Project Fishroom underway for new 240 setup

acrylic51

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Hey KMC.....to be totally honest, I DO NOT run GFCI breakers....I don't care for them and with the high loads and such will and does cause them to go nuts.......I get my electrical parts for nothing, because of my brother-in-law, but have used them in the past on previous system and they drove me nuts......they just didn't hold up IMO......Some people say they are a must, and I disagree.......especially with the GFCI outlets......a curling iron, and hair drier will take their toll on them over time......
I ran all those dedicated circuits, because you always read about people overloading their circuits and stuff tripping......1 circuit is just dedicated to overhead lighting.....1 circuit is dedicated for just 2 MH's and a VHO ballast and moonlight, 1 circuit dedicated or the other 2 MH's and VHO ballast and moonlights....The main pump and skimmer pump is on another circuit by itself and the CL pump is on an existing circuit for the garage that nothing draws on.....so with 20 amp circuits and only loading them with about 10amp each I'm well under and don't feel I'll have any issues with tripping........
As far as alarms......everything has backups.......I don't fear floods like most people, and yes I have had them, but 2 were due to my mistakes and 1 due to equipment failure.....The equipment failure was the Oceanic tank blew apart at the side after 2 months of being setup, and "my" mistakes "floods" were leaving the RO/DI unit turned on without a float valve.......and the other was forgetting to glue a fitting in place and running the system about 1 week before it let loose, so you learn.........
If power would go out all together you don't worry about back syphonage from your CL, so that is non important......The area you worry most about is any area where you have your return pipes submerged underwater; meaning your return pipes from the overflow.......I use different means to guard against this......I test my system rather frequently on this issue, to see what happens, and I've been lucky or good so far......I use a check valve as my first line of defense......check valve can fail, but I choose to use a clear see through check valve so that during maintenance when the main pump is down I can visual see the flapper inside. The nice thing is that I can full take the unit apart and remove any debris, and can rebuild the unit if I have too.....
The other thing I do is drill anti syphon holes in any lines that are going to be submerged underwater. I drill this hole slightly below the water line, that in the event the power would go out that it would drain to that point and at reaching that level the hole would cause the syphon to break.......
The other method that alot of people don't look at or consider is your sump....Can your sump handle the back syphon from your sytem if power goes out.....alot of people run their water level to high and when the power goes out they can't hold the run off water.....You double check your water level by shutting the system down and and seeing how much back syphon you get and the level reached in the sump......if i gets dangerously high fire the pump and get the level back down, but then it tells you that you need to adjust the system either by lowering your water level in the sump if possible, moving your anti syphon holes up further in the tank and also you'd need to look at your check valve as well.....Alot of times people just overfill their sump level to high and can't hold the water.......I don't have an issue with sump size.....Sump size is 150 gallons and fuge is 150 as well......When system is running and shut down I can afford to take on a good bit of water.....
 

acrylic51

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Sorry to ramble on........But I also employ other alerting methods as well.....Everything is run through the AquaController Pro, which will page or email me of any poweroutage or parameter out of my normally set range.....Also I have the alarm wired to the controller as well to notify someone in the house. I also have 1 of those cheapo water alarms from Harbor Freight as a double safety.......The AquaController can be programmed to alert you from anything such as heat issues, PH, ORP, poweroutage, etc.....and it also controls all your lighting and pumps as well.......The only bad thing is it won't handle my chiller which is 220 1HP chiller, which as a heavy duty controller that is backed up as well, and also plumbed into the chiller system is a flow switch that in the event of the pump going out to feed the chiller it would shut the chiller down and prevent damage to the chiller as well.......I haven't gotten the pics posted yet of the AquaController, but will here shortly........I still have to get the other DC4HD's mounted.......
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Looking good man... some day I hope to settle down enough to build a tank like this... awesome thread.
The tank made me settle down.....
it's why I work it seems at times.......but I love every minute of it....Actually I enjoy building and putting them together more than anything.....
 
