littledynam1te
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Can't believe sc lost tht bad
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reefraff
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After reviewing things it really isn't so shocking. The only BSC team SC had played up till now that has a winning record was Georgia who themselves looked to be a really good team. But looking at Georgia's schedule SC was the first BCS team with a winning record they had played. The SEC is just more overrated than usual this year.
littledynam1te
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We played against LSU in death valley and lost by to if we played at home we would have one
Death valley is one of the hardest places In the country to play at
When sc played ga williams brace was the loudest stadium in the country
If we played against fl at home we may have one keep in mind tht again the swamp is another EXTERMLY hard place to play at
And if the sec is overrated than why do we keep winning the BCS title
Death valley is one of the hardest places In the country to play at
When sc played ga williams brace was the loudest stadium in the country
If we played against fl at home we may have one keep in mind tht again the swamp is another EXTERMLY hard place to play at
And if the sec is overrated than why do we keep winning the BCS title
reefraff
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LSU only beat Auburn by 2 and Auburn hasn't beat a team from a BCS conference yet.
Just because the SEC is overrated doesn't mean there aren't good teams there. But this nonsense that it is a dominating conference is just that. You get below Bama, LSU and Florida they are nothing special. And when the good programs can coast past doormats like Vandy, Ol Miss, Miss State(yes, I mean Miss State) and Kentucky plus 2 or 3 non BCS rent a victims it make it a lot easier to make it to the big game. I can't wait to dump this lame system. The new one isn't perfect but at least good teams will get the shot to play their way into the big game.
Just because the SEC is overrated doesn't mean there aren't good teams there. But this nonsense that it is a dominating conference is just that. You get below Bama, LSU and Florida they are nothing special. And when the good programs can coast past doormats like Vandy, Ol Miss, Miss State(yes, I mean Miss State) and Kentucky plus 2 or 3 non BCS rent a victims it make it a lot easier to make it to the big game. I can't wait to dump this lame system. The new one isn't perfect but at least good teams will get the shot to play their way into the big game.
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497781
LSU only beat Auburn by 2 and Auburn hasn't beat a team from a BCS conference yet.
Just because the SEC is overrated doesn't mean there aren't good teams there. But this nonsense that it is a dominating conference is just that. You get below Bama, LSU and Florida they are nothing special. And when the good programs can coast past doormats like Vandy, Ol Miss, Miss State(yes, I mean Miss State) and Kentucky plus 2 or 3 non BCS rent a victims it make it a lot easier to make it to the big game. I can't wait to dump this lame system. The new one isn't perfect but at least good teams will get the shot to play their way into the big game.
The BCS has always ranked teams by this computerized "strength of schedule" theory. When rankings come out at the first of the year, they normally base those rankings from previous years standings. The SEC has been deemed the "Powerhouse Conference" by one simple fact - Which Conference has won the most BCS Championship Titles in the last 10 years?
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497781
LSU only beat Auburn by 2 and Auburn hasn't beat a team from a BCS conference yet.
Just because the SEC is overrated doesn't mean there aren't good teams there. But this nonsense that it is a dominating conference is just that. You get below Bama, LSU and Florida they are nothing special. And when the good programs can coast past doormats like Vandy, Ol Miss, Miss State(yes, I mean Miss State) and Kentucky plus 2 or 3 non BCS rent a victims it make it a lot easier to make it to the big game. I can't wait to dump this lame system. The new one isn't perfect but at least good teams will get the shot to play their way into the big game.
The BCS has always ranked teams by this computerized "strength of schedule" theory. When rankings come out at the first of the year, they normally base those rankings from previous years standings. The SEC has been deemed the "Powerhouse Conference" by one simple fact - Which Conference has won the most BCS Championship Titles in the last 10 years?
littledynam1te
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At home we would have beaten LSU and maybe maybe fl sc is still no joke mistakes is what killes us everytime
reefraff
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497785
The BCS has always ranked teams by this computerized "strength of schedule" theory. When rankings come out at the first of the year, they normally base those rankings from previous years standings. The SEC has been deemed the "Powerhouse Conference" by one simple fact - Which Conference has won the most BCS Championship Titles in the last 10 years?
