Obama supporters. I have one question

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2567043
Hey, it's an extra shift, too! Time and a half, plus $11 an hour. And, I have one 87 yo pt, sedated, chemically paralyzed and on a ventilator. I am code nurse, though so if someone tries to die, I'll be busy enough. It is ultra cool to be paid for being experienced and college educated. Sure beats working for minimum wage at Home Depot!
Plus, I can feel good about what I did at work, not like those Haliburton guys do in Iraq.
Interesting part is, as nurses retire, the cost of us is going to skyrocket!
Geez, O is right. Some people really are bitter!

Bitter? I must have hit a nerve somewhere. Because your constant reference to my part-time job at home depot keeps coming up.
See here is the thing (not that I have to explain it to you because you won't read it) I own my own business. I most likely make more in a year than you do and didn't have to have all the schooling you did. I was just smart enough to figure out how to be the man instead of working for the man. I work Part-time at HD. I have 2 days a week I am scheduled to work. The rest of my schedule is is open. If I feel like going I go in and if not I don't. I do it because I enjoy helping people better their lives and their future....how do I do this? By explain how to fix things they can fix themselves instead of calling the electrician, plumber, painters, or landscape guys. See I save people money in the long run. In return I get compensated for my knowledge by home depot well....(think journeymans electrician pay if you have any idea how much they make) I get my family's health insurance at a much cheaper rate and I earn it. It is not given to me by some state funded or federally funded program. I continue working there because the management team appreciates me and my work ethic (something you should check into) all up to the district level as they are suprised to see such drive and work ethic in PART-TIME employee that they rarely see in a full time guy.
I have been an assistant plant manager for a large finishing shop in Minneapolis for many years before I moved and started my own business.
So you keep taking your shots. That is the difference between you and I. I didn't get a college education. I couldn't afford it, didn't want to take a grant I would have to pay back, and didn't apply for scholarships because I was planning on the militarey as a career. When I got threw a curve ball with the military career I didn't whine, I didn't complain. I took what I had and used it to actually live "the american dream".
As far as home depot goes, I can walk away anytime I want and it won't hurt my lifestyle any....can you say so much about your job....lol.....thought not. Home depot is a hobby, so keep making those cracks...you will just look foolish as that is all you can do but crack on my "hobby"....makes me wonder how far down that nose you look at retail people when you wish to buy something.
 

suzy

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Hey, guys! Don't fret too much. I live in Utah and the nurses here top out at around $40 an hour. Not like in Ca where they are getting close to $50 an hour. The unlimited OT and bonuses are cool, though. I think it's great there are so many people who are going to fight any changes to our health care system. You guys rock! If you can just keep it up for 20 more years or so, I can retire early!
 

oscardeuce

Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2567631
Bitter? I must have hit a nerve somewhere. Because your constant reference to my part-time job at home depot keeps coming up.
See here is the thing (not that I have to explain it to you because you won't read it) I own my own business. I most likely make more in a year than you do and didn't have to have all the schooling you did. I was just smart enough to figure out how to be the man instead of working for the man. I work Part-time at HD. I have 2 days a week I am scheduled to work. The rest of my schedule is is open. If I feel like going I go in and if not I don't. I do it because I enjoy helping people better their lives and their future....how do I do this? By explain how to fix things they can fix themselves instead of calling the electrician, plumber, painters, or landscape guys. See I save people money in the long run. In return I get compensated for my knowledge by home depot well....(think journeymans electrician pay if you have any idea how much they make) I get my family's health insurance at a much cheaper rate and I earn it. It is not given to me by some state funded or federally funded program. I continue working there because the management team appreciates me and my work ethic (something you should check into) all up to the district level as they are suprised to see such drive and work ethic in PART-TIME employee that they rarely see in a full time guy.
I have been an assistant plant manager for a large finishing shop in Minneapolis for many years before I moved and started my own business.
So you keep taking your shots. That is the difference between you and I. I didn't get a college education. I couldn't afford it, didn't want to take a grant I would have to pay back, and didn't apply for scholarships because I was planning on the militarey as a career. When I got threw a curve ball with the military career I didn't whine, I didn't complain. I took what I had and used it to actually live "the american dream".
As far as home depot goes, I can walk away anytime I want and it won't hurt my lifestyle any....can you say so much about your job....lol.....thought not. Home depot is a hobby, so keep making those cracks...you will just look foolish as that is all you can do but crack on my "hobby"....makes me wonder how far down that nose you look at retail people when you wish to buy something.