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supermanvx

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well im going to have to say that is one nice setup. everything looks great, the molding, the plumbing, the light/tank itself. I am going to have to admit that i am jealous. My one question is, its hard in the picture, but is that your refugium behind the overflow box??
 

saltn00b

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it is, but i thought that was about the right size for a 240g tank alone, he has 2 150's attached to it? idk maybe im off with my general calcs on chillers, cause i dont have one.
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by saltn00b
it is, but i thought that was about the right size for a 240g tank alone, he has 2 150's attached to it? idk maybe im off with my general calcs on chillers, cause i dont have one.
Plenty of chiller to go around........it has the expansion valve as well, which will allow it to cool further than the standard chiller....You should check out the inside of the temp controller with all the switches you can switch around....It's insane.....
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by supermanvx
well im going to have to say that is one nice setup. everything looks great, the molding, the plumbing, the light/tank itself. I am going to have to admit that i am jealous. My one question is, its hard in the picture, but is that your refugium behind the overflow box??
No that's just a tank in place right now that's curing some of the new LR......That tank will be moved out and the fuge put into it's place....
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by acrylic51
The tank made me settle down.....
it's why I work it seems at times.......but I love every minute of it....Actually I enjoy building and putting them together more than anything.....
I've never been a DYI person.. never had a need for it. Working on this "Reef Ready" tank the past couple of weeks has taught me a lot. For one thing, I can see the addiction to building them. I already am like "Why didn't I do that" and "Hmm, you know if I did this next time..."
I'm currently devising a way to run a Mangrove swamp from my tank. IThink that would look good and be an interesting display to add some plants to my office.
 
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supermanvx

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Originally Posted by acrylic51
No that's just a tank in place right now that's curing some of the new LR......That tank will be moved out and the fuge put into it's place....
oh wow, thats still a cool design...knowning me, i would try to get a clear overflow box
..but its looking good. cheers
 

bronco300

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what happened to the tank, all i see is blue!
looks like a lot of work, but definitely looks great!! good job! now come to my house and do mine. ***)
 

reefeel

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I think aquariums are an obsession anyone that gets one eventually want a bigger one or want something changed. There is something that we always seem to overlook. I wish I would have had a bigger overflow installed in my tank .
 

acrylic51

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I know what you guys are talking about......the "addiction" is unreal.....I will go days on 2-3 hours of sleep just to keep working at times.......The only reason I got big into DIY is because, it could save you cash alot of times, plus it teaches how the object really works......Superman I could have left the overflow clear, but who actually would want to look into there overflow and see the uglies behind the scene....Nobody really cares about that stuff but us...everyone else just wants to see the tank.......
Hey Reefeel......Did your rock ever surface?????
 
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supermanvx

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Originally Posted by acrylic51
I know what you guys are talking about......the "addiction" is unreal.....I will go days on 2-3 hours of sleep just to keep working at times.......The only reason I got big into DIY is because, it could save you cash alot of times, plus it teaches how the object really works......Superman I could have left the overflow clear, but who actually would want to look into there overflow and see the uglies behind the scene....Nobody really cares about that stuff but us...everyone else just wants to see the tank.......
Hey Reefeel......Did your rock ever surface?????
oh i wasnt sayin your design isnt good..i love it..i would do the same, cuz even me i dont want to look at the pvc behind...but i love it. great job...ill copy you on that idea maybe haha
 

acrylic51

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I wasn't on you Superman.....I wish I could leave it clear, but the PVC......I'll have to post a pic of the overflow from behind in the fishroom.
 
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supermanvx

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Originally Posted by acrylic51
I wasn't on you Superman.....I wish I could leave it clear, but the PVC......I'll have to post a pic of the overflow from behind in the fishroom.
either way man. i like what you had done. looks great
 

reefeel

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Originally Posted by acrylic51
I know what you guys are talking about......the "addiction" is unreal.....I will go days on 2-3 hours of sleep just to keep working at times.......The only reason I got big into DIY is because, it could save you cash alot of times, plus it teaches how the object really works......Superman I could have left the overflow clear, but who actually would want to look into there overflow and see the uglies behind the scene....Nobody really cares about that stuff but us...everyone else just wants to see the tank.......
Hey Reefeel......Did your rock ever surface?????
Yeap came in at 10:00 this morning and in pristine condition.
 
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