littledynam1te
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They did last year and the year before
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littledynam1te
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Explain reefraff
theclemsonkid
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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/20#post_3496335
Plus anyone tht knows the SEC knows that vandy is a good team the just don't play good in big games
Also there a good base team with a good pass d and ok o
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/20#post_3496340
Do you know how completely lame that statement is?
Come on man, you say that "Florida State doesn't belong in the top 15", and then you try and say Vandy is a good team? The same Vandy who lost to NORTHWESTERN and got steamrolled by Georgia. If you want to make intelligent arguments I'm all for it. But that last statement was neither intelligent or true...
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/20#post_3496335
Plus anyone tht knows the SEC knows that vandy is a good team the just don't play good in big games
Also there a good base team with a good pass d and ok o
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/20#post_3496340
Do you know how completely lame that statement is?
Come on man, you say that "Florida State doesn't belong in the top 15", and then you try and say Vandy is a good team? The same Vandy who lost to NORTHWESTERN and got steamrolled by Georgia. If you want to make intelligent arguments I'm all for it. But that last statement was neither intelligent or true...
reefraff
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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/20#post_3496336
Thu, Aug 30
@
Vanderbilt Record 2-3 one of the wins against a division II team
W17-13
1-0 (1-0)
Sat, Sept 8
vs
East Carolina 3-3 record in conference usa LOL!
W48-10
2-0 (1-0)
Sat, Sept 15
vs
UAB 1-4 in conference USA
W49-6
3-0 (1-0)
Sat, Sept 22
vs
Missouri 3-3 ZERO wins in the conference
W31-10
4-0 (2-0)
Sat, Sept 29
@
Kentucky 1-5 only win came against Kent State
W38-17
5-0 (3-0)
Sat, Oct 6
vs
#5 Georgia Only quality win.
W35-7
6-0 (4-0)
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/20#post_3496336
Thu, Aug 30
@
Vanderbilt Record 2-3 one of the wins against a division II team
W17-13
1-0 (1-0)
Sat, Sept 8
vs
East Carolina 3-3 record in conference usa LOL!
W48-10
2-0 (1-0)
Sat, Sept 15
vs
UAB 1-4 in conference USA
W49-6
3-0 (1-0)
Sat, Sept 22
vs
Missouri 3-3 ZERO wins in the conference
W31-10
4-0 (2-0)
Sat, Sept 29
@
Kentucky 1-5 only win came against Kent State
W38-17
5-0 (3-0)
Sat, Oct 6
vs
#5 Georgia Only quality win.
W35-7
6-0 (4-0)
littledynam1te
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U know the when the 1st BCS rankings before the 1st game when they are released they rankings are done by recurting class So them playing car teams doesn't effect there rankings as much because of there original rank
reefraff
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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496342
Explain reefraff
Their only good win came against Presbyterian. They beat Missouri by 4 points. Missouri hasn't won a game in the SEC. Vandy sucks out loud on steroids.
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496342
Explain reefraff
Their only good win came against Presbyterian. They beat Missouri by 4 points. Missouri hasn't won a game in the SEC. Vandy sucks out loud on steroids.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496347
U know the when the 1st BCS rankings before the 1st game when they are released they rankings are done by recurting class So them playing car teams doesn't effect there rankings as much because of there original rank
Again I'll ask, What the hell are you talking about? The first BCS rankings aren't out yet and they are, and always have been based on a combination of the computer rankings and the human polls. Recruiting has nothing to do with it
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496347
U know the when the 1st BCS rankings before the 1st game when they are released they rankings are done by recurting class So them playing car teams doesn't effect there rankings as much because of there original rank
Again I'll ask, What the hell are you talking about? The first BCS rankings aren't out yet and they are, and always have been based on a combination of the computer rankings and the human polls. Recruiting has nothing to do with it
littledynam1te
Member
I aid the Fisrt rankings at the Fisrt game of the season are based on recurting ik tht they're out now duh we wouldn't be having this conversation if the ranks weren't out yet the info they put in to the computer is the recurting for each team and polls
littledynam1te
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Anyway if sc beats fl and LSU we will face bama after that if we won and remain undefeated till that point we will face Oregon in the BCS nat. Title
I believ that we can beat Oregon and win
Sc and oregon are the only real teams this that are bowl eligible
I believ that we can beat Oregon and win
Sc and oregon are the only real teams this that are bowl eligible
reefraff
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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496354
I aid the Fisrt rankings at the Fisrt game of the season are based on recurting ik tht they're out now duh we wouldn't be having this conversation if the ranks weren't out yet the info they put in to the computer is the recurting for each team and polls
You said the first BCS rankings but whatever. What determines the rankings are the previous season performance and the number of returning players. Very few high school players become first year stars in the NCAA so recruiting doesn't play much of a roll if any in the rankings.