Having one strong team doesn't make the other teams in the conference good. Look at Miss State. 7-0 and ranked like 11th. 4 of their wins are against Jackson State, Troy, South Alabama and Middle Tennessee. Of their BCS games they've won Auburn's only win this year came against ULM and Kentucky beat Kent State. That leaves one game, Tennessee as a BCS team they've played with more than one win. Tennessee has 3 wins, against NC State, Georgia State and Akron.
What does that matter? One of the stats that goes into strength of schedule is an opponent's ranking when you play them. When Bama plays them their strength of schedule formula will reflect them beating the 11th ranked team in the nation even though the team will finish unranked this year after at least 3 consecutive losses and more likely 5 to finish the season. They also get credit for beating 9th ranked Arkansas who also sucks this year with their only 2 BCS wins coming against Auburn and Kentucky. That is how scheduling beginning of the year patsies helps pad a league's SOS rating. The rankings only influence the two human polls in the BCS but the win loss record is part of each of the 5 computer polls. You might not think that is important but if it comes down to multiple undefeated or one loss teams it makes all the difference in the world.
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497785
The BCS has always ranked teams by this computerized "strength of schedule" theory. When rankings come out at the first of the year, they normally base those rankings from previous years standings. The SEC has been deemed the "Powerhouse Conference" by one simple fact - Which Conference has won the most BCS Championship Titles in the last 10 years?
Having one strong team doesn't make the other teams in the conference good. Look at Miss State. 7-0 and ranked like 11th. 4 of their wins are against Jackson State, Troy, South Alabama and Middle Tennessee. Of their BCS games they've won Auburn's only win this year came against ULM and Kentucky beat Kent State. That leaves one game, Tennessee as a BCS team they've played with more than one win. Tennessee has 3 wins, against NC State, Georgia State and Akron.
What does that matter? One of the stats that goes into strength of schedule is an opponent's ranking when you play them. When Bama plays them their strength of schedule formula will reflect them beating the 11th ranked team in the nation even though the team will finish unranked this year after at least 3 consecutive losses and more likely 5 to finish the season. They also get credit for beating 9th ranked Arkansas who also sucks this year with their only 2 BCS wins coming against Auburn and Kentucky. That is how scheduling beginning of the year patsies helps pad a league's SOS rating. The rankings only influence the two human polls in the BCS but the win loss record is part of each of the 5 computer polls. You might not think that is important but if it comes down to multiple undefeated or one loss teams it makes all the difference in the world.
theclemsonkid
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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497790
At home we would have beaten LSU and maybe maybe fl sc is still no joke mistakes is what killes us everytime
Really? Just take the lumps like a man and quit acting like you are so much better than you played on the field. If you think you would have "maybe" beaten Floria at Bryce, then you are on bath salts. The Gators made you the red headed step child. It wasn't even close. And you say it's mistakes?!? You know who doesn't make mistakes? REALLY GOOD TEAMS. The good news, is that when Alabama wins it all, you can at least say you guys come from the same conference. And you can bash the ACC, Big 10, etc in a vain attempt to bury the fact that your team was a fraud from the start...
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497790
At home we would have beaten LSU and maybe maybe fl sc is still no joke mistakes is what killes us everytime
Really? Just take the lumps like a man and quit acting like you are so much better than you played on the field. If you think you would have "maybe" beaten Floria at Bryce, then you are on bath salts. The Gators made you the red headed step child. It wasn't even close. And you say it's mistakes?!? You know who doesn't make mistakes? REALLY GOOD TEAMS. The good news, is that when Alabama wins it all, you can at least say you guys come from the same conference. And you can bash the ACC, Big 10, etc in a vain attempt to bury the fact that your team was a fraud from the start...
reefraff
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Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497798
Really? Just take the lumps like a man and quit acting like you are so much better than you played on the field. If you think you would have "maybe" beaten Floria at Bryce, then you are on bath salts. The Gators made you the red headed step child. It wasn't even close. And you say it's mistakes?!? You know who doesn't make mistakes? REALLY GOOD TEAMS. The good news, is that when Alabama wins it all, you can at least say you guys come from the same conference. And you can bash the ACC, Big 10, etc in a vain attempt to bury the fact that your team was a fraud from the start...
