Makes me wonder....

darthtang aw

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From what my friend said if you file the breech stop on the firing pin down, the action will move freely and not force the semi-auto firing. So I guess it would be about the easiest gun on the planet to convert. I'm satisfied with my SKS. It goes bang when I want it to and I can unload the 30 round magazine in a few seconds, so I don't need full auto.
No Thanks. There is little control with Full Auto. I just like the gun.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by oscardeuce http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/40#post_3477685
You have seen my collection? You have any idea how big or small it is? It may not be the largest in the Nation, but I assure you the few who have seen it do not use terms like "peanuts".
BTW are you admittimg to illegally possessing blasting caps?
Read the oath the military take. The POTUS may be CIC, but the oath is not about the President. It is about the Constitution. You always seem to forget that. Just like when the EPA tried to outlaw lead ammo. The SCUS stopped that.
The blasting caps weren't illegal. The riggers had a license to purchase and carry them.
The size of your "collection" is irrelevent. I don't think it will ever match the "collection" of our Armed Forces. You got something that'll take down an M1 Abrams? If so, I think the ATF would be interested in hearing about it.
There was a guy who was just discharged a few months ago for just dissing Obama on his Facebook page. It's called chain of command. If a private's CO tells him to shoot, he shoots. If he doesn't he's charged for disobeying a direct order. His CO is directed by his CO, and so forth, and so forth, up to the Joint Chiefs in the Pentagon, that report to the POTUS. Again, tell your story to David Koresh, or the nutjobs at Ruby Ridge Oh wait, they're all dead.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Google AR-15 lower receiver sear pin.
So.....someone with a Type 9 FFL and a Class 3 SOT access, illegally altered a sear pin instead of just ordering and purchasing what they could legally get? Really?
Still waiting on that UZI explanation you keep dodging.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/40#post_3477687
You do realize you are arguing with a guy that has never been to a true gun range...yet attributes "rambo" characteristic of those that attend these ranges. He has only shot out on, Most likely, Federal land or someones farm.
He also Believes that if the president were to order the military to confiscate all weapons, the populace would stand by and allow it.
He still claims to have shot "Uzis" in the seventies even though only the military had these weapons and access to them up until the 80's.
Google Map "A Place To Shoot" in San Antonio. Used to go there on occasion until the city recently shut it down. Seems a couple of golfers a mile away go hit with .223 lead while playing a round. The gun range denies it was them, but nothing else has happened since they werer temporarily closed.
You watch too many Made For TV movies. Based on this study, 1/3 of US homes have guns. The other 2/3rd's could care less.
http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2011/04/26/One-third-of-US-households-own-guns/UPI-46991303850331/
Here's a simplistic chart even you can understand:
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/budget_pie_gs.php
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/60#post_3477711
So.....someone with a Type 9 FFL and a Class 3 SOT access, illegally altered a sear pin instead of just ordering and purchasing what they could legally get? Really?
Still waiting on that UZI explanation you keep dodging.
Because you can? Why buy a modified lower receiver when you can take a simple file and do the same thing? Ever watch Sons Of Guns? What kind of "modifications" do you see them doing? I particularly like the silencer on the .50 cal myself.
"The Uzi has been exported to over 90 countries.[sup][2] Over its service lifetime, it has been manufactured by Israel Military Industries, FN Herstal, and other manufacturers. From the 1960s through the 1980s, Uzi submachine guns were sold to more military and police markets than any other submachine gun ever made.[sup][5]"[/sup]
My brother had multiple friends in the Houston PD and Harris County Sheriff's office. Bartering was not uncommon back them. He used to also get police-grade armored piercing ammo that wasn't readily available to the public. I never asked where he got many of the arms he had lying around the shop. I just had a good time shooting them.[/sup]
 
