stocklist for a 100g

[btldreef]

Originally Posted by skate020
http:///forum/post/3199734
and BLTD i think im rather going for a Clown tang, or a sohal. i like the shape of them
Oh, I was only suggesting the Achilles because it would give you the darker color like a French Angel. The clown tang is really cool. My LFS has them all the time and I'm always so tempted but I know I'm maxed out for fish. (Just need to get a bigger tank now!

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and for angels i think its out of a emp, or annularis. i suppose its just watever i come across at the right time. I would still have a plan for what you want, and know what you want and why. This way you don't end up buying a fish that is really not suited for the environment you're going to put it in.
other news, my lions doing great YAY!

my cycle has started too, so in about a week i'll check for readings. sounds good. then wait a week and check again.
oh and one last thing
happy new year everyone
Happy New Year!

 

[skate020]

i've got a couple pics of my lion
and the bottom one is of the small tropical tank i set up in my basement to hold guppys and stuff for live food
tell me if you think the lion looks healthy
sorry the pics arent great, there from my phone.

 

[skate020]

yeh, i do like the achilles but if im to spend over £100 on a tang it'll rather be a sohal or a fowlers surgeonfish lols, otherwise i dont really wanna spend over £100 on a achilles tang. nice fish tho.
yeh my LFS has a nice sized clown tang, about 4-5" for only £30. might buy it and pick it up in about 6months, if they can hold it for that long.
and with the angels i mean, when i come to buy the angel watever one i come across first out of them two, not just watever angel i come across in general lols.

 

[btldreef]

You're lion swims upside down

j/kHe looks good to me, but honestly, I don't know that much about them to give you a really educated answer on that one.
Originally Posted by skate020
http:///forum/post/3199755
yeh, i do like the achilles but if im to spend over £100 on a tang it'll rather be a sohal or a fowlers surgeonfish lols, otherwise i dont really wanna spend over £100 on a achilles tang. nice fish tho. yeah, my LFS has about 25 Achilles right now, so the price isn't too bad on them. The Fowleri is a beautiful fish!
yeh my LFS has a nice sized clown tang, about 4-5" for only £30. might buy it and pick it up in about 6months, if they can hold it for that long. Be careful! Clown tangs are VERY aggressive, especially towards other tangs and angels. They really need 150+G. I wouldn't do it, unless you really do a lot of research on them first. They're cheap because everyone that buys one has issues and ends up hating them, lol. From what I hear, they're also not the easiest to care for, like most tangs.
and with the angels i mean, when i come to buy the angel watever one i come across first out of them two, not just watever angel i come across in general lols. Oh, ok. IMO, get the Emperor. Such a nice fish, as a juvi AND an adult.

 

[cranberry]

It's hard to say how they look from the pic, but there spines all look good, I can't see any bodily marks... but I can only see one side and it's not a great pic (sorry). I'm not sure if it's th epic or not, but does his body cave inward.... lemme draw an arrow... BRB.

 

[cranberry]

Is his belly as sunken in as it looks in thsi pic or is it just the angle? If it is actually him, he's starving.

 

[skate020]

lol no quite the opposite, the lump, is his belly, he has eaten a few hours before the pic so there is still plenty of food in his belly, the inward cave is just were it starts to lead into the rest of his body and tail.
and yeh sorry i still havent got a cable for my camera so im using my iphone for pics, there good phones but have terrible camera's. and BTLD he's actually sideways but i put the pics the wrong way round lols :L
he loves that filter, just sits on it all day lols

 

[skate020]

cranberry, i think this is wats going on with it.

 

[cranberry]

His stomach may be full, but that depression is from a history of not eating. His belly can still bulge, but that area in the back should be flat, not depressed.

 

[skate020]

ahh ok, yeh i did think he looked very skinny and had no bulk on him, i will up his food intake to say once a day for about a month? could this help?
can these suffer from the same sort of thing as anglers with being fed often?
he's starting to feel at home i think now, earlier he was swimming infront of the glass i think to get my attention, he may be hungry again.
all he has eaten today is one guppy, the guppy was tiny too, so i may try him another cockle and see how that goes down.
do you think i should do this or should i just leave him untill tomorrow?

 

[cranberry]

Feed him today until he stops.... or until the bulge looks painful O.O whichever comes first.
I feed Monday, Wed and Friday. I wouldn't be concerned with blockage problems like can be seen with an angler. Yes, it can happen, but do the M, W, F deal and feed multiple small items not a smaller number of big items.
In the wild their bellies are full of smaller food stuff instead of just a few larger fish.
Yes, he's begging.... he'll do that constantly whether he's actually hungry or not.