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked to see them struggle against Arkansas and Tennessee and I think Clemson will beat them.
Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497798
Really? Just take the lumps like a man and quit acting like you are so much better than you played on the field. If you think you would have "maybe" beaten Floria at Bryce, then you are on bath salts. The Gators made you the red headed step child. It wasn't even close. And you say it's mistakes?!? You know who doesn't make mistakes? REALLY GOOD TEAMS. The good news, is that when Alabama wins it all, you can at least say you guys come from the same conference. And you can bash the ACC, Big 10, etc in a vain attempt to bury the fact that your team was a fraud from the start...
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked to see them struggle against Arkansas and Tennessee and I think Clemson will beat them.
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497797
Having one strong team doesn't make the other teams in the conference good. Look at Miss State. 7-0 and ranked like 11th. 4 of their wins are against Jackson State, Troy, South Alabama and Middle Tennessee. Of their BCS games they've won Auburn's only win this year came against ULM and Kentucky beat Kent State. That leaves one game, Tennessee as a BCS team they've played with more than one win. Tennessee has 3 wins, against NC State, Georgia State and Akron.
What does that matter? One of the stats that goes into strength of schedule is an opponent's ranking when you play them. When Bama plays them their strength of schedule formula will reflect them beating the 11th ranked team in the nation even though the team will finish unranked this year after at least 3 consecutive losses and more likely 5 to finish the season. They also get credit for beating 9th ranked Arkansas who also sucks this year with their only 2 BCS wins coming against Auburn and Kentucky. That is how scheduling beginning of the year patsies helps pad a league's SOS rating. The rankings only influence the two human polls in the BCS but the win loss record is part of each of the 5 computer polls. You might not think that is important but if it comes down to multiple undefeated or one loss teams it makes all the difference in the world.
Having one strong team?
BCS Champion:
03-04 : LSU
06-07 : Florida
07-08 : LSU
08-09 : Florida
09-10 : Alabama
10-11 : Auburn
11-12 : Alabama
How is that ONE team?
Why do you think teams like Boise St. or Utah were passed over for the BCS Championship? Because the majority of teams they faced during the season weren't even ranked to begin with. Just because you go through the season undefeated doesn't mean you deserve a shot when you're opponents are a bunch of Division 2 teams or teams that weren't even ranked from the beginning.
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497797
Having one strong team doesn't make the other teams in the conference good. Look at Miss State. 7-0 and ranked like 11th. 4 of their wins are against Jackson State, Troy, South Alabama and Middle Tennessee. Of their BCS games they've won Auburn's only win this year came against ULM and Kentucky beat Kent State. That leaves one game, Tennessee as a BCS team they've played with more than one win. Tennessee has 3 wins, against NC State, Georgia State and Akron.
What does that matter? One of the stats that goes into strength of schedule is an opponent's ranking when you play them. When Bama plays them their strength of schedule formula will reflect them beating the 11th ranked team in the nation even though the team will finish unranked this year after at least 3 consecutive losses and more likely 5 to finish the season. They also get credit for beating 9th ranked Arkansas who also sucks this year with their only 2 BCS wins coming against Auburn and Kentucky. That is how scheduling beginning of the year patsies helps pad a league's SOS rating. The rankings only influence the two human polls in the BCS but the win loss record is part of each of the 5 computer polls. You might not think that is important but if it comes down to multiple undefeated or one loss teams it makes all the difference in the world.
Having one strong team?
BCS Champion:
03-04 : LSU
06-07 : Florida
07-08 : LSU
08-09 : Florida
09-10 : Alabama
10-11 : Auburn
11-12 : Alabama
How is that ONE team?
Why do you think teams like Boise St. or Utah were passed over for the BCS Championship? Because the majority of teams they faced during the season weren't even ranked to begin with. Just because you go through the season undefeated doesn't mean you deserve a shot when you're opponents are a bunch of Division 2 teams or teams that weren't even ranked from the beginning.
littledynam1te
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Stadium makes a big difference deathvallys LSU and the swamp fl are to f the hardest places to play and atleast sc plays somebody all Clemson lays is sc vt gt so I think u can't step of and well talk after sc beat clemson like a red headed step child
littledynam1te
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Have 2 bad games against top teams in the hardest stadiums and some people say Clemson ten and ark will beat us
reefraff
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497800
Having one strong team?
