Obama supporters. I have one question

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2568228
When said nation does little or nothing to put a halt to the generous donations that many of it's very wealthy members make to extremeist groups what would you call it...other then turning a blind eye? You don't think it'd be wise for us to put pressure on the Saudi's to help curb this? Don't you think it'd be a blow to global terrorism if one of the major areas of funding was cut off? Or do you think the only people funding are related to Bin Laden and it's only a couple of bucks?
One presidential candidate has shown and demonstrated support for terrorists...yet this nation has done nothing regarding insisting he resign from the US Senate based on his ties to terrorism, terrorists, racists and haters.
What would you call it...turning a blind eye?
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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568069
Well lets look at this latest proposal of gas tax holiday which well further put us into a deficit.... All republicans candidates need to say to get in office is....
"No New Taxes!" - which we've heard before, and was a lie.
But this shows how clueless McCain is... first gas is going to be $4 anyway... I believe the proposal would take $0.18 a gallon, which isn't a huge savings...about $2.88 for an average car.. But what this would do is create a $10 billion shortage for our bridges and roads projects...which are already a concern. This tax directly goes towards roads... and here in Ohio it would be a major issue.. we have bridges that need rebuilt... not to mention the seasonal pot-hole problem, which after a heavy snow season..we drastically need filled.
Any reduction via a tax holiday in fuel prices will move through the economy. The cost of fuel also drives up prices of goods as they must be transported to market. Businesses will also see a reduction in the fuel they purchase thus leading to lowering the cost of doinig business.
The lowering of fuel prices will also free up local and state governemnt dollars based on less money spent on gas .....so perhaps they have a few extra bucks to come out and fill that pot hole in front of your house. Brought full circle. One clueless proposal has gotten your pot hole filled...go figger.

 

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Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2568108
Please tell me you did not just compare a bridge colapse to the terrorist attacks ? Please tell me you are not that desperate .
Yep........actually...I think he/she claimes the bridge and roads issue is far more important then any war on terror. Also, looks like we should redirect resources from airline security to potholes.
Perhaps NObama will redeploy our military from fighting terrorists abroad to filling potholes on Main Streets.

 

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568073
How does McCain know the enemy when he doesn't even know the difference b/w Shiite and Sunni ?
I see others have answered your q......NObama does not even realize AQ is in Iraq...I thought he said after he becomes president he's gonna gas up the moving vans and get the troops out of Iraq and surrender to the terrorists and give them a victory........but he will send troops back should AQ surface in Iraq.
I guess when you sit in a pew for 20 years and not know a thing...it's easy to miss that AQ is currently being defeated in Iraq. He'd have to be paying attention...which he obviously has a problem doing. Perhaps he has attention deficit disorder.

 

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2568075
Here's an idea then; How about you Ohioans fix your own roads???
When exactly did we lose the Constitutional principle of States' rights and the inherent responsibility that goes along with that concept?
You obviously were not present when this passed...or perhaps you did not read the bulletin.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
http:///forum/post/2569023
I see others have answered your q......NObama does not even realize AQ is in Iraq...I thought he said after he becomes president he's gonna gas up the moving vans and get the troops out of Iraq and surrender to the terrorists and give them a victory........but he will send troops back should AQ surface in Iraq.
I guess when you sit in a pew for 20 years and not know a thing...it's easy to miss that AQ is currently being defeated in Iraq. He'd have to be paying attention...which he obviously has a problem doing. Perhaps he has attention deficit disorder.

I agree . People joke about bush being distracted easy . Omaba is out in left feild chasing magical butterflys while his mentor preaches hate .

 

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Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2567678
Hey, guys! Don't fret too much. I live in Utah and the nurses here top out at around $40 an hour. Not like in Ca where they are getting close to $50 an hour. The unlimited OT and bonuses are cool, though. I think it's great there are so many people who are going to fight any changes to our health care system. You guys rock! If you can just keep it up for 20 more years or so, I can retire early!
I for one do not beleive the government has a clue in running universal healthcare/socialized medicine. I have no problems with you benefitting from the "cause"...as I beleive America as a whole benefits. We can work to make changes...and a total government takeover is not the answer. it's already been tried in other countries.
Of course, this is contrary to the word from Uncle Rev Wright...who must keep some in america down by spewing let's blame whitey mantra....as opposed to lets work together to make america better. I'm sure the problems in the medical industry is caused by us greedy white folks.
Even Uncle Rev Wright is welcome to join the cause if he so chooses in preventing a government takeover of the medical industry.
His first action should be to sell his million dollar palace...and setup a trust with the money to help pay medical bills for the poor.
I wonder how many poor folks decided to drop a few extra dollars in the collection plate as opposed to buying their medicine? Perhaps some ended up in an emergency room and could not pay their bill .? They'd probably be outraged knowing their hard earned dollars and the sacrifice they made went to help pay for the palace for their greedy "Uncle".

