Obama supporters. I have one question

rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2568078
lol, one out of the gazillion bridges collapse and there is already a concern.
On a more serious note, you libs scream bloody murder about the fuel prices, and someone goes and says you know what maybe we should actually do something to actually lower it for a few months, and you oppose that too? what are you libs actually for?
Yes, how many do you need to collapse before its a problem? There are many bridges that are in the same or near condition as the Minn bridge. Many of our roads are below standard... which is why we have been hearing about investing in our infrastructiure.
Too your point... the Twin Towers where one in gazillon office buildings... why be concerned about more planes? How many have to die before it is worth correcting?
 

jmick

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2568085
Socialism and Isolationism.
Not all libs, but certainly the ones on these threads posting. They want price control, Government control of the oil and medical fields, no involvement in foreign affairs, etc.
You gotta love our current foreign policy of Shock and Awe
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568094
What I am saying is that McCain doesn't know (didn't) the difference. We know they are in Iraq... the point Obama makes is that we brought them there (attracted.. if that is a better word)
Rylan, that is not true in either part.
McCain confused the two. His other statements clearly show he knows Al Qaeda and Iran are both our enemies.
Obama said "It is my strong belief -- and I introduced legislation back in January -- that the only way we’re going to stabilize Iraq and make sure that al Qaeda does not take over in the long term is to begin a phased redeployment so that we don’t have anti-American sentiment as a focal point for al Qaeda in Iraq. We can still have troops in the region, outside of Iraq, that can help on counterterrorism activities, and we’ve got to make sure that they don’t establish long-term bases there
 

rylan1

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2568075
Here's an idea then; How about you Ohioans fix your own roads???
When exactly did we lose the Constitutional principle of States' rights and the inherent responsibility that goes along with that concept?
I'm using Ohio as an example... this budget (fund) directly fixes all roads across America... I used Ohio because our road crew season is coming up now that the snow/cold is gone. Highways and roads are funded by Federal dollars.
Lets use some not so common sense... we can't afford to neglet our roads... it will only compound the issue and expense commuters have.
 

crashbandicoot

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568099
Yes, how many do you need to collapse before its a problem? There are many bridges that are in the same or near condition as the Minn bridge. Many of our roads are below standard... which is why we have been hearing about investing in our infrastructiure.
Too your point... the Twin Towers where one in gazillon office buildings... why be concerned about more planes? How many have to die before it is worth correcting?
Please tell me you did not just compare a bridge colapse to the terrorist attacks ? Please tell me you are not that desperate .
 

jmick

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2568105
Rylan, that is not true in either part.
McCain confused the two. His other statements clearly show he knows Al Qaeda and Iran are both our enemies.[/B][/I]
Bomb bomb bomb. bomb bomb Iran...I know he said that.
Actually, Gramps is easily confused these days...
 

crashbandicoot

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2568100
You gotta love our current foreign policy of Shock and Awe

And you would preffer the policy of " stick head in sand and wait for the boot" ? But then again trying to socilize the medical areas would make removing that boot a little cheeper for some people .

Good point there .
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568099
...Too your point... the Twin Towers where one in gazillon office buildings... why be concerned about more planes? How many have to die before it is worth correcting?
I'm glad you asked... The Constitution of the United States clearly outlines the responsibilities and powers the Federal Government has. DEFENSE is one of those responsibilities. Therefore dealing with foreign entities falls well within the Constitution.
Road work has slowly bled away from State responsibilities by Liberal courts and liberal Congresses abusing section 8 of the constitution regarding "Commerce".
Again; If your bridges and roads need work in your state call your governor and get them fixed.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2568108
Please tell me you did not just compare a bridge colapse to the terrorist attacks ? Please tell me you are not that desperate .
No, he said bridge work was more important than fighting terrorism.
 

reefraff

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Rylan1;2568088 said:
Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2567043
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Suzy, I must say I am glad to have some democratic support... Seems most here are republicans... No candidate is perfect... and I have these same debates with my co-workers.. I find it interesting how many GOP's didn't like McCain... I initially thought of him as a possible option if Obama didn't make it, but the more I here... the more it will be a continuation of Bush policy... It seems to me that now that Bush is a lame duck... he is coming around a little bit... My view of him continues to be negative, but not as much as before... but what we don't need is another term with these policies... We have so much going on... we need something new... Its gas, food, economy... and much much more. Food has risen more in the past year, than it has in the last 15 years. McCain doesn't have a solution... Hope and inspiration is something we actually need right now... We need a new coach who is going to lift the morale of this country.
The two big things that are driving up food prices are oil/gas prices and and ethynol mandates. Your Boy's idea to fix the problem is to increase taxes on the oil companies who will pass the increase costs to the consumers. Yep, that makes sense.
As far as a new coach you want to hire a guy to run a Superbowl contender that warmed the bench his junior year in high school and was on the cheerleading squad in collage. I'll take the crafty ol dodger that was never the star but has been in the game for years.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2568111
Bomb bomb bomb. bomb bomb Iran...I know he said that.
Actually, Gramps is easily confused these days...
So are many of the posters on this thread, and I suspect none of them are that old...
BTW, I'm all for aggressive military action against Iran.
They are directly responsible for the supplying IEDs and rockets to militants to ty to fuel a sectarian war, killing hundreds of USA soldiers in Iraq and training Sadr's army.
 

crashbandicoot

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2568119
No, he said bridge work was more important than fighting terrorism.

Ahhhhhhh!
I can see where it would make so much sence to have a good bridge out of town . So when it hits the fan you have a good escape route .
 

jmick

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2568125
So are many of the posters on this thread, and I suspect none of them are that old...
BTW, I'm all for aggressive military action against Iran.
They are directly responsible for the supplying IEDs and rockets to militants to ty to fuel a sectarian war, killing hundreds of USA soldiers in Iraq and training Sadr's army.

What about the Saudi's, they are supplying bodies and $$ into iraq, should we attack them as well?
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568107
I'm using Ohio as an example... this budget (fund) directly fixes all roads across America... I used Ohio because our road crew season is coming up now that the snow/cold is gone. Highways and roads are funded by Federal dollars.
Lets use some not so common sense... we can't afford to neglet our roads... it will only compound the issue and expense commuters have.

Rylan, your State, cities and counties certainly should have budgets for road repair.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2568129
What about the Saudi's, they are supplying bodies and $$ into iraq, should we attack them as well?
Please provide a link that shows the Saudi Government is providing any support for terrorists in Iraq.
 

jmick

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So Journey, what are we to do about all the money the Saudi's are back- dooring into extremeist groups? Should we continue to let their government take care of it by doing bascially nothing as the $100 + we are paying per barrel is going into terrorist groups or should our govenment take a more active role? I suspect you'd rather take a diplomatic route and not bomb them as you'd have us do with Iran? I'd be willing to bet that the financial impact the Saudi's have on global terrorism is much greater then Iran's.
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568073
How does McCain know the enemy when he doesn't even know the difference b/w Shiite and Sunni ?

He knows the difference, Even Bill Maher went so far as to agree McCain knows the difference and chalks it up as tiredness and over campaigning for his switch ups. When Bill gives a pass I think most should. Considering Bill is more left than most on here.
 
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