Texas police department should be ashamed!

geridoc

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"Three cops driving down the road aren't going to mistake my wife for a hooker. How else are you going to mistake a girl as a hooker. She isn't holding "will <fill in the blank> you for food" sign. Of course these anti-police websites aren't going to say she was dressed like a hooker."
And, if they did think your wife was dressed like a hooker, they still would have had no business going near her. I'm sure the law in Galveston is similar to here in NY - it is not illegal to dress in any way you wish, even like a hooker. It is only illegal to engage in prostitution, and in none of the news reports was an illegal act mentioned.
 
darthtang aw

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2 things stick out more to me the more I investigate this. If you get a call as an officer about 3 white hookers it is possible there are others in the area as there usually are. This 12 year old does not look like an average 12 year old girl. At the time she was 5'6" 120 lbs.
2nd thing that sticks out to me is if you read case filing the parents did not take the child to the hospital until 2 hours later.....if my 12 year old was severely beaten I would not be waiting 2 hours to take her in...
Did the cops get the area wrong? Yes they did. Were they wrong to arrest someone for resisting arrest two weeks later, sure should have been done immediately.
But did they beat this girl down, not totally sold on it.
 
stdreb27

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Lets look at this from another point of view shall we.
All the details we have are the details alleged from the law suit of the plaintiffs. Lioncraze has taken a blog that has accepted what is being alleged as fact. When it is not. The actual news articles that I posted or darth are simple reporting what the lawsuit alleges not what the investigation of the reporter or of the police department says.
The fact is that you don't know all the fact, or what the facts really are at all. Everything could be made up. The reporter didn't see a police report, medical report or any finding of an investigation. he is simply reporting what is alleged by the plaintiffs in a lawsuit. Who knows I've seen 12 year old girls that are 6 feet tall and look 30. My point it you don't really know what these police officers are dealing with.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2889476
2 things stick out more to me the more I investigate this. If you get a call as an officer about 3 white hookers it is possible there are others in the area as there usually are. This 12 year old does not look like an average 12 year old girl. At the time she was 5'6" 120 lbs.
2nd thing that sticks out to me is if you read case filing the parents did not take the child to the hospital until 2 hours later.....if my 12 year old was severely beaten I would not be waiting 2 hours to take her in...
Did the cops get the area wrong? Yes they did. Were they wrong to arrest someone for resisting arrest two weeks later, sure should have been done immediately.
But did they beat this girl down, not totally sold on it.
IF this really happened where the crap was quanell X? He is always there as soon as a black man gets shot while robbing a house, or dies when he trips and falls into the bayou while running from the police and can't swim. Marching, screaming bloody murder, and acting like a fool. If he isn't even picking this up to make a buck then there is absolutely no way it is true. Because making stuff up has never bothered him before.
 
steelgluer

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20 yrs back someone :) was walking home it was 10 after 12 midnight. They walked into the gate that leads to there back door. 2 men grabed this person drug him off his property slamed him up against a car beat him he was fighting back till he hear we are the police he then stopped they made him take his clothes/shoe off they serched him for drugs his pockets his ciggarets you name it everything. Everything was wittnessed by neibors. After they found nothing with no explanation they left the person standing in the middle of the street. Well he suied he won they were fired. Everything that happened was all dissmissed by the local township/police they said it never happened that way. This happenes all the time and of course other police/city stick up for the police. Police are always right doesnt anyone now this. Whens the last time you saw a cop get a DUI LMAO NEVER. I hope these people get millions.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by SteelGluer
http:///forum/post/2889526
20 yrs back someone :) was walking home it was 10 after 12 midnight. They walked into the gate that leads to there back door. 2 men grabed this person drug him off his property slamed him up against a car beat him he was fighting back till he hear we are the police he then stopped they made him take his clothes/shoe off they serched him for drugs his pockets his ciggarets you name it everything. Everything was wittnessed by neibors. After they found nothing with no explanation they left the person standing in the middle of the street. Well he suied he won they were fired. Everything that happened was all dissmissed by the local township/police they said it never happened that way. This happenes all the time and of course other police/city stick up for the police. Police are always right doesnt anyone now this. Whens the last time you saw a cop get a DUI LMAO NEVER. I hope these people get millions.
I'm not saying it never happens, because it does, people do get mistreated by police. But you have one example. How many times does your encounter with a police officer happen where it goes buy the book. What you saw was not the norm but the exception. And should be treated as such.
However especially in houston, a black guy claiming police brutality then it turning out to be a money grabbing scheme is the norm.
 
