread with a side of grease to compliment your childs birth.
You claim to own guns, yet every instance of education of guns to children in a controlled environment you ridicule. Interesting.You own them, you just don't want anyone else owning or using them.
You know...you are the most hypocritical person I have ever encountered. Your ideology applies to everyone else, except yourself. Interesting.
WAAHHHH! I have no problems with young kids learning how to shoot guns. My first gun was a .410 single shot that I used for quail and dove hunting at age 8. I won my first turkey shoot at age 12. Do I think it's a good idea to take a bunch of 8 year olds to a gun range so they can pop off a bunch of rounds like they're playing Rambo? Depends how the "party" is run. Some young kid just shot somebody the other day because he was "playing around" with grandpa's gun. It's all in the presentation. They make the "party" a proper gun education class where the kids are expected to learn and respect firearms, I say sign them up and have a good time. But if they make it out to be some partytime atmosphere like they're shooting live weapons like they would with those shooting games at Chucky Cheese, then their priorities are skewed.
 

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/20#post_3477560
Show me one civilization that did not come to a violent and bloddy end, And I will call these guys stupid with you. Until that time...I see know reason why people shouldn't prepare for the worst. It is called smart...something some liberal regions of the country should look into more. Then you wont have to rely on Fema.......
It's one thing to be prepared for natural disasters, it's another to prepare yourself for the next Apocalypse. It's called watching too many Conservative talk shows where they scare you to death telling you we're heading towards a Socialist lifestyle, and all your liberties will be taken away. If you honestly believe that, then there's no hope for you. Go dig yourself a a nuclear fallout shelter, grab you Spam, water, MRE's, and all the weapons you can buy, and shut the door behind you. One less irrational wingnut the better.
 

rickross23

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It's one thing to be prepared for natural disasters, it's another to prepare yourself for the next Apocalypse.  It's called watching too many Conservative talk shows where they scare you to death telling you we're heading towards a Socialist lifestyle, and all your liberties will be taken away.  If you honestly believe that, then there's no hope for you.  Go dig yourself a a nuclear fallout shelter, grab you Spam, water, MRE's, and all the weapons you can buy, and shut the door behind you.  One less irrational wingnut the better.
Well said. The media has too much influence on the public these days.
 

reefraff

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/20#post_3477592
WAAHHHH! I have no problems with young kids learning how to shoot guns. My first gun was a .410 single shot that I used for quail and dove hunting at age 8. I won my first turkey shoot at age 12. Do I think it's a good idea to take a bunch of 8 year olds to a gun range so they can pop off a bunch of rounds like they're playing Rambo? Depends how the "party" is run. Some young kid just shot somebody the other day because he was "playing around" with grandpa's gun. It's all in the presentation. They make the "party" a proper gun education class where the kids are expected to learn and respect firearms, I say sign them up and have a good time. But if they make it out to be some partytime atmosphere like they're shooting live weapons like they would with those shooting games at Chucky Cheese, then their priorities are skewed.
Have you ever been to a gun range? Judging by you lame rambo comment I seriously doubt it.
 

reefraff

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/20#post_3477593
It's one thing to be prepared for natural disasters, it's another to prepare yourself for the next Apocalypse. It's called watching too many Conservative talk shows where they scare you to death telling you we're heading towards a Socialist lifestyle, and all your liberties will be taken away. If you honestly believe that, then there's no hope for you. Go dig yourself a a nuclear fallout shelter, grab you Spam, water, MRE's, and all the weapons you can buy, and shut the door behind you. One less irrational wingnut the better.
I bet there were a few million people in the 1930's who wished they were better prepared. My mom and dad were from rural areas where you could grow or shoot a lot of your food. My Step Dad was from Cincinnati and saw people he knew starve. 0bama hasn't drug us over the edge but it''s still in sight. He gets re elected it might be time to stock up on some spam and canned chicken.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/20#post_3477599
Have you ever been to a gun range? Judging by you lame rambo comment I seriously doubt it
- My brother owned a gun shop and was a licensed gunsmith. We'd spend afternoon's spewing a couple hundred rounds into useless targets with Colt .45's, AR-15's. Uzi's, .44 Mags, .357's,, and just about any other gun you see on a shelf at the local gun shop. We loaded our own, so it didn't cost as much. I think after paying for brass, powder, and lead, we spent maybe 10 cents per shell back in the 70's, if that. It's amazing how many rounnds you can waste with a modified lower receiver of an AR-15.
I just find it pointless now to sit around on a weekend, blowing $50 shooting innocent targets sitting out in a field that provides maybe 20 minutes of entertainment if you are blowing it through a semi-auto weapon. I owned my AR-15 for a purpose - hunting deer. When I quit deer hunting, I got rid of my AR-15. I have a couple of buddies that own one now, and I'll go with them on occasion to watch them shoot (yea, I pull off a few rounds), but I don't see the logic of owning one any longer because it's not a logical weapon for home or personal defense. I still have my Remington 1100 because it was my father's gun that he handed down to me. I went dove hunting just last year with it to bring back some old memories. My wife knows how to load and shoot it, because I figured that's the best kind of protection for her when I'm out traveling. "Just point it in the general direction and pull the trigger dear. Chances are the intruder will get sprayed with some of the BB's."
 

