Obama supporters. I have one question

rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2569618
I keep hearing defecit....I wonder how many people that worry about defecit have a few credit cards to their name......
I don't understand the question.. but I stopped using mine a couple years ago... Debt is not a good way to live... it limits what you can do for yourself and others.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
http:///forum/post/2569074
Nobama knew EXACTLY the message his Uncle was delivering..which is why he disinvited him. ALso, his Uncle told him he would probably have to distance himself from him some time ago..and NObama agreed.
If all NObama knew was love from his pastor..why was he disinvited from the ceremony when he launched his camapign and why did NObama agree he would have to distance himself from his beloved Uncle long before we watched the Grestest Hits of Rev?
NObama knew/heard the message and embraced it with his membership.
what is your obsession with Wright? He is not running... Who are you voting for?
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2568137
Please provide a link that shows the Saudi Government is providing any support for terrorists in Iraq.
I doubt we could find any credible links... but we know that Saudi Arabia has a connection with terrorism... But what can we do about it... not much
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
http:///forum/post/2569020
Yep........actually...I think he/she claimes the bridge and roads issue is far more important then any war on terror. Also, looks like we should redirect resources from airline security to potholes.
Perhaps NObama will redeploy our military from fighting terrorists abroad to filling potholes on Main Streets.
The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 established the Highway Trust Fund and stipulated that 100% of the gas tax be deposited into the fund. From 1956 to 1982, the Highway Trust Fund was used solely to finance expenditures from the federal highway program.
Highway Trust Fund revenues were first allocated to mass transit in the Surface Transportation Act of 1982, when Congress raised the gas tax from four cents per gallon to nine cents per gallon and dedicated one cent, or 20 percent, of the increase to the newly-established Mass Transit Account. Each time there has been an increase in the amount of gas tax going into the Highway Trust Fund—1990, 1993 and 1997—20 percent of the increase has been allocated to the Transit Account and 80 percent to the Highway Account. Of the current gasoline tax of 18.3 cents per gallon, 2.86 cents per gallon is allocated to the Mass Transit Account
There is considerable interest in the amount of contributions to the trust fund made by highway users in each state. In addition, the amount per state is used in apportionment of some funding categories (namely, the equity adjustment categories of minimum allocation, donor state bonus, and 90 percent of payment). Therefore, estimates are made on the basis of use-related factors in each state...
As I said... this fund directly pays for our highways and bridges..
 
fats71

fats71

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Many conservatives... I'll include many Republicans don't want more gambling..And of course housing prices are lower in midwest, aside from large cities because supply and demand... You pay more to live in more desirable areas; however you are also paid a little more in those areas .. the cost of living is higher, but so is the median income

Um apparently you can not read what i said. If you work as say a youth care worker in Florida you get paid 7 dollars an hour. If you do that in Missouri you will get 10 to 12 an hour. The housing here in Missouri is cheaper than it is in Florida so is the whole cost of living across the board.
Now in Florida the house in which I live in that is 200k with a pool would be 700k to a million. Now tell me how and where the cost of living median is close to the same.
Food costs more in Florida housing costs more gas costs more everything costs more and the wages are less than they are in the midwest.
You say this again and I will start giving you cost of living compressions to look at and educate yourself on.
cost of living is higher, but so is the median income
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2569641
what is your obsession with Wright? He is not running... Who are you voting for?
I remind you Uncle Wright was a top committee member on the NObama campaign.
It's only been over the past several weeks the media holiday for Nobama has ended regarding his judgement and associations.
I for one will not let him go back on holiday so he can run his dog and pony show on america.
Also, I don't drink the Nobama flavor of Kool AId..I did't know for 20 years...which makes him a liar and racist hater supporter at a minimum. I won't give him a pass for being a racist and a member of a hate whitey,jews and the US "church". Plus, a member of a 'church" that provides Hamas a platform here in the US.
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2569615
What you don't seem to get is that these road/highway projects fall under Federal and not State. The costs will not be spread through the system..Either way gas will still be $4. You loose sight of the big picture... all this does is create more of a defecit. I initially though, this may be benefitial, but it really is not.. and republicans and democrats both agree..Its actually been proposed before.. I think the last time was in 2005
I have the big picture in focus. You obviously have a lack of understanding regarding tax cuts and the money that will be pumped back into the economy...even short term.
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Nobama's church bulletin and printing of the Hamas manifesto now pays dividends...Hamas fully endorses NObama..
Thursday, April 17, 2008
One-degree of separation: Klein: Obama camp 'flattered' by Hamas endorsement
World Net Daily's Aaron Klein reports that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)'s campaign said April 16, 2008, that "it is 'flattered' by an endorsement" from the terrorist organization Hamas, which compared Obama to Democratic President John F. Kennedy.
"I like John Kennedy too," said chief Obama strategist David Axelrod. "That's about the only thing we have in common with this gentleman from Hamas. We all agree that John Kennedy was a great president, and it's flattering when anybody says that Barack Obama would follow in his footsteps."
Axelrod was reacting to comments earlier this week from Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas' top political adviser in the Gaza Strip, who said the isolated Hamas terror group "hopes" Obama will win the presidential elections and "change" America's foreign policy.
According to WND, following the April 16, 2008, presidential debate in Philadelphia between Democratic candidates Sen. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) and Sen. Obama, "Philip Klein, a blogger for the The American Spectator, asked Axelrod in person about Hamas' endorsement."
Axelrod at first said he was not familiar with Yousuf's comments. The American Spectator blogger then read from his Blackberry the top Hamas advisor's statements about Obama.
Axelrod focused on the Kennedy portion of Yousuf's quote, and said he was "flattered" by the comparison.
 