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496354
I aid the Fisrt rankings at the Fisrt game of the season are based on recurting ik tht they're out now duh we wouldn't be having this conversation if the ranks weren't out yet the info they put in to the computer is the recurting for each team and polls
You said the first BCS rankings but whatever. What determines the rankings are the previous season performance and the number of returning players. Very few high school players become first year stars in the NCAA so recruiting doesn't play much of a roll if any in the rankings.
theclemsonkid
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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496356
Anyway if sc beats fl and LSU we will face bama after that if we won and remain undefeated till that point we will face Oregon in the BCS nat. Title
I believ that we can beat Oregon and win
Sc and oregon are the only real teams this that are bowl eligible
Before you start worrying about beating Oregon in the BCS title game, you probably ought to get by Florida, LSU, Clemson, and the SEC title game. I think you are getting just a little ahead of yourself here champ...
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496356
Anyway if sc beats fl and LSU we will face bama after that if we won and remain undefeated till that point we will face Oregon in the BCS nat. Title
I believ that we can beat Oregon and win
Sc and oregon are the only real teams this that are bowl eligible
Before you start worrying about beating Oregon in the BCS title game, you probably ought to get by Florida, LSU, Clemson, and the SEC title game. I think you are getting just a little ahead of yourself here champ...
littledynam1te
Member
So LSU bama and Florida not Clemson
Call me cocky
Call me cocky
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/20#post_3496318
LOL! That is as absurd as your political arguments. How is it different for Notre Dame? They are still a powerhouse team so the same issues apply to them as well. In fact it would be harder for ND to schedule top teams because there is no conference ties for them. Teams don't have to play them.
Notre Dame is good this year. I can't remember, last year, but I know they haven't been a viable contender for some time. Teams play them because they know they'll get TV time and revenue if they do. NBC broadcasts every game they play from Day 1. That's why teams line up TO play them. Money talks.
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/20#post_3496318
LOL! That is as absurd as your political arguments. How is it different for Notre Dame? They are still a powerhouse team so the same issues apply to them as well. In fact it would be harder for ND to schedule top teams because there is no conference ties for them. Teams don't have to play them.
Notre Dame is good this year. I can't remember, last year, but I know they haven't been a viable contender for some time. Teams play them because they know they'll get TV time and revenue if they do. NBC broadcasts every game they play from Day 1. That's why teams line up TO play them. Money talks.
littledynam1te
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U really can't use tv time as part of your argument because navy just signed a big deal with CBS I think anyway and my dad is a huge fan of navy and they suck
reefraff
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496373
Notre Dame is good this year. I can't remember, last year, but I know they haven't been a viable contender for some time. Teams play them because they know they'll get TV time and revenue if they do. NBC broadcasts every game they play from Day 1. That's why teams line up TO play them. Money talks.
And Notre Dame gets the lion's share of that revenue. They've been a solid enough team about the last 4 seasons. In and out of the rankings but not a contender.
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496373
Notre Dame is good this year. I can't remember, last year, but I know they haven't been a viable contender for some time. Teams play them because they know they'll get TV time and revenue if they do. NBC broadcasts every game they play from Day 1. That's why teams line up TO play them. Money talks.
And Notre Dame gets the lion's share of that revenue. They've been a solid enough team about the last 4 seasons. In and out of the rankings but not a contender.