BCS Champion:
03-04 : LSU
06-07 : Florida
07-08 : LSU
08-09 : Florida
09-10 : Alabama
10-11 : Auburn
11-12 : Alabama
How is that ONE team?
Why do you think teams like Boise St. or Utah were passed over for the BCS Championship? Because the majority of teams they faced during the season weren't even ranked to begin with. Just because you go through the season undefeated doesn't mean you deserve a shot when you're opponents are a bunch of Division 2 teams or teams that weren't even ranked from the beginning.
You've had one year, last year where the SEC played itself in the championship game. All the years you list you had one or two good teams and a bunch of overrated mediocre teams and 4 perennial doormats in the conference. You talk smack about Utah and Boise's schedule but that's the same point I am trying to make. Top to bottom the SEC schedules 3 and even 4 out of conference doormats on a regular basis. But the other conferences are learning. In 08 USC's out of conference schedule was Virginia, Ohio State and Notre Dame. This year they did Hawaii, Syracuse and Notre Dame. But still they play 9 conference opponents this year. Bama plays Michigan, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and western Carolina. Only 4 of their 12 games are on the road. LSU plays North Texas, Washington, Idaho and Towson and again, only 4 road games. Florida goes for the "tough" schedule playing Bowling Green, Louisiana Laf, Jacksonville state and Florida state and a brutal 5 road games LOL!
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497800
Having one strong team?
BCS Champion:
03-04 : LSU
06-07 : Florida
07-08 : LSU
08-09 : Florida
09-10 : Alabama
10-11 : Auburn
11-12 : Alabama
How is that ONE team?
Why do you think teams like Boise St. or Utah were passed over for the BCS Championship? Because the majority of teams they faced during the season weren't even ranked to begin with. Just because you go through the season undefeated doesn't mean you deserve a shot when you're opponents are a bunch of Division 2 teams or teams that weren't even ranked from the beginning.
You've had one year, last year where the SEC played itself in the championship game. All the years you list you had one or two good teams and a bunch of overrated mediocre teams and 4 perennial doormats in the conference. You talk smack about Utah and Boise's schedule but that's the same point I am trying to make. Top to bottom the SEC schedules 3 and even 4 out of conference doormats on a regular basis. But the other conferences are learning. In 08 USC's out of conference schedule was Virginia, Ohio State and Notre Dame. This year they did Hawaii, Syracuse and Notre Dame. But still they play 9 conference opponents this year. Bama plays Michigan, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and western Carolina. Only 4 of their 12 games are on the road. LSU plays North Texas, Washington, Idaho and Towson and again, only 4 road games. Florida goes for the "tough" schedule playing Bowling Green, Louisiana Laf, Jacksonville state and Florida state and a brutal 5 road games LOL!
reefraff
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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497805
Have 2 bad games against top teams in the hardest stadiums and some people say Clemson ten and ark will beat us
You need to brush up on your English comprehension. I said they would struggle against Ark and Tenn, not lose though they could. I do think Clemson will beat them.
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497805
Have 2 bad games against top teams in the hardest stadiums and some people say Clemson ten and ark will beat us
You need to brush up on your English comprehension. I said they would struggle against Ark and Tenn, not lose though they could. I do think Clemson will beat them.
littledynam1te
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We will be clemson
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497815
You've had one year, last year where the SEC played itself in the championship game. All the years you list you had one or two good teams and a bunch of overrated mediocre teams and 4 perennial doormats in the conference. You talk smack about Utah and Boise's schedule but that's the same point I am trying to make. Top to bottom the SEC schedules 3 and even 4 out of conference doormats on a regular basis. But the other conferences are learning. In 08 USC's out of conference schedule was Virginia, Ohio State and Notre Dame. This year they did Hawaii, Syracuse and Notre Dame. But still they play 9 conference opponents this year. Bama plays Michigan, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and western Carolina. Only 4 of their 12 games are on the road. LSU plays North Texas, Washington, Idaho and Towson and again, only 4 road games. Florida goes for the "tough" schedule playing Bowling Green, Louisiana Laf, Jacksonville state and Florida state and a brutal 5 road games LOL!