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/20#post_3477600
I bet there were a few million people in the 1930's who wished they were better prepared. My mom and dad were from rural areas where you could grow or shoot a lot of your food. My Step Dad was from Cincinnati and saw people he knew starve. 0bama hasn't drug us over the edge but it''s still in sight. He gets re elected it might be time to stock up on some spam and canned chicken.
Your Obama comment just validated my point. I thought Bush was a loon, and completely destroyed our economic system to the point that his policies are still affecting us today. But I never in my imagination ever thought that as a standing President he'd bring social chaos to this country. Please tell me the excessive social policies he's enacted that have personally affected your way of living. Don't even try Obamacare. My taxes haven't gone up one iota sincve he's been in office. In fact, they've gone down or stayed the same. My health insurance? Those costs have risen every year in the last 20 years. That's WAY before the new Healthcare Mandate. Gas prices? Obama has absolutely no major control over the price of a barrel of oil. OPEC and foreign oil holds those purse strings and you know it. Food costs? That's the product of screwy weather patterns (uh oh, that's that evil global warming you like to deny), and the wingnuts chasing all the illegals out of the country so the farmers are stuck paying higher labor costs to get their crops out of their fields. Housing costs? Mortgage rates are the lowest in the last two decades. Jobs? Blame that on the Republican's in Congress with their scare tactics that Obama is a Socialist pig, and we're not going to compromise on any legislation no matter how logical it may be, because our primary goal over the last two years was to insure Obama doesn't get re-elected to a second term.
 

reefraff

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/20#post_3477618
Your Obama comment just validated my point. I thought Bush was a loon, and completely destroyed our economic system to the point that his policies are still affecting us today. But I never in my imagination ever thought that as a standing President he'd bring social chaos to this country. Please tell me the excessive social policies he's enacted that have personally affected your way of living. Don't even try Obamacare. My taxes haven't gone up one iota sincve he's been in office. In fact, they've gone down or stayed the same. My health insurance? Those costs have risen every year in the last 20 years. That's WAY before the new Healthcare Mandate. Gas prices? Obama has absolutely no major control over the price of a barrel of oil. OPEC and foreign oil holds those purse strings and you know it. Food costs? That's the product of screwy weather patterns (uh oh, that's that evil global warming you like to deny), and the wingnuts chasing all the illegals out of the country so the farmers are stuck paying higher labor costs to get their crops out of their fields. Housing costs? Mortgage rates are the lowest in the last two decades. Jobs? Blame that on the Republican's in Congress with their scare tactics that Obama is a Socialist pig, and we're not going to compromise on any legislation no matter how logical it may be, because our primary goal over the last two years was to insure Obama doesn't get re-elected to a second term.
Social policy isn't what is killing the economy. It's 0bama's insane level of spending. 16 Trillion in debt by the time we get to the end of this error. That's up over 6 trillion since the day he took office. Permits to drill for oil on federal lands were down better than 40 percent under 0bama, still down by about 30 percent now. You don't think that's added upward pressure on the price of oil? Let alone rejecting Keystone. The more oil that makes it to the market the cheaper it will be. Food prices? 0bama doubled down on foolish ethanol subsidies which encourages corn to be used for fuel instead of feed stocks or food.
Jobs? So let me get this straight. The Republicans have a majority in the house and it's all their fault but Democrats controlled the House and Senate well before the economy tanked but that was all Bush's fault? Yeah, whatever.
What it all comes down to is if our economy crashes there are going to be a lot of hungry liberals waiting for the government catering truck that's never going to show up.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/20#post_3477616
- My brother owned a gun shop and was a licensed gunsmith. We'd spend afternoon's spewing a couple hundred rounds into useless targets with Colt .45's, AR-15's. Uzi's, .44 Mags, .357's,, and just about any other gun you see on a shelf at the local gun shop. We loaded our own, so it didn't cost as much. I think after paying for brass, powder, and lead, we spent maybe 10 cents per shell back in the 70's, if that. It's amazing how many rounnds you can waste with a modified lower receiver of an AR-15.
I just find it pointless now to sit around on a weekend, blowing $50 shooting innocent targets sitting out in a field that provides maybe 20 minutes of entertainment if you are blowing it through a semi-auto weapon. I owned my AR-15 for a purpose - hunting deer. When I quit deer hunting, I got rid of my AR-15. I have a couple of buddies that own one now, and I'll go with them on occasion to watch them shoot (yea, I pull off a few rounds), but I don't see the logic of owning one any longer because it's not a logical weapon for home or personal defense. I still have my Remington 1100 because it was my father's gun that he handed down to me. I went dove hunting just last year with it to bring back some old memories. My wife knows how to load and shoot it, because I figured that's the best kind of protection for her when I'm out traveling. "Just point it in the general direction and pull the trigger dear. Chances are the intruder will get sprayed with some of the BB's."
You didn't answer the gun range question so I will assume the answer is no. Gun ranges have very strict rules. The idea of kids "Popping off like Rambo" is absurd to any of us who have actually been to one.
 

mantisman51

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Except mine. I let anyone of any age come to my range and shoot anything. By golly, I figure if them there commie jack rabbits didn't wanna get killed, they wouldn't walk near my range. And if a kid can hold it, they can shoot it. There ain't nuthin but a bunch a of gubment commies tryin to stop it. My favorite is when a 2 year old shoots a Desert Eagle. Sure he gets a bump on the noggin, but he done learned a valuable lesson. Thursday nights is "Tween Thursday". We hold a kegathon and dance. Shoot! When you get a bunch of 10-12 year olds boozed up and let em loose with an AR, WOOOWEEEE! Talk about fun. (That is how absurd Bio's logic is. Is this how he really sees the world. It sure seems that way.)
 

darthtang aw

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Ummmm...the "uzi" was not available for civilian use till the 80's. how were you firing and reloading for these in the 70's?
darth (only criminals and gangbangers use the term uzi) Tang
 
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