Now, here's a "typical american" in my mind. He's got his own business, still helps others as a "hobby", and adapts and overcomes adversity without crying to the gov't for help, or entitlement.
Hat's off!
 

oscardeuce

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2567338
Thank GOD above for people like you making a positive difference in peoples life. I am greatful for people whom do your job and make people feel better.
I know when I have had to take my kids into the hospital some nurses are carefree and it certainly shows.
I have to say we have people like you and I am proud of you and for what you do no matter which side of the political side you are on.
:::;tips hat::::
Thanks
It's hard work, but rewarding.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2567631
Bitter? I must have hit a nerve somewhere. Because your constant reference to my part-time job at home depot keeps coming up.
See here is the thing (not that I have to explain it to you because you won't read it) I own my own business. I most likely make more in a year than you do and didn't have to have all the schooling you did. I was just smart enough to figure out how to be the man instead of working for the man. I work Part-time at HD. I have 2 days a week I am scheduled to work. The rest of my schedule is is open. If I feel like going I go in and if not I don't. I do it because I enjoy helping people better their lives and their future....how do I do this? By explain how to fix things they can fix themselves instead of calling the electrician, plumber, painters, or landscape guys. See I save people money in the long run. In return I get compensated for my knowledge by home depot well....(think journeymans electrician pay if you have any idea how much they make) I get my family's health insurance at a much cheaper rate and I earn it. It is not given to me by some state funded or federally funded program. I continue working there because the management team appreciates me and my work ethic (something you should check into) all up to the district level as they are suprised to see such drive and work ethic in PART-TIME employee that they rarely see in a full time guy.
I have been an assistant plant manager for a large finishing shop in Minneapolis for many years before I moved and started my own business.
So you keep taking your shots. That is the difference between you and I. I didn't get a college education. I couldn't afford it, didn't want to take a grant I would have to pay back, and didn't apply for scholarships because I was planning on the militarey as a career. When I got threw a curve ball with the military career I didn't whine, I didn't complain. I took what I had and used it to actually live "the american dream".
As far as home depot goes, I can walk away anytime I want and it won't hurt my lifestyle any....can you say so much about your job....lol.....thought not. Home depot is a hobby, so keep making those cracks...you will just look foolish as that is all you can do but crack on my "hobby"....makes me wonder how far down that nose you look at retail people when you wish to buy something.
LOL, I love it, in America, people work for a hobby!
How good is this country? There are enough jobs for those who REALLy want them were we don't need to but we work anyways?
Yeah Suzy america is really crumbling. Keep wishing.
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2567678
I live in Utah and the nurses here top out at around $40 an hour. Not like in Ca where they are getting close to $50 an hour.

Impressive. The first job scale where those at the bottom make more than those at the top. I am surprised. Considering the average salary for a Director of nursing in Utah is about 40,000.......give or take 10,000. Of course, I did take note that you didn't say YOU make forty an hour.
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2567681
Now, here's a "typical american" in my mind. He's got his own business, still helps others as a "hobby", and adapts and overcomes adversity without crying to the gov't for help, or entitlement.
Hat's off!

I am doing nothing more than any other person should do. It is called life. If life was easy there would be no need for god and heaven.
 

rylan1

Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2566958
No, what I said was sexist.....but you proved my point. Thanks.
I think this is being blown out of context... I admit Obama would have been better off using a different word because of the possibility of it being taken the wrong way... I think "average" or "not out of the ordinary" would have been better recieved.
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2567986
I think this is being blown out of context... I admit Obama would have been better off using a different word because of the possibility of it being taken the wrong way... I think "average" or "not out of the ordinary" would have been better recieved.

That wasn't my point. But neither of those statements would have flown with many of us. essentially Obama said that the "average" white person utters racially charged language or words on a occassional basis. Basically stating the average white person is quick to utter a racial slur towards someone or about someone more so than than any other race.....that is how I took. Now does it bother me? No....His policies alone were enough for me to see he is not fit to be president.
 

rylan1

Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2566700
Not true.
*McCain isn't a Socialist
*Isn't associated with domestic terrorists
*Won't warp our Foreign Policy to meet the demands of our enemies
Well lets look at this latest proposal of gas tax holiday which well further put us into a deficit.... All republicans candidates need to say to get in office is....
"No New Taxes!" - which we've heard before, and was a lie.
But this shows how clueless McCain is... first gas is going to be $4 anyway... I believe the proposal would take $0.18 a gallon, which isn't a huge savings...about $2.88 for an average car.. But what this would do is create a $10 billion shortage for our bridges and roads projects...which are already a concern. This tax directly goes towards roads... and here in Ohio it would be a major issue.. we have bridges that need rebuilt... not to mention the seasonal pot-hole problem, which after a heavy snow season..we drastically need filled.
 