 

[skate020]

ok cool, he's been hidden for a couple days now, hides in the corner behind a load of rock, i suppose he's still not used to the tank, tomorrow i will feed him about 3 guppys or so, then wednesday i think im going to try the lance fish tail thing to get him onto frozen

 

[skate020]

ok my tanks a 130g,
72" long, 18" wide and 24" tall.
how much LR will i need?
and substrate?
i want the LR set out so its coming in from the sides, and then have like a 1- 1.5ft gap in the middle.
i cant get much LR cos of funding, but i can try my hardest.
i'll draw a diagram to make it easier
do you like my lion?

 

[btldreef]

Originally Posted by skate020
http:///forum/post/3201724
ok my tanks a 130g,
72" long, 18" wide and 24" tall.
how much LR will i need?
and substrate?
i want the LR set out so its coming in from the sides, and then have like a 1- 1.5ft gap in the middle.
i cant get much LR cos of funding, but i can try my hardest.
i'll draw a diagram to make it easier
do you like my lion?

So, I guess you're not in art school?

Better than I could've done though!
Anyways, as much LR as possible. It's not going to be a reef, so you can get away with less, but the more the better.

 

[cranberry]

You have to be careful of too much rock in a lionfish tank. I've gone with less rock to give them a more open swimming area... there's a wide spread of fins to contend with.

 

[skate020]

yeh thats good thens lol
ermm no not quite in art school, i wish i was back at school if im honest lol.
ok i will keep it done, i want to get enough so it doesnt look bare of course, but not so much that it limits swimming space.
how long would you say i could go without a skimmer sensibly? i mean i know you dont HAVE to have a skimmer, but with the fish i am gettin there will be a big bioload so it'll be alot easier with one, wat do you people suggest?
i was thinking like a TMC v2 800? something like that?

 

[btldreef]

Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3201973
You have to be careful of too much rock in a lionfish tank. I've gone with less rock to give them a more open swimming area... there's a wide spread of fins to contend with.
See, I was thinking that, but he is also putting angels in this tank, don't they need the rock work?

(I know nothing about lions, so I'm taking your word on this)
Originally Posted by skate020
http:///forum/post/3202004
yeh thats good thens lol
ermm no not quite in art school, i wish i was back at school if im honest lol.
ok i will keep it done, i want to get enough so it doesnt look bare of course, but not so much that it limits swimming space.
how long would you say i could go without a skimmer sensibly? i mean i know you dont HAVE to have a skimmer, but with the fish i am gettin there will be a big bioload so it'll be alot easier with one, wat do you people suggest?
i was thinking like a TMC v2 800? something like that?
I really don't know that skimmer to be honest with you. I swear by ASM. I've got a G3 w/ upgraded pump and love it.

 

[cranberry]

Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3202011
I know nothing about lions
And I know nothing about angels

so we are probably in the same boat. Skate knows I'm turning a blind eye to the lion's tankmates.... I don't even know what is going in there besides the lion. But there's nothing as painful looking as a lion who has no room to move around because of tank depth and/or aquascaping.

 

[skate020]

haha dont worry, i can provide hiding places for an angel with minimil LR.
i can sort it so the rocks go no more than 12" above the substrate, so that'll leave about 10" above th rockwork for the lion if neccessary, and 12" of rock can happy do an emp, aslong as theres a few cosy caves
as for compatibility in there, there isnt anything that is going to nip at the lion.
so thats th main sorta compatibility problem with lionfish tanks. so s'all good
as for the skimmer, the v2 series is HUGE down here, all the LFS will only have v2 skimmer in unless you order another. its because their made by TMC which is the main exporter of marine fish in this country. i does it to ALL of the south. so that may be why. the ASM are nice but there abit pricey for me

 

[btldreef]

Originally Posted by skate020
http:///forum/post/3202114
haha dont worry, i can provide hiding places for an angel with minimil LR.
i can sort it so the rocks go no more than 12" above the substrate, so that'll leave about 10" above th rockwork for the lion if neccessary, and 12" of rock can happy do an emp, aslong as theres a few cosy caves
as for compatibility in there, there isnt anything that is going to nip at the lion.
so thats th main sorta compatibility problem with lionfish tanks. so s'all good
as for the skimmer, the v2 series is HUGE down here, all the LFS will only have v2 skimmer in unless you order another. its because their made by TMC which is the main exporter of marine fish in this country. i does it to ALL of the south. so that may be why. the ASM are nice but there abit pricey for me
I'm more concerned with the angels having enough LR to pick on than caves to hide in.
As long as reviews are decent for the skimmer, I would get it. ASMs are pricey, I lucked out and got mine used.