Right or Not ???

dcoyle11

dcoyle11

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What you believe not to be true does not mean it’s not true and reverse you do not have to believe what I say. Free will choice!!!! What is interesting is you seem to be upset from what I state yet I take it in and expect you to have this reaction.. That’s called conviction. and your anger ...sin
 
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tizzo

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Originally Posted by Jmick
For some reason, it irks the hell out of me when people have to bring religion and the bible into these conversations.
YEAH...

And it Irks the hell outa me when people want to bring science into it, since scientists can't agree on anything in this matter.
So we should continue this "discussion" with no religion or science. :thinking:
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by ruaround
i believe in Dionysus... would you like to come have a sit down with me??? lol
The god of wine, you bet!
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by Tizzo
YEAH...

And it Irks the hell outa me when people want to bring science into it, since scientists can't agree on anything in this matter.
So we should continue this "discussion" with no religion or science. :thinking:
I'm pretty sure that scientists know where babies come from and how they are made...
Although, I tend at agree that the first woman was made from a rib....
 
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tizzo

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When does life begin, conception? Birth? Heartbeat? Brainwaves?
What deturmines life? Metabolism, digestion etc...? Or Heartbeat, cause that shroom mentioned earlier lacks that. Brainwaves?
5 scientists, same topic can't/won't agree, so science shouldn't be allowed to be an issue in these debates since it is so inconsistant.
How babies are made, where they come from?? EVERYBODY pretty much agrees on those things.
 
hot883

hot883

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Originally Posted by Jovial
---- is not the babies fault so why kill an innocent baby? Two wrongs wont make a right.
Lets stop and think about that one.
Lets see, the sperm seaks out the egg and BOOM! Instant baby. I don't think so. Terminate it before it even begins.
There is not a more horrible thing can happen to a woman, why make her FOREVER remember that haneous event everytime she looks at the child. Pro-choice.
 
phixer

phixer

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Originally Posted by Pontius
the bible doesn't say one way or another that abortion is even a sin, so I don't believe having an abortion is going to send anyone to hell.
What happens when a fetus is aborted? a life is stopped. Who knows about the hell part. One thing is certain, when an abortion is performed a human being will cease to exist.
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by Tizzo
When does life begin, conception? Birth? Heartbeat? Brainwaves?
What deturmines life? Metabolism, digestion etc...? Or Heartbeat, cause that shroom mentioned earlier lacks that. Brainwaves?
5 scientists, same topic can't/won't agree, so science shouldn't be allowed to be an issue in these debates since it is so inconsistant.
How babies are made, where they come from?? EVERYBODY pretty much agrees on those things.

I agree with that. However, they are using facts and evidence not faith and that is the difference.
 
dcoyle11

dcoyle11

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Originally Posted by Jmick
I agree with that. However, they are using facts and evidence not faith and that is the difference.
so with the evidence ---sperm to egg ---life or not life? and why?
 
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tizzo

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Something is not considered a fact until it can be reliably duplicated in a controled environment.
What they are using, in this case are guesses, theories. If anything about this issue were fact, then there would be no debate among them. If say a heartbeat were the beginning of life was a fact then they would not discuss the issue further. But they cannot agree because they are not yet facts...
But what Phixer said is a very valid "fact".
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by dcoyle11
so with the evidence ---sperm to egg ---life or not life? and why?
My opinion is that it is life as soon as conception occurs.
 
phixer

phixer

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Originally Posted by hot883
Lets stop and think about that one.
Lets see, the sperm seaks out the egg and BOOM! Instant baby. I don't think so. Terminate it before it even begins.
There is not a more horrible thing can happen to a woman, why make her FOREVER remember that haneous event everytime she looks at the child. Pro-choice.
This is an easy one, sperm seeks out egg and then what? instant tree? or instant table, of course not. When an abortion is performed what are you stopping? Your stoping a human life from occuring by slicing it up, injecting it with saline, and sucking out a dismembered little child. Try to picture this proceedure and then then take a look at your son or daughter and think about it. There is not a more horrible thing that can happen to a child, why kill an innocent baby and FOREVER remember that haneous event when the baby has done nothing to deserve it. The baby didnt cause the ---- .
Adoption is a non violent choice, where nobody has to be killed.
 
ruaround

ruaround

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Originally Posted by dcoyle11
i agree when is a life a life. i think its at conception! sombody prove me wrong
operative words... "i think"...
 
ruaround

ruaround

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Originally Posted by dcoyle11
prove me wrong ...they were the next words
i cannot prove an opinion wrong...
 
dcoyle11

dcoyle11

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hey lion if you are still there i asked you a question on the thread named Perfect Parameters? please answer if you get a chance.. thanks
and thank you all for a great day of fun and discussion.. it was very slow today thanks to the weather. you all made it a lot more enjoyable.. Happy VD
 
dcoyle11

dcoyle11

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Originally Posted by dcoyle11
i agree when is a life a life. i think its at conception! sombody prove me wrong
life is at conception ....prove me wrong!!! no i think ....if i made that statement prove it wrong
 
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