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496389
And Notre Dame gets the lion's share of that revenue. They've been a solid enough team about the last 4 seasons. In and out of the rankings but not a contender.
Some revenue share is better than none at all. Unless you win it all, nothing else matters. Who cares if Notre Dame finished ranked in the Top 25 or even the Top 10 the last four years. In college football, the only thing anyone MAY remember is who was in the previous year's BCS Bowls, and who won the National Championship. Other than that, it's a fan thing...
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496389
And Notre Dame gets the lion's share of that revenue. They've been a solid enough team about the last 4 seasons. In and out of the rankings but not a contender.
Some revenue share is better than none at all. Unless you win it all, nothing else matters. Who cares if Notre Dame finished ranked in the Top 25 or even the Top 10 the last four years. In college football, the only thing anyone MAY remember is who was in the previous year's BCS Bowls, and who won the National Championship. Other than that, it's a fan thing...
reefraff
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496414
Some revenue share is better than none at all. Unless you win it all, nothing else matters. Who cares if Notre Dame finished ranked in the Top 25 or even the Top 10 the last four years. In college football, the only thing anyone MAY remember is who was in the previous year's BCS Bowls, and who won the National Championship. Other than that, it's a fan thing...
Your argument makes no sense. First it's teams don't want to face another strong team early in the season. Now it's Notre Dame doesn't count. Now it's Notre Dame does count but it doesn't because it's all about money.
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496414
Some revenue share is better than none at all. Unless you win it all, nothing else matters. Who cares if Notre Dame finished ranked in the Top 25 or even the Top 10 the last four years. In college football, the only thing anyone MAY remember is who was in the previous year's BCS Bowls, and who won the National Championship. Other than that, it's a fan thing...
Your argument makes no sense. First it's teams don't want to face another strong team early in the season. Now it's Notre Dame doesn't count. Now it's Notre Dame does count but it doesn't because it's all about money.
littledynam1te
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Norte Dane does play any good teams at the beginning of the season either Fisrt game was there rivalry with navy
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496416
Your argument makes no sense. First it's teams don't want to face another strong team early in the season. Now it's Notre Dame doesn't count. Now it's Notre Dame does count but it doesn't because it's all about money.
You're the expert of twisting comments out of context.
Notre Dame dictates it's own schedule because they are Independent. I don't bother to track their history of who they play. Notre Dame got this multi-year contract to have almost all their games shown on NBC (mainly due to their fan base. More fans watching, more advertising dollars). Any team willing to play them will get some form of revenue stream for the same reason Notre Dame gets it. When it comes to college football, it is all about money. That's what gets the recruits (scholarships), that's what pays the bills for the huge stadiums, that's what keeps the Athletic Dept. as a whole viable. Getting selected to a BCS Bowl is the Holy Grail of the season.
The majority of Division 1 teams always play non-conference teams in their first few games. Of those, most of them are Division 2 or smaller teams. Why? Because it would be foolish to play another team from another Division 1 Conference that early in the season when you're still conditioning your team and figuring out plays, strategies, and positions. You're telling me a Big 12 team would schedule a SEC or Pac 10 team the first game?
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496416
Your argument makes no sense. First it's teams don't want to face another strong team early in the season. Now it's Notre Dame doesn't count. Now it's Notre Dame does count but it doesn't because it's all about money.
You're the expert of twisting comments out of context.
Notre Dame dictates it's own schedule because they are Independent. I don't bother to track their history of who they play. Notre Dame got this multi-year contract to have almost all their games shown on NBC (mainly due to their fan base. More fans watching, more advertising dollars). Any team willing to play them will get some form of revenue stream for the same reason Notre Dame gets it. When it comes to college football, it is all about money. That's what gets the recruits (scholarships), that's what pays the bills for the huge stadiums, that's what keeps the Athletic Dept. as a whole viable. Getting selected to a BCS Bowl is the Holy Grail of the season.
The majority of Division 1 teams always play non-conference teams in their first few games. Of those, most of them are Division 2 or smaller teams. Why? Because it would be foolish to play another team from another Division 1 Conference that early in the season when you're still conditioning your team and figuring out plays, strategies, and positions. You're telling me a Big 12 team would schedule a SEC or Pac 10 team the first game?
reefraff
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496438
You're the expert of twisting comments out of context.