 

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2567986
I think this is being blown out of context... I admit Obama would have been better off using a different word because of the possibility of it being taken the wrong way... I think "average" or "not out of the ordinary" would have been better recieved.
Wrong.....it still delivers the same message. You can wrap the pakage up with different paper..but when you open it up the comment is still racist.
Of course, this is nothing new for Nobama..as he once referred to white people as crackers in his book...and all we have to do is replay the Greatest Hits of his Uncle to see and hear the racism and the hate. This also provides the basis as to why NObama would make such a statement. He's been listening to his Uncle define typical white people for 20 years.
Please tell me how average white person or not out of the ordinary white person differs from typical white person?

 

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Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2569040
I agree . People joke about bush being distracted easy . Omaba is out in left feild chasing magical butterflys while his mentor preaches hate .
Nobama knew EXACTLY the message his Uncle was delivering..which is why he disinvited him. ALso, his Uncle told him he would probably have to distance himself from him some time ago..and NObama agreed.
If all NObama knew was love from his pastor..why was he disinvited from the ceremony when he launched his camapign and why did NObama agree he would have to distance himself from his beloved Uncle long before we watched the Grestest Hits of Rev?
NObama knew/heard the message and embraced it with his membership.

 

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Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2566542
They really know he is brilliant, but admitting it diminishes their candidate!
Let me see...he sat in the pew for 20 years and never had a clue....he is unaware AQ is in Iraq and being defeated.......he simply has trouble pushing the yes/no buttons..he believed Rezko........hmm...he makes the two guys on the beer commercial look brilliant.

 

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The foundation of Nobama's church....The man Uncle Wright claims as the basis for his chruches message ......so, whitey is now the anti-christ? How deep is this hatred that Nobama and his church have for white people? Marxism? Makes those wall hangings in the NObama campaign room make sense now.
From Truth to Power...
Wright has said that a basis for Trinity's philosophies is the work of James Cone, who founded the modern black liberation theology movement out of the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. Particularly influential was Cone's seminal 1969 book, "Black Theology & Black Power."
Cone wrote that the United States was a white racist nation and the white church was the Antichrist for having supported slavery and segregation.
Consider this passage: "Hope is the expectation of that which is not. It is the belief that the impossible is possible, the 'not yet' is coming in history."
Those words sound as if they were pulled from Obama's latest campaign speech. Instead, they're from a memoir Cone wrote in the 1980s. In it, Cone said blacks shouldn't limit their hope to what the Republican and Democratic parties stand for. Then he posited a thought that voters are unlikely to hear from Obama:
"Together, black religion and Marxist philosophy may show us the way to build a completely new society."

 

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Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2567043
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Suzy, I must say I am glad to have some democratic support...
You guys keep poiting to NObama's webpage and speeches..and I'll keep pointing to his record, judgement and associations which is contray to the Gospel accroding to NObama. Somonoe asked me to point where Nobama stands on all the imoprtant issues today.....I threw my left shoulder out of socket tryng to point to his far left position.
You've got a slacker on the campaign..as soon as you turn your head he/she will be on the internet.

 

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2568107
I'm using Ohio as an example... this budget (fund) directly fixes all roads across America...
So there is no local contribution form any state or local municipality regarding repair of any road?
I must say...you really have not done any reasearch on who is repsonsible for road repair..state/federal/local municipality/ city. The "fund" is responsible for ALL road repair? CAn you provide me with a link supoorting your postion?
This fund DIRECTLY fixes ALL roads in America?
Where do you come up with this stuff?

 

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The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, retired pastor to Sen. Barack Obama, said today that politicians “are getting after Big Oil because it’s black,” noting that “you don’t hear nobody talking smack like that on Big Milk.”
The Rev. Wright said he came out of seclusion to make the remarks out of concern that substantive presidential campaign issues like energy policy might push discussion of America’s racial divisions out of the headlines.
“Milk now costs an average of $3.70 per gallon,” said the Rev. Wright, “while gasoline is still less than $3.30 at the pump, and yet oil gets blamed for all our problems, from global warming to the war in Iraq. People say it’s slimy, dirty, toxic…but you don’t hear them dissin’ milk like that.”
The former pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago asked rhetorically, “Why don’t we see posters of Brooke Shields or Mariska Hargitay sporting an oil mustache? I rest my case.”
2008-04-12) — Senator Barack Obama today announced a plan to employ millions of bitter, small town Americans who, in their anger over jobs lost in the 1980s, have turned to guns, God, and xenophobia.
Campaigning in Pennsylvania, Sen. Obama said his new proposal addresses remarks made this week at a San Francisco fundraiser, during which he said, “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
The presumptive Democrat presidential front runner said his plan would employ “these Archie Bunker-type people” in government programs “to register and/or confiscate inappropriate personal firearms, to monitor churches for hate-speech about homosexuality or abortion, and to build tax-funded housing for low income illegal aliens.”
“Twenty-five years is a long time to wallow in bitterness like our friends in Pennsylvania, the Midwest and elsewhere have been doing,” said Sen. Obama, “So, until the steel mills can all be converted to casinos and re-opened, we’ll provide good government jobs at high wages that will soothe the rage, and help to re-educate these small-town folk.”