zeke92

zeke92

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2471157
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php
Under the heading "issues" is everything he addresses. After reading all of them, not once is Bin Laden Mentioned...
hehe, you know, it's funny...if i posted to my website that sells freshwater critters (for now) saltwaterfish.com's mods or admins would slap me on the wrist, warn me, delete the link, and slap me again.
suzy couldn't even post a link to ******* because it was related to saltwater stuff and saltwaterfish.com mods thought it was a 'threat' and 'competition' or something.
the only way someone can link is for it to be 100% non related? thats sorta sad. we should be able to spread information on a FORUM. (sorry to change subject but you know how long threads get, they can't stay on subject for long)
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Rezko Trial catches NObama in another lie.......
By Bob Secter |Chicago Tribune staff reporter
April 15, 2008
Just weeks after winning the Democratic U.S. Senate primary in 2004, Barack Obama was the guest of developer Antoin "Tony" Rezko at a party for a controversial British billionaire whom Rezko was trying to lure into an investment, a witness testified Monday at Rezko's corruption trial.
Stuart Levine, the government's star witness, said Obama and his wife, Michelle, were among the guests at Rezko's home on April 3, 2004, for the party honoring Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born tycoon currently appealing a fraud conviction in France.
As he campaigns for president, Obama has acknowledged social and political ties to Rezko, as well as a real estate deal between the two that involved Obama's South Side home. But Obama has not disclosed his presence at the Auchi party, which Rezko threw as part of a campaign to persuade Auchi to pour money into a financially troubled 62-acre development in the South Loop.
Though not flatly disputing Levine's assertion, Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt repeated what the senator has said: "Sen. Obama does not recall meeting Nadhmi Auchi at any time or on any occasion, and this includes any event that may have been held for Mr. Auchi," LaBolt said.
Obama's past ties to Rezko have caused political headaches on the campaign trail, and a spokesman for Democratic rival Hillary Clinton was quick Monday to highlight Levine's latest allegations for political reporters in case they missed it.
In an interview with Tribune editors and reporters last month, Obama described the evolution of a relationship with Rezko that dates back to the early 1990s. He described Rezko as a political backer and not too close friend who in 2003 used his Wilmette home for a fundraising event for Obama's then fledgling U.S. Senate campaign.
Otherwise, Obama said he and Rezko met for breakfast or lunch infrequently, dined once in Chicago with their spouses, and got together another time with their wives in Lake Geneva, Wis., where Rezko owned a home. Aside from the fundraiser, no mention was made of any other get-together at Rezko's home.
Levine testified that he was at the Auchi party and saw the Obamas there as well as other political luminaries, including Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn and various cabinet officials in the Blagojevich administration. The governor was not in attendance, Levine said.
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2569664
The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 established the Highway Trust Fund and stipulated that 100% of the gas tax be deposited into the fund. From 1956 to 1982, the Highway Trust Fund was used solely to finance expenditures from the federal highway program.
Highway Trust Fund revenues were first allocated to mass transit in the Surface Transportation Act of 1982, when Congress raised the gas tax from four cents per gallon to nine cents per gallon and dedicated one cent, or 20 percent, of the increase to the newly-established Mass Transit Account. Each time there has been an increase in the amount of gas tax going into the Highway Trust Fund—1990, 1993 and 1997—20 percent of the increase has been allocated to the Transit Account and 80 percent to the Highway Account. Of the current gasoline tax of 18.3 cents per gallon, 2.86 cents per gallon is allocated to the Mass Transit Account
There is considerable interest in the amount of contributions to the trust fund made by highway users in each state. In addition, the amount per state is used in apportionment of some funding categories (namely, the equity adjustment categories of minimum allocation, donor state bonus, and 90 percent of payment). Therefore, estimates are made on the basis of use-related factors in each state...
As I said... this fund directly pays for our highways and bridges..
No..you said it pays for ALL roads...even those falling under local and state control would be included in "all". . Go back and read what you posted.
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2569683
Vote for a canadite with terrorist links ?