Notre Dame dictates it's own schedule because they are Independent. I don't bother to track their history of who they play. Notre Dame got this multi-year contract to have almost all their games shown on NBC (mainly due to their fan base. More fans watching, more advertising dollars). Any team willing to play them will get some form of revenue stream for the same reason Notre Dame gets it. When it comes to college football, it is all about money. That's what gets the recruits (scholarships), that's what pays the bills for the huge stadiums, that's what keeps the Athletic Dept. as a whole viable. Getting selected to a BCS Bowl is the Holy Grail of the season.
The majority of Division 1 teams always play non-conference teams in their first few games. Of those, most of them are Division 2 or smaller teams. Why? Because it would be foolish to play another team from another Division 1 Conference that early in the season when you're still conditioning your team and figuring out plays, strategies, and positions. You're telling me a Big 12 team would schedule a SEC or Pac 10 team the first game?
ND could just as easy schedule rent A victims too. Like you said they have the TV deal but they don't do it.
All teams have control over their out of conference schedule subject to conference rules. When the pac 10 was still 10 teams they were required to play every other team in the conference. That leaves 3 out of conference games. 3 seasons ago USC'c out of conference schedule was Virginia Tech, Ohio State and Notre Dame. Yeah, easy teams there LOL!
Now let's look at Miss State. 5-0 ranked in the top 25. First 5 games are Jackson State, Auburn, Troy, South Alabama and Kentucky. Their two SEC opponents each have a 1-4 record. None of their minor league opponents thus far have a winning record either. This is not a team that deserves to be ranked yet they are. They still have a 4th rent a victim left in their schedule too. Yet when Bama whoops on them they will get credit for beating a ranked team, it's a joke. You telling me Miss State can't get quality opponents because they are such a good team? They were a 7-6 team last year with only 2 conference wins.
What we are seeing now is the rest of the NCAA doing what the SEC has done for years. Can't say that I blame them. I blame the NCAA for not creating a level playing field.
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/40#post_3496438
You're the expert of twisting comments out of context.
Notre Dame dictates it's own schedule because they are Independent. I don't bother to track their history of who they play. Notre Dame got this multi-year contract to have almost all their games shown on NBC (mainly due to their fan base. More fans watching, more advertising dollars). Any team willing to play them will get some form of revenue stream for the same reason Notre Dame gets it. When it comes to college football, it is all about money. That's what gets the recruits (scholarships), that's what pays the bills for the huge stadiums, that's what keeps the Athletic Dept. as a whole viable. Getting selected to a BCS Bowl is the Holy Grail of the season.
The majority of Division 1 teams always play non-conference teams in their first few games. Of those, most of them are Division 2 or smaller teams. Why? Because it would be foolish to play another team from another Division 1 Conference that early in the season when you're still conditioning your team and figuring out plays, strategies, and positions. You're telling me a Big 12 team would schedule a SEC or Pac 10 team the first game?
ND could just as easy schedule rent A victims too. Like you said they have the TV deal but they don't do it.
All teams have control over their out of conference schedule subject to conference rules. When the pac 10 was still 10 teams they were required to play every other team in the conference. That leaves 3 out of conference games. 3 seasons ago USC'c out of conference schedule was Virginia Tech, Ohio State and Notre Dame. Yeah, easy teams there LOL!
Now let's look at Miss State. 5-0 ranked in the top 25. First 5 games are Jackson State, Auburn, Troy, South Alabama and Kentucky. Their two SEC opponents each have a 1-4 record. None of their minor league opponents thus far have a winning record either. This is not a team that deserves to be ranked yet they are. They still have a 4th rent a victim left in their schedule too. Yet when Bama whoops on them they will get credit for beating a ranked team, it's a joke. You telling me Miss State can't get quality opponents because they are such a good team? They were a 7-6 team last year with only 2 conference wins.
What we are seeing now is the rest of the NCAA doing what the SEC has done for years. Can't say that I blame them. I blame the NCAA for not creating a level playing field.