Marijuana

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Krista921
yeaaaa its something outrageous like you have to smoke 16,000 joints in 15 minutes to die of THC overdose. you'd die from the carbon dioxide in the smoke longggggggggggggg before you evvveerrrrrrrr died of thc overdose. and for the age limit, im pretty sure there will always be a black market for pot and it wont matter if i can buy it from a store or a dealer to me
So for you, no matter what the law, you'll be willing to break it.
Not being critical, just trying to figure out if "legalization" means the same thing to everyone.

 

[rudedog40]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
So for you, no matter what the law, you'll be willing to break it.
Not being critical, just trying to figure out if "legalization" means the same thing to everyone.

Sounds like a typical teenager to me. Why do you think Mexico is one of the most popular Spring Break destinations? Because you can drink at age 18 (actually most of the bars down there could care less how old you are). When I was growing up, 18 was legal to drink. I personally believe if you're old enough to get married, and old enough to go to war, you should be responsible enough to handle any form of legal substance.

 

[triga22]

I dont think there should be an age. Look at this the age of drinking is 21.
Just about all of the people I know have gotten drunk or atleast drank before in their life. I havent and I feel pretty good about that.Also about 25% have smoked or smoke cigarettes or pot. So why make an age is kids get into the stuff anyways? Let the kids kill themselves for making huge stupid errors. Yea you can say that the law keeps kids from buying it but they still get it from parents,underground... Whatever.

 

[triga22]

Ohh and to add to my statement. Kids shouldnt be getting into this stuff. Most of the time its due to 2 parents working full time. Its not that hard to get away from the stuff. I have freed one of my friends from most drugs, by talking to him about it. Now he loves riding roller coasters more and seems to enjoy life alot more. I think that kids have plenty of other things to do then drugs.
This is what I do to keep away from it
Roller Coaster- Great source of adrenilne better then any drug in my book
Fish-Keeps me active in a hobby that I love, Forums that I like to help people out on, People to chat with, keep me company
Flying planes- Spend time with my dad, having fun, something to do
Video Games-Great time talking to different people,Fun,Time consuming

 

[digitydash]

Originally Posted by Krista921
i think hes sayin to legalize it
and the only people who smoke work fast food???
idk like to see those stats
I have my own buisness and smoke.Far from fast food and I know alot of rich people that also do it so that is definatly a miss conception

Rudedog
It would take pounds of weed to OD on thc from smoking it which you would pass out way befor that ever happened.I would think the only way that would be possible is to make it into a food and eat it.

 

[wfd1008]

i think i have to agree with rudedog on the age. if you're old enough to go to war and die for your country, then you should be old enough to have a beer or smoke a j if it was legal.
side note here-on getting married, well i think there needs to be a test given, a thirty day wait period and then a mental evaluation, cause simply put, there are some people that don't need to reproduce.

 

[rudedog40]

Originally Posted by wfd1008
i think i have to agree with rudedog on the age. if you're old enough to go to war and die for your country, then you should be old enough to have a beer or smoke a j if it was legal.
side note here-on getting married, well i think there needs to be a test given, a thirty day wait period and then a mental evaluation, cause simply put, there are some people that don't need to reproduce.

Are you talking about the $pear$ family?

 

[wfd1008]

Originally Posted by rudedog40
Are you talking about the $pear$ family?

well, no, but that is perfect case and point. you hit that one and the head

 

[itom37]

Originally Posted by wfd1008
i think i have to agree with rudedog on the age. if you're old enough to go to war and die for your country, then you should be old enough to have a beer or smoke a j if it was legal.
side note here-on getting married, well i think there needs to be a test given, a thirty day wait period and then a mental evaluation, cause simply put, there are some people that don't need to reproduce.

Yeah, homosexuals aren't allowed to marry and they almost never procreate.

 

[itom37]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
For the legalization crowd; at what age would you make it legal?
I'd lower it to 18 along with alcohol.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by NYyankeees
I agree with you totally and as long as it's a "social" thing like drinking, I see nothing wrong with it. Weed is not like cocaine or heroine you can smoke it on occasion and not automatically be addicted to it, :
You assume using something occasionally wont lead to addiction. That is not the case with MJ or any other drug. It is less likely you will become addicted with light use but if a person's body chemisty is such that they are prone to mental or physical addiction even light use will eventually lead to addiction.

 

[reefraff]

And the Pro legalization crowd takes the lead

I realize I come off like I am arguing against legalization but I was the first vote in favor of legalizing it in the poll.