tangman99

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I've known plenty of cops that have gotten DUIs and also arrested for other things. Lost their jobs also. I never gave anyone a break on DUI, cops included. Zero tolerance in my book. I've also gotten speeding tickets as a cop and given them also. That whole Cops get away with everything is B.S. Fact is that if you are a cop and appear in court for something like a DUI, you are going to be held to a higher standard and most likely receive a harsher punishment. There is little acceptance in the justice system for cops that break the law. If you believe there is, you are very misinformed.
 
flpriest

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2889295
Three cops driving down the road aren't going to mistake my wife for a hooker. How else are you going to mistake a girl as a hooker. She isn't holding "will <fill in the blank> you for food" sign. Of course these anti-police websites aren't going to say she was dressed like a hooker.
I'm more inclined to believe the cops were straight vs drug addict dad, and a girl who trained professionals thought was turning tricks.
But then again, I've been known to not be logical either...
AS someone with first hand knowledge of galveston. I feel perfectly comfortable saying ghetto. Because that is basically what all of galveston is. I've lived in the ghetto, I've dealt with the general public in the ghetto. There are good people who live in the ghetto, but a "family" where the daughter is walking around in skimpy clothes and a dad with drugs in the car. Well like I said earlier. It is all statistics. And for those to be wrong you have to believe that EVERY single jury in America are a bunch of racist pigs.
If your wife was dressed like a hooker, that's her buisness, if your daughter dressed like a hooker, that's her, and your buisness. If your mother dressed like a hooker that's her buisness. My point is just because the cops thought she was dressed like a hooker is no reason to harrass her or her family. They should have had some probable cause, like observing her trying to "sell" herself as a hooker before approaching her. Isn't that police protacall?
Now before I start my next statement, let me make myself clear, I am in no way in favor of ANY drug use...Now, as for believing the cops over some drug addicted black man, my take on this is, if the cops wouldn't have F'ed up and played cowboy on this 12 year old provacativly dressed black girl, while they were supposed to be looking for three, count them three, "White" women prostitutes, this incident would have never happened. Therfore, as much as I am opposed to drug use, the case against the Father should be dropped. I'm no laywer, but I think under, "no prbable cause", or "illegal search and seisure", or something like that. The 12 yr. old's and the Fathers Civil rights were violated! Gheto or no gheto, suburb or no suburb, no matter where you live or the circumstances around you! Just my .02 cents, and in todays economy, that's worth about .0025
 
flpriest

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Originally Posted by TangMan99
http:///forum/post/2890141
I've known plenty of cops that have gotten DUIs and also arrested for other things. Lost their jobs also. I never gave anyone a break on DUI, cops included. Zero tolerance in my book. I've also gotten speeding tickets as a cop and given them also. That whole Cops get away with everything is B.S. Fact is that if you are a cop and appear in court for something like a DUI, you are going to be held to a higher standard and most likely receive a harsher punishment. There is little acceptance in the justice system for cops that break the law. If you believe there is, you are very misinformed.
and I know plenty of cops that have gotten a ride home after being pulled over, and found to have had a little too much at a party, also I know a few cops that have given thier friends a ride home after being pulled over for drinking too much. It happens... This is what a lot of people feel is an unfair act of the police distibuting "their justice system", myself included. If you have never engauged in this type of "justice" then good for you! I applaud you! But even you can not say this doesn't happen. I'm sure you have heard of it... If you haven't