 

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OMG did suzy finally get caught for not working as I have not seen a reply today.. It might be she has actually started working bah who am I kidding...

 

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“Twenty-five years is a long time to wallow in bitterness like our friends in Pennsylvania, the Midwest and elsewhere have been doing,” said Sen. Obama, “So, until the steel mills can all be converted to casinos and re-opened, we’ll provide good government jobs at high wages that will soothe the rage, and help to re-educate these small-town folk.”

He thinks so highly of us doesn't he.. I moved originally from Florida ( cost to living ratio is way out of whack a house is 500k that in the Midwest is 100k and the job in Florida pays 8 dollars an hour where the same job in Missouri pays 15...
I live in a small town and the income to housing surpasses most area's in the US. With statements like these how does he think he will be elected...

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
http:///forum/post/2569109

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, retired pastor to Sen. Barack Obama, said today that politicians “are getting after Big Oil because it’s black,” noting that “you don’t hear nobody talking smack like that on Big Milk.”
The Rev. Wright said he came out of seclusion to make the remarks out of concern that substantive presidential campaign issues like energy policy might push discussion of America’s racial divisions out of the headlines.
“Milk now costs an average of $3.70 per gallon,” said the Rev. Wright, “while gasoline is still less than $3.30 at the pump, and yet oil gets blamed for all our problems, from global warming to the war in Iraq. People say it’s slimy, dirty, toxic…but you don’t hear them dissin’ milk like that.”
The former pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago asked rhetorically, “Why don’t we see posters of Brooke Shields or Mariska Hargitay sporting an oil mustache? I rest my case.”
2008-04-12) — Senator Barack Obama today announced a plan to employ millions of bitter, small town Americans who, in their anger over jobs lost in the 1980s, have turned to guns, God, and xenophobia.
Campaigning in Pennsylvania, Sen. Obama said his new proposal addresses remarks made this week at a San Francisco fundraiser, during which he said, “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
The presumptive Democrat presidential front runner said his plan would employ “these Archie Bunker-type people” in government programs “to register and/or confiscate inappropriate personal firearms, to monitor churches for hate-speech about homosexuality or abortion, and to build tax-funded housing for low income illegal aliens.”
“Twenty-five years is a long time to wallow in bitterness like our friends in Pennsylvania, the Midwest and elsewhere have been doing,” said Sen. Obama, “So, until the steel mills can all be converted to casinos and re-opened, we’ll provide good government jobs at high wages that will soothe the rage, and help to re-educate these small-town folk.”
lol, that has got to be satire...

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
http:///forum/post/2569001
Any reduction via a tax holiday in fuel prices will move through the economy. The cost of fuel also drives up prices of goods as they must be transported to market. Businesses will also see a reduction in the fuel they purchase thus leading to lowering the cost of doinig business.
The lowering of fuel prices will also free up local and state governemnt dollars based on less money spent on gas .....so perhaps they have a few extra bucks to come out and fill that pot hole in front of your house. Brought full circle. One clueless proposal has gotten your pot hole filled...go figger.
What you don't seem to get is that these road/highway projects fall under Federal and not State. The costs will not be spread through the system..Either way gas will still be $4. You loose sight of the big picture... all this does is create more of a defecit. I initially though, this may be benefitial, but it really is not.. and republicans and democrats both agree..Its actually been proposed before.. I think the last time was in 2005

 

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2569615
What you don't seem to get is that these road/highway projects fall under Federal and not State. The costs will not be spread through the system..Either way gas will still be $4. You loose sight of the big picture... all this does is create more of a defecit. I initially though, this may be benefitial, but it really is not.. and republicans and democrats both agree..Its actually been proposed before.. I think the last time was in 2005

I keep hearing defecit....I wonder how many people that worry about defecit have a few credit cards to their name......

 

[rylan1]

“Twenty-five years is a long time to wallow in bitterness like our friends in Pennsylvania, the Midwest and elsewhere have been doing,” said Sen. Obama, “So, until the steel mills can all be converted to casinos and re-opened, we’ll provide good government jobs at high wages that will soothe the rage, and help to re-educate these small-town folk.”
He thinks so highly of us doesn't he.. I moved originally from Florida ( cost to living ratio is way out of whack a house is 500k that in the Midwest is 100k and the job in Florida pays 8 dollars an hour where the same job in Missouri pays 15...
I live in a small town and the income to housing surpasses most area's in the US. With statements like these how does he think he will be elected...
Many conservatives... I'll include many Republicans don't want more gambling..And of course housing prices are lower in midwest, aside from large cities because supply and demand... You pay more to live in more desirable areas; however you are also paid a little more in those areas .. the cost of living is higher, but so is the median income.