 

[nyyankeees]

Originally Posted by reefraff
You assume using something occasionally wont lead to addiction. That is not the case with MJ or any other drug. It is less likely you will become addicted with light use but if a person's body chemisty is such that they are prone to mental or physical addiction even light use will eventually lead to addiction.
As it also will with alcohol, food, p.orn, gambling, painkillers or anything else one can get "addicted" to. I never said I was speaking for every case, I was speaking from my own personal experience and use. I also never said whether I am for or against legalization of it, so now who is assuming? All, I said was if people like to smoke it that is their choice and that I would not judge them for it and sited some of my past experiences with it. Stop reading into things so much.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by NYyankeees
As it also will with alcohol, food, p.orn, gambling, painkillers or anything else one can get "addicted" to. I never said I was speaking for every case, I was speaking from my own personal experience and use. I also never said whether I am for or against legalization of it, so now who is assuming? All, I said was if people like to smoke it that is their choice and that I would not judge them for it and sited some of my past experiences with it. Stop reading into things so much.
Who said anything about you being for or against it? I think maybe you're the one who needs to stop reading into things so much

EDIT: It just dawned on me that maybe you thought that second post was directed at you, it wasn't.
Your post "you can use it occasionally and not be automatically addicted" leaves the impression you don't think occasional use can cause lead to addiction. And your right, people can become addicted to a number of things but those we ingest (sweets, drugs, booze, etc.) are usually the most preventable.

 

[reefer545]

Niger. Wormwood is a poison not an animal. Just clarifying.
To whomever posted about people not knowing the facts concerning tar content in Weed: A water pipe or bong takes 99.9 % of the tar out of weed and tobacco for that matter. The other point about how many cigarettes vs. how many joints is extremely valid too. Oh, and pot cookery is a GREAT healthy alternative to smoking. tobacco cookery, not so much, that's more a wine thing.
Age limit is something I have a lot of contempt for. America is laughed at day in and day out for this very subject. Europeans believe it is crazy that American teenagers can drive BEFORE they can drink. I agree. America has the highest DUI numbers in the world. That is because in EUROPE parents teach their kids about alcohol and appropriate use thereof while they are YOUNG. This education is the reason you see far less binge drinking and public drunkeness there (please dont bring up oktoberfest or some other festival). That behavior is unacceptable, and to drive in said condition is also pretty much never even a thought to most europeans, as they are taught to drink responsibly from a young age. Then they are taught to drive later, and their driving tests are harder and everybody who wants a license must also know how fix certain parts of a car prior to licensing.
That being said, I believe that whole statement can be directly related to marijuana use. Were it legalized, it is something that should be TAUGHT to be respected from a yuong age. I am not saying get your kids high. I am saying that today, parents are telling their kids that if they do drugs they will go to hell and threats of that nature. But if we educate our young, I belive they would surprise us all and make better decisions. Again, I am not saying pot is a bad choice, I am all for legalization. I am saying that too many kids turn to pot as an escape or because it is the cool thing or rebellious thing. Those are reasonings that should not be allowed, and through education it can be achieved.

 

[jennythebugg]

is everyone forgetting immature we were at 18 ?, the older you are the less willing many of us are for hasty risky behaviour

 

[dlauber]

Going a bit off topic... when I was taking my drivers permit test, it was a simple 20 question quiz. I had taken a DE class about a year ago and hadnt studied, I was just going to wing it.
The test was a joke really, I missed one question, when I asked how many you could miss it was 7 or 6 out of 20. That is just rediculous. IMO you should have to have at least 90%
And dumb people that cant get questions right on a simple 20 question quiz are probaly the ones that go out drinking impaired.

 

[sammyw]

I would much rather deal with someone under the influence of Marijuana than one under the influence of alcohol. I think we should make people obtain "Alcohol Cards" and minimize that rather than the Marijuana.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by REEFER545
Niger. Wormwood is a poison not an animal. Just
Age limit is something I have a lot of contempt for. America is laughed at day in and day out for this very subject. Europeans believe it is crazy that American teenagers can drive BEFORE they can drink. I agree. America has the highest DUI numbers in the world. That is because in EUROPE parents teach their kids about alcohol and appropriate use thereof while they are YOUNG. This education is the reason you see far less binge drinking and public drunkeness there (please dont bring up oktoberfest or some other festival). That behavior is unacceptable, and to drive in said condition is also pretty much never even a thought to most europeans, as they are taught to drink responsibly from a young age. Then they are taught to drive later, and their driving tests are harder and everybody who wants a license must also know how fix certain parts of a car prior to licensing.
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Interesting, Europe has the highest incidents of alcohol use and abuse but the us has more DUI's? Maybe its because we have stricter laws and better enforcement.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by reefraff
Interesting, Europe has the highest incidents of alcohol use and abuse but the us has more DUI's? Maybe its because we have stricter laws and better enforcement.
I've spent some time in Europe.
I highly suspect the vast amount of public transportation and lack of multi-car families has more to do with this than anything else.
It's true the Europeans laugh at us for a lot of things; That said, who cares? Last time I checked we were still the envy of the world.