darthtang aw

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Google AR-15 lower receiver sear pin.
Did that...
https://www.google.com/search?q=lower+receiver+sear+pin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=ar-15+lower+receiver+sear+pin&oq=ar-15+lower+receiver+sear+pin&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_l=serp.3...237645.239559.2.240820.7.6.1.0.0.0.280.1233.0j4j2.6.0.cqn%2Cfixedpos%3Dfalse%2Cboost_normal%3D40%2Cboost_high%3D40%2Ccconf%3D0-95%2Cmin_length%3D2%2Crate_low%3D0-015%2Crate_high%3D0-015%2Csecond_pass%3Dfalse.1.0.0.-Vc2XdBTQ6E&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f6f446b1266aff10&biw=1600&bih=794
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/60#post_3477716
Did that...
https://www.google.com/search?q=lower+receiver+sear+pin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=ar-15+lower+receiver+sear+pin&oq=ar-15+lower+receiver+sear+pin&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_l=serp.3...237645.239559.2.240820.7.6.1.0.0.0.280.1233.0j4j2.6.0.cqn%2Cfixedpos%3Dfalse%2Cboost_normal%3D40%2Cboost_high%3D40%2Ccconf%3D0-95%2Cmin_length%3D2%2Crate_low%3D0-015%2Crate_high%3D0-015%2Csecond_pass%3Dfalse.1.0.0.-Vc2XdBTQ6E&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f6f446b1266aff10&biw=1600&bih=794
OK. One more time. REAL SLOW. MY...BROTHER...WAS...A..LICENSED..GUNSMITH. He had a full shop of every imaginablr part you would need to repair or modify virtually any weapon on the market. If he didn't have the part he had a full metal and wood shop where he could mill the part he needed to spec. He took apart a LEGALLY PURCHASED lower receiver that was modified for full auto, and simply replicated the parts in his shop.
 
darthtang aw

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OK.  One more time.  REAL SLOW.  MY...BROTHER...WAS...A..LICENSED..GUNSMITH.  He had a full shop of every imaginablr part you would need to repair or  modify virtually any weapon on the market.  If he didn't have the part he had a full metal and wood shop where he could mill the part he needed to spec.  He took apart a LEGALLY PURCHASED lower receiver that was modified for full auto, and simply replicated the parts in his shop.
And one more time real slowwwwwww
H E BROKEEEEEE T H E LAWWWWWWW.
Um...the UZI was only issued to secret service. Never police forces................in the U.S. atleast.
Pictures or it didn't happen.
Darth (I usually use that phrase for something else) Tang
 
darthtang aw

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Because you can?  Why buy a modified lower receiver when you can take a simple file and do the same thing?  Ever watch Sons Of Guns?  What kind of "modifications" do you see them doing?  I particularly like the silencer on the .50 cal myself.
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Perfectly legal now days with a 200 dollar tax stamp. What your brother did...illegal. See the difference yet?
And I believe, at the time, the only way to go fully auto with an Ar was to get an M-16 lower. So your brother would have had to had an M-16 lower on hand...and at the time it would have been cheaper to just purchase the lower than convert the AR lower...
 
darthtang aw

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Google Map "A Place To Shoot" in San Antonio.  Used to go there on occasion until the city recently shut it down.  Seems a couple of golfers a mile away go hit with .223 lead while playing a round.  The gun range denies it was them, but nothing else has happened since they werer temporarily closed.
You just contradicted what you stated earlier. Funny, you can not remember the name of your gun range.
 
oscardeuce

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I hope your "brother" registered the machine gun he manufactured. If not he is in for bad ju-ju. I do not think "Sons of Guns" is a good example of true collectors and marksmen. Either there is quite a bit behind the scenes paperwork on some of those firearms, or they are outside the laws. I agree about the acts of 1936 and 1986 being bad law, but they are the law. IMHO the NRA does not have the stones to go after 1986. I am a life member, and I ask them this all the time. The 1986 act basically made it almost impossible to own any decent full auto firearms for less than $10,000. Sure you can get a MAC-10 type, some low end UZI's M-2 Carbine, M-50 Reislings, and suce under than mark, but if you want a decent Thompson, M3 Grease Gun, MP-40, those start at about $10,000 for transferable examples. If you bought in the 70's when there was a bit of a glut, you are sitting on a mint today.
For me the shooting is fun, but it is the history that makes me think. Why did Custer lose a Little Big Horn? In part because his men had to dismount to use their Springfield breech loading trap door carbines. Pick one up and see how hard they are to load. On the other hand they are fairly accurate and had hitting 45-70 gov't. When I pick up a gun, who held it before me? Was it on Omaha Beach, Tarawa, Inchon, Da Nang? That goves me awe.
 