Now NObama supporters can boast and brag they have Hamas officially on board regarding the campaign. Axlerod is flattered by the endorsement and the praise from Hamas. maybe Nobama can incorporate the Hamas Manifesto in his offical platform .
maybe Uncle Rev Wright will invite Hamas over to his new 10,000 sq ft home so he can hold one of those hate rallies. he can fund the event with his 10 million line of credit the church has set up and attached to his palace. Uncle Rev and his number one nephew Nobama can call it Hatefest 2008.
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2566401
Now back to the church... Farrakhan has done many positive things in the black community... he was recongized for his prison work and helping ex cons turn there lives around...
this is "typical" america.... we always want to highlight the negatives in a person... we never talk about the good they do or their positive achievements. He did this work in that community.. regardless of his religious belief... or past statements... I have no problem with him being recongized for helping other people.
I have provided a link here on this thread directly to the Trumpet Magazine article. I do not recall reading any mention of work with prisoners. If memory serves, that was the Nobama lie floated when the news media first reported in Jan that his church honored the Hall Of Fame Hater champion.
Please provide a quote from the portion of the article you are referring to in the magazine for the "church". I actually read the article...did you?
Quotes have already been posted regarding the hate recently chanted by Farrakhan...rendering your support of his recent life baseless.
Please provide the statement form the article regarding his great work with prisoners. As proof I have read it...here is documentation from From NEwsmax agreeing with me that Nobama simply lied about the purpose for the hater award:
In his comment, Obama not only side-stepped the main point of the controversy, he disingenuously claimed he thought the magazine bestowed the award on Farrakhan for his efforts to rehabilitate ex-prisoners and that the decision was the magazine’s and had nothing to do with Wright and his church. Not only is Trumpet owned and produced by Wright’s church out of the church’s offices, Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor of the magazine.
Neither Wright’s encomiums about Farrakhan nor the Trumpet article mentions ex-prisoners. Instead, they refer to Farrakhan as an “icon” who “truly epitomize[strike] greatness.”
Please bring the the DIRECT quote from the article...not the Gospel accroding to Nobama.
Goodness...you really just rush up to the stand and drink that NObama Kool Aid .
I have told you time and again his words are contrary to truth, his record, associations, judgement and FACT.
You have proved me right once again.
Also, please note the lie about the magazine not being linked at all to his Uncle and the church[/strike]
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2569644
I doubt we could find any credible links... but we know that Saudi Arabia has a connection with terrorism... But what can we do about it... not much
How much time did you devote to the project?
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2569641
what is your obsession with Wright? He is not running... Who are you voting for?
As I have posted before...NObama is caught in a lie once again...claiming not to be present when the hate america rally went on in his church. This report places him in the pew. Nobama has lied to America...time and again. Once again proof his words are contrary to his actions. Also, the witness/reporter saw NObama nodding his head in agreement with the hate america rants by his Uncle.
The lengthy Newsmax report by Ronald Kessler said its correspondent, Jim Davis, attended services on July 22, 2007, at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's South Side and saw Obama in attendance. Kessler's story states:
"In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the 'United States of White America' and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement."
(UPDATE: On Monday the Newsmax site issued a statement with the Kessler story that it stands by the account, despite campaign denials that Obama was in church that day. It points out that he could have attended some services and still traveled to Miami that day and that its correspondent attended several July services and saw the senator and his Secret Service detail witness the service as described in the article. It says Obama spokesmen declined several opportunities to comment before publication of its initial report on the sermon.)
Obama Attended Hate America Sermon
Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:14 PM
By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size
Obama claims he was completely unaware that the Reverend Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ targeted “white” America.
Clarification: The Obama campaign has told members of the press that Senator Obama was not in church on the day cited, July 22, because he had a speech he gave in Miami at 1:30 PM. Our writer, Jim Davis, says he attended several services at Senator Obama's church during the month of July, including July 22. The church holds services three times every Sunday at 7:30 and 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Central time. While both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami, Mr. Davis stands by his story that during one of the services he attended during the month of July, Senator Obama was present and sat through the sermon given by Rev. Wright as described in the story. Mr. Davis said Secret Service were also present in the church during Senator Obama's attendance. Mr. Davis' story was first published on Newsmax on August 9, 2007. Shortly before publication, Mr. Davis contacted the press office of Sen. Obama several times for comment about the Senator's attendance and Rev. Wright's comments during his sermon. The Senator's office declined to comment.
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Contrary to Senator Barack Obama’s claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.
Senator Obama has sought to separate himself from his pastor’s incendiary remarks, issuing a statement Friday rejecting them as “inflammatory and appalling” but failing to renounce Wright himself for his venomous and paranoid denunciations of America.
In his press release, Obama claimed, “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity [United Church of Christ] or heard him utter in private conversation.”
 
reefraff

reefraff

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The whole "I don't take money from lobbyists" was a joke from the start. OBS says he doesn't take money from the firm that lobbys for a corporation or the corporate PAC but how much has he taken from the officers of the corporation or spouses and family members of the groups? Isn't a dime's worth of difference.
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2570518
The whole "I don't take money from lobbyists" was a joke from the start. OBS says he doesn't take money from the firm that lobbys for a corporation or the corporate PAC but how much has he taken from the officers of the corporation or spouses and family members of the groups? Isn't a dime's worth of difference.
His entire campaign is all built on lies. His record is contrary to his words.
Some of his lies/excuses are at the 3rd, 4th or 5th grade level...I didn't know...was not present...never heard....etc, etc.
 
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