Go looik at the patsy teams the Big 12 plays at the beginning of the season every year. Notre Dame is having a good season this year, but how many previous year's were they the patsy/whipping boy team?
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497815
You've had one year, last year where the SEC played itself in the championship game. All the years you list you had one or two good teams and a bunch of overrated mediocre teams and 4 perennial doormats in the conference. You talk smack about Utah and Boise's schedule but that's the same point I am trying to make. Top to bottom the SEC schedules 3 and even 4 out of conference doormats on a regular basis. But the other conferences are learning. In 08 USC's out of conference schedule was Virginia, Ohio State and Notre Dame. This year they did Hawaii, Syracuse and Notre Dame. But still they play 9 conference opponents this year. Bama plays Michigan, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and western Carolina. Only 4 of their 12 games are on the road. LSU plays North Texas, Washington, Idaho and Towson and again, only 4 road games. Florida goes for the "tough" schedule playing Bowling Green, Louisiana Laf, Jacksonville state and Florida state and a brutal 5 road games LOL!
Go looik at the patsy teams the Big 12 plays at the beginning of the season every year. Notre Dame is having a good season this year, but how many previous year's were they the patsy/whipping boy team?
reefraff
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497845
Go looik at the patsy teams the Big 12 plays at the beginning of the season every year. Notre Dame is having a good season this year, but how many previous year's were they the patsy/whipping boy team?
The 12 has a pattern of 2 patsies and one good OOC, better than the SUC LOL!
Big 10 probably comes closest.
In the last 10 seasons Notre Dame has only had a losing record twice.
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497845
Go looik at the patsy teams the Big 12 plays at the beginning of the season every year. Notre Dame is having a good season this year, but how many previous year's were they the patsy/whipping boy team?
The 12 has a pattern of 2 patsies and one good OOC, better than the SUC LOL!
Big 10 probably comes closest.
In the last 10 seasons Notre Dame has only had a losing record twice.
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497862
The 12 has a pattern of 2 patsies and one good OOC, better than the SUC LOL!
Big 10 probably comes closest.
In the last 10 seasons Notre Dame has only had a losing record twice.
When's the last time Notre Dame has been in the BCS Championship? Oh wait, all they have to do is finish in the Top 8, and they get an automatic bid into a BCS Bowl per the "Notre Dame Rule"...
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497862
The 12 has a pattern of 2 patsies and one good OOC, better than the SUC LOL!
Big 10 probably comes closest.
In the last 10 seasons Notre Dame has only had a losing record twice.
When's the last time Notre Dame has been in the BCS Championship? Oh wait, all they have to do is finish in the Top 8, and they get an automatic bid into a BCS Bowl per the "Notre Dame Rule"...
reefraff
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497908
When's the last time Notre Dame has been in the BCS Championship? Oh wait, all they have to do is finish in the Top 8, and they get an automatic bid into a BCS Bowl per the "Notre Dame Rule"...
2002, 2005, 2006, 2010, 2011 played in BCS bowls. Yep, doormat.
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497908
When's the last time Notre Dame has been in the BCS Championship? Oh wait, all they have to do is finish in the Top 8, and they get an automatic bid into a BCS Bowl per the "Notre Dame Rule"...
2002, 2005, 2006, 2010, 2011 played in BCS bowls. Yep, doormat.
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497929
2002, 2005, 2006, 2010, 2011 played in BCS bowls. Yep, doormat.
Yea. Like I said. All they had to do is make Top 8 and they got an automatic bid. What were their actual ranks those years, and were there teams with better records, but got pushed out because of the "Notre Dame Rule"?
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393183/ncaa-football/80#post_3497929
2002, 2005, 2006, 2010, 2011 played in BCS bowls. Yep, doormat.
Yea. Like I said. All they had to do is make Top 8 and they got an automatic bid. What were their actual ranks those years, and were there teams with better records, but got pushed out because of the "Notre Dame Rule"?