darthtang aw

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For me the shooting is fun, but it is the history that makes me think. Why did Custer lose a Little Big Horn? In part because his men had to dismount to use their Springfield breech loading trap door carbines. Pick one up and see how hard they are to load. On the other hand they are fairly accurate and had hitting 45-70 gov't. When I pick up a gun, who held it before me? Was it on Omaha Beach, Tarawa, Inchon, Da Nang? That goves me awe.
I know what you mean on this. I have been looking for Mossin Nagant. Just haven't found the right one yet.
 
mantisman51

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I have a 1937 production 91/30. I would think it was used in WWII since Russia had a severe gun shortage to begin the war. I sometimes wonder if it was used by some unfortunate Russian soldiers at Leningrad or Stalingrad. Was it used to actually kill Germans? It is the history of the guns that intrigue me, as well.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/40#post_3477677
You must go to one of those Ultra Conservative gun ranges. My main "gun range" was 2800 acres by Terlingua. TX out in the Big Bend country. Used to go mule deer and rattlesnake hunting, along with our "Rambo war games". Some of our hunting partners worked for an oil rigging company, and we used to take blasting caps and rig up trip wires that had bags of flours that would explode when you caught the wire.
AGAIN, my brother was a gunsmith and owned his own gun shop. At the time, he had what is known as a Type 9 FFL, with a Class 3 SOT. Pretty much could own and sell any weapon, including "destructive devices". My favorite weapon that he had was a Thompson submachine gun. Man was that puppy fun to shoot. Did we do some things that weren't exactly considered "legal"? Can't rightly remember, since that was over 30 years ago...

So what you are saying is you have never been to a gun range. Sure went in a roundabout way of saying it.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/60#post_3477708
The blasting caps weren't illegal. The riggers had a license to purchase and carry them.
The size of your "collection" is irrelevent. I don't think it will ever match the "collection" of our Armed Forces. You got something that'll take down an M1 Abrams? If so, I think the ATF would be interested in hearing about it.
There was a guy who was just discharged a few months ago for just dissing Obama on his Facebook page. It's called chain of command. If a private's CO tells him to shoot, he shoots. If he doesn't he's charged for disobeying a direct order. His CO is directed by his CO, and so forth, and so forth, up to the Joint Chiefs in the Pentagon, that report to the POTUS. Again, tell your story to David Koresh, or the nutjobs at Ruby Ridge Oh wait, they're all dead.
What does Ruby Ridge or Koresh have to do with military following orders?
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/60#post_3477725
And one more time real slowwwwwww
H E BROKEEEEEE T H E LAWWWWWWW.
Um...the UZI was only issued to secret service. Never police forces................in the U.S. atleast.
Pictures or it didn't happen.
Darth (I usually use that phrase for something else) Tang
N O H E DIDDDDDN'T. Quit trying to argue about something you obviously know nothing about.
Bionic (Darth 'the expert' is clueless yet again) Arm
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/60#post_3477728
You just contradicted what you stated earlier. Funny, you can not remember the name of your gun range.
OK Forrest Gump. Where did I eactly contradict what I said earlier? I used to peruse several gun ranges in Houston OVER THIRTY PLUS YEARS AGO. You want me to remember a name of a place that's probably no longer there? I also stated that we used our hunting ranch as a "gun range". Then I stated look up A PLCAE TO SHOOT in San Antonio.
Bionic (stupid is as stupid does) Arm
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/391871/makes-me-wonder/60#post_3477804
What does Ruby Ridge or Koresh have to do with military following orders?
Man you people obviously don't know the meaning of an analogy. What happened with David Koresh and Ruby Ridge? THEY WERE GUN FANATICS THAT WENT AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVT.. In their case, it was only the FBI and ATF that stepped in. That's all it took. I just used the Military as an extreme example of what COULD happen if enough NeoCon, NRA Packin', O'reilly/Hannity/Limbaugh followin', "I think Obama is a Socialist and is gonna take away all my personal liberties", extremist nutjobs were to try and start the next Civil War. It may be some noble and glorious act in your mind, but it would be an effort in futility all the same.
 
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