New Seahorse tank Diary

flower

flower

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Oh yes I member reading about the pipe fish being wild caught. I was answering this post complete with pictures and my computer hic upped and I lost what I had typed so I gave up for a while.. I had red cardinals once, I seldom seen them. The banggai look like the angelfish in freshwater tanks. The PJ look cool in the book but in real life...no.
My seahorse tank is too shallow and open for any kind of dartfish. If I weren’t so paranoid about putting anything in my big tank I would get a firefish for that one. They are a nice little fish.
I added some mushrooms and Kenya Tree to the tank today and I managed to get my sponge from the 90g. It looked like it was attached to a huge rock but it was not. There isn’t that much left of it but it might do better in this tank. Nothing is really placed just set in the tank for now to adjust to the new world. LOL...The coraline is so thick and dark on the rocks from the other tank and really look strange against the very light wall of the new tank. Everythingis still pretty mad about being moved.



 
flower

flower

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I think I have changed my mind on needing the skimmer right away. I think I will order my cuc and macroalgae, some more sponges and leave the organic floating around to let the algae and and sponges gorge for a bit. I just put on the lights about 40 minutes ago, the Kenya tree is opening already and so are the green mushrooms, the blues never closed. LOL...I have had that rock of mushrooms since my first 55g saltwater tank, so this the 4th tank I have seeded with blue mushrooms from it.
I put the red pipe organ skeleton in the new fuge for the tiny things to live in along with a rock. I will seed that with copepods and some macro.
Does that sound like a doable thing or am ahead of myself? I have the canister running as well and will continue with that until I hook up a skimmer. I'm sort of hoping that by the middle of February to get my (females only) horses.
I was planing on four horses, seahorses source says 2 pair for a 30g tank...
But I'm not sure, I don't want to overcrowd them...I will only introduce two to start then wait a month, and then introduce two more...maybe
 
monsinour

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copepods will need microalgea to grow and thrive. Something l learned from my meeting on sunday. Placing copepods in a fuge with no real source of food will mean they will find a place for food and travel to the DT. Here the horses will eat them and you would be out of copepods. Copepods are small and need to eat plenty of food. But we want them to be able to eat the food. Imagine if I tried to shove a hamhock or some other large cut of meat down your throat. It wouldnt work at all right? Sure the meat is good for ya, but if you cant fit it into your mouth, whats the point? Microalgea is the proper size to fit into the mouth of a copepod. Providng a good home for these things is nice, LR rubble and macro to hide in, but we also need to be sure they have something to eat as well. Once the copepods like living where they do, and there is plenty of food for them, then the extras will make their way up to the DT and become horse food.
 
teresaq

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Adult horse dont eat copepods. lol they are way toooo small. They eat things more the size of adult mysis and ghost shrimp. They have even been known to eat small cleaner shrimp.
 
novahobbies

novahobbies

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TeresaQ http:///forum/thread/382639/new-seahorse-tank-diary/220#post_3353945
Adult horse dont eat copepods. lol they are way toooo small. They eat things more the size of adult mysis and ghost shrimp. They have even been known to eat small cleaner shrimp.
....and peppermint shrimp!
My H. reidis hunted down and viciously slaughtered both peps I put in the tank to control aptasia back in the day. Poor buggers didn't stand a chance.....
Adult horses won't eat copepods, 'tis true. They will, however actively hunt in the rock for large, tasty amphipods. I think it's nice to have a stock of amphis in the tank to provide between-meal snacks.
 
flower

flower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TeresaQ http:///forum/thread/382639/new-seahorse-tank-diary/220#post_3353945
Adult horse dont eat copepods. lol they are way toooo small. They eat things more the size of adult mysis and ghost shrimp. They have even been known to eat small cleaner shrimp.

All that trouble for a refugium and they don't eat copepods! They do eat amphipods... I already have a bunch of those, but do amphipods travel between tank and refugium? I know they get and seem to live happy in my canister filter. I no doubt will be getting a Mandarine or a scooter later on.
 
teresaq

teresaq

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This I agree with. Amphipods would be much better to seed a seahorse tank with then copepods, ut copepods are better for a mandrine or scooter . lol
I have two peps in my tank, they have been in there since before the horses and are quite lrg. The horses don't bother them.
 
flower

flower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TeresaQ http:///forum/thread/382639/new-seahorse-tank-diary/220#post_3353990
This I agree with. Amphipods would be much better to seed a seahorse tank with then copepods, ut copepods are better for a mandrine or scooter . lol
I have two peps in my tank, they have been in there since before the horses and are quite lrg. The horses don't bother them.

If I seed the refugium with amphipods...do you think will they get past the pump and get into the tanks water? I would love the idea of a constant supply of the critters for them to hunt and eat. If I seed the tank with them it’s just a matter of time before they are depleted.
 
novahobbies

novahobbies

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/382639/new-seahorse-tank-diary/220#post_3354015
Quote:
Originally Posted by TeresaQ http:///forum/thread/382639/new-seahorse-tank-diary/220#post_3353990
This I agree with. Amphipods would be much better to seed a seahorse tank with then copepods, ut copepods are better for a mandrine or scooter . lol
I have two peps in my tank, they have been in there since before the horses and are quite lrg. The horses don't bother them.

If I seed the refugium with amphipods...do you think will they get past the pump and get into the tanks water? I would love the idea of a constant supply of the critters for them to hunt and eat. If I seed the tank with them it’s just a matter of time before they are depleted.
Unlike many other Crustacea, amphipods do not go through many different physiologic morphologies as they mature. In essence, young amphipods look like smaller (sometimes MUCH smaller) versions of the adults. Young amphipods will no doubt make the transition from refugium to main tank safely. Adults, maybe not so often This is immaterial, though, if you consider the fuge as a safe place for the adults to breed, releasing the young into the water column to be swept along into the display tank.
In short, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Your fuge will provide pods in abundance for your livestock to snack on. The ones that are sacrificed to the Great Impeller God will be a small percentage compared to the ones that get through.
 
flower

flower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by novahobbies http:///forum/thread/382639/new-seahorse-tank-diary/220#post_3354078
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/382639/new-seahorse-tank-diary/220#post_3354015
Quote:
Originally Posted by TeresaQ http:///forum/thread/382639/new-seahorse-tank-diary/220#post_3353990
This I agree with. Amphipods would be much better to seed a seahorse tank with then copepods, ut copepods are better for a mandrine or scooter . lol
I have two peps in my tank, they have been in there since before the horses and are quite lrg. The horses don't bother them.

If I seed the refugium with amphipods...do you think will they get past the pump and get into the tanks water? I would love the idea of a constant supply of the critters for them to hunt and eat. If I seed the tank with them it’s just a matter of time before they are depleted.
Unlike many other Crustacea, amphipods do not go through many different physiologic morphologies as they mature. In essence, young amphipods look like smaller (sometimes MUCH smaller) versions of the adults. Young amphipods will no doubt make the transition from refugium to main tank safely. Adults, maybe not so often This is immaterial, though, if you consider the fuge as a safe place for the adults to breed, releasing the young into the water column to be swept along into the display tank.
In short, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Your fuge will provide pods in abundance for your livestock to snack on. The ones that are sacrificed to the Great Impeller God will be a small percentage compared to the ones that get through.
Thank you, that's all I needed to know.
 
flower

flower

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Can a christmas tree coral (sphaerella krempfi), be kept with seahorses? It says peaceful and does not require strong lights..
 
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