rylan1

Active Member
Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
http:///forum/post/2567563
I have quoted NObama's postion in this and other thread regarding terrorists...he'd like to give them healthcare. He has NO clue the type of individuals he is dealing with.
They only recognize strength and take advantage of weakensses...that's why they are called terrorists.
McCain understands the enemy...the liberal left embraces the enemy as friend ans wished to cast America and are soldiers as the actual enemy.
I have a good read on Nobama.....he's far left and he continues to prove me right with his associations, statemetn and judgemnt.
he has proven that he does not have the cognitive skill to understand the enemy.
If one beleives chatting with the terrorists over milk and cookies and giving them healthcare is the answer....that's someone that is living in Oz. They ONLY understand strength.
How does McCain know the enemy when he doesn't even know the difference b/w Shiite and Sunni ?
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568069
Well lets look at this latest proposal of gas tax holiday which well further put us into a deficit.... All republicans candidates need to say to get in office is....
"No New Taxes!" - which we've heard before, and was a lie.
But this shows how clueless McCain is... first gas is going to be $4 anyway... I believe the proposal would take $0.18 a gallon, which isn't a huge savings...about $2.88 for an average car.. But what this would do is create a $10 billion shortage for our bridges and roads projects...which are already a concern. This tax directly goes towards roads... and here in Ohio it would be a major issue.. we have bridges that need rebuilt... not to mention the seasonal pot-hole problem, which after a heavy snow season..we drastically need filled.
Here's an idea then; How about you Ohioans fix your own roads???
When exactly did we lose the Constitutional principle of States' rights and the inherent responsibility that goes along with that concept?
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568069
Well lets look at this latest proposal of gas tax holiday which well further put us into a deficit.... All republicans candidates need to say to get in office is....
"No New Taxes!" - which we've heard before, and was a lie.
But this shows how clueless McCain is... first gas is going to be $4 anyway... I believe the proposal would take $0.18 a gallon, which isn't a huge savings...about $2.88 for an average car.. But what this would do is create a $10 billion shortage for our bridges and roads projects...which are already a concern. This tax directly goes towards roads... and here in Ohio it would be a major issue.. we have bridges that need rebuilt... not to mention the seasonal pot-hole problem, which after a heavy snow season..we drastically need filled.
lol, one out of the gazillion bridges collapse and there is already a concern.
On a more serious note, you libs scream bloody murder about the fuel prices, and someone goes and says you know what maybe we should actually do something to actually lower it for a few months, and you oppose that too? what are you libs actually for?
 

oscardeuce

Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568069
All republicans candidates need to say to get in office is....
"No New Taxes!" - which we've heard before, and was a lie.
.

Rylan,
The last I looked this country was basically founded on "no new taxes".
BTW snow does not cause pot holes, it is the freeze/thaw cycle.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568073
How does McCain know the enemy when he doesn't even know the difference b/w Shiite and Sunni ?
Actually, both factions have components that are our enemies...
Al Qeada claims to be Sunni. Iran, Sadr's army and Hezbollah are Shiite. Please pass that tidbit of info along to the various left wing blogs that can't seem to acknowledge it...
On the other hand, Barak seems incapable of believing Al Qaeda is even in Iraq today.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2568078
.. what are you libs actually for?
Socialism and Isolationism.
Not all libs, but certainly the ones on these threads posting. They want price control, Government control of the oil and medical fields, no involvement in foreign affairs, etc.
 

rylan1

Active Member
Suzy;2567043 said:
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Suzy, I must say I am glad to have some democratic support... Seems most here are republicans... No candidate is perfect... and I have these same debates with my co-workers.. I find it interesting how many GOP's didn't like McCain... I initially thought of him as a possible option if Obama didn't make it, but the more I here... the more it will be a continuation of Bush policy... It seems to me that now that Bush is a lame duck... he is coming around a little bit... My view of him continues to be negative, but not as much as before... but what we don't need is another term with these policies... We have so much going on... we need something new... Its gas, food, economy... and much much more. Food has risen more in the past year, than it has in the last 15 years. McCain doesn't have a solution... Hope and inspiration is something we actually need right now... We need a new coach who is going to lift the morale of this country.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2567976
Impressive. The first job scale where those at the bottom make more than those at the top. I am surprised. Considering the average salary for a Director of nursing in Utah is about 40,000.......give or take 10,000. Of course, I did take note that you didn't say YOU make forty an hour.
I tend to doubt people who make grand claims about all their money while running other people's jobs down. She probably dumps bedpans at the old folks home
 

rylan1

Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2568084
Actually, both factions have components that are our enemies...
Al Qeada claims to be Sunni. Iran, Sadr's army and Hezbollah are Shiite. Please pass that tidbit of info along to the various left wing blogs that can't seem to acknowledge it...
On the other hand, Barak seems incapable of believing Al Qaeda is even in Iraq today.
What I am saying is that McCain doesn't know (didn't) the difference. We know they are in Iraq... the point Obama makes is that we brought them there (attracted.. if that is a better word)
 

rylan1

Active Member
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2568081
Rylan,
The last I looked this country was basically founded on "no new taxes".
BTW snow does not cause pot holes, it is the freeze/thaw cycle.
Why doesn't it ...what do you think thaws and freezes?
BTW I was talking about Bush 1
 
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