If a cop does get busted and makes it to court, they should be held to a higher standard. They are supposed to be upholding the law, not breaking it. Especially for something as simle as DUI.
i will now step down from my soap box...
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by flpriest
http:///forum/post/2890524
If your wife was dressed like a hooker, that's her buisness, if your daughter dressed like a hooker, that's her, and your buisness. If your mother dressed like a hooker that's her buisness. My point is just because the cops thought she was dressed like a hooker is no reason to harrass her or her family. They should have had some probable cause, like observing her trying to "sell" herself as a hooker before approaching her. Isn't that police protacall?
Now before I start my next statement, let me make myself clear, I am in no way in favor of ANY drug use...Now, as for believing the cops over some drug addicted black man, my take on this is, if the cops wouldn't have F'ed up and played cowboy on this 12 year old provacativly dressed black girl, while they were supposed to be looking for three, count them three, "White" women prostitutes, this incident would have never happened. Therfore, as much as I am opposed to drug use, the case against the Father should be dropped. I'm no laywer, but I think under, "no prbable cause", or "illegal search and seisure", or something like that. The 12 yr. old's and the Fathers Civil rights were violated! Gheto or no gheto, suburb or no suburb, no matter where you live or the circumstances around you! Just my .02 cents, and in todays economy, that's worth about .0025

you live in michigan. don't start talking about texas being corrupt.
And you fight a cop when he is arresting someone that is just cause...
I'm sorry, but driving down the road you see what looks to be a hooker it is not playing cowboy to arrest her.

As for this looking for other prostitute thing, if you are driving down the road and see what appears to be another crime happening, are you just going to ignore a non-major call. Like go check out three hookers. To check out what appears to be another hooker in the neighborhood.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2889295
Three cops driving down the road aren't going to mistake my wife for a hooker. How else are you going to mistake a girl as a hooker. She isn't holding "will <fill in the blank> you for food" sign. Of course these anti-police websites aren't going to say she was dressed like a hooker.
I'm more inclined to believe the cops were straight vs drug addict dad, and a girl who trained professionals thought was turning tricks.
But then again, I've been known to not be logical either...
AS someone with first hand knowledge of galveston. I feel perfectly comfortable saying ghetto. Because that is basically what all of galveston is. I've lived in the ghetto, I've dealt with the general public in the ghetto. There are good people who live in the ghetto, but a "family" where the daughter is walking around in skimpy clothes and a dad with drugs in the car. Well like I said earlier. It is all statistics. And for those to be wrong you have to believe that EVERY single jury in America are a bunch of racist pigs.

All of Galveston is a ghetto? Now that's a racist statement if I've ever heard one. Guess you live in The Woodlands or River Oaks do you? My family grew up in Galveston. Although it's an island city, there's some very nice neighborhoods there. You must spend too much time on Stewart Beach or down on the Seawall. I can see why you're siding with the cops on this one. If you're stereotyping Galveston as a ghetto town, then of course every girl there is a hooker, and every man is a drug dealer, so they had just cause to do what they did.
From what I got out of the Galveston article, it was a simple case of mistaken identity. The girl tried to protect herself as best she could by hanging onto the tree, and then calling for help from her Dad. What the article doesn't state is the amount of time it took for the Dad to come out after her heard his daughter screaming. Was it 5 minutes, 10? During that time, what transpired between the girl and the 3 or 4 cops? Did they immediately announce themselves as policemen, or did they just jump on her? If they didn't immediately announce who they were, I can understand why the girl fought. If the father came out and saw what happened, then I imagine he tried doing whatever he could to stop the attack. That's probably when the cops announced who they were. This was probably after the one cop hit the girl with the flashlight. This would also explain why the parents asked if their daughter could stay at home to be calmed down, since they then knew they were cops. Why did it take 2 hours for them to take her to the hospital? Depends. Was she arrested and taken to jail? If so, I'd be surprised she made it to the hospital in 2 hours. If they let her stay home, I could also see why it took 2 hours to take her. It probably took that long for everyone to calm down after the cops left, and assess exactly what her injuries were and how bad they were. They may have also called an attorney and he suggested they go to the hospital to get her injuries documented. What hilarious about this whole procedure is it sounds like it'll take over a year just to get the trial to court. So much for getting a speedy trial...
 
tangman99

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Originally Posted by flpriest
http:///forum/post/2890526
and I know plenty of cops that have gotten a ride home after being pulled over, and found to have had a little too much at a party, also I know a few cops that have given thier friends a ride home after being pulled over for drinking too much. It happens... This is what a lot of people feel is an unfair act of the police distibuting "their justice system", myself included. If you have never engauged in this type of "justice" then good for you! I applaud you! But even you can not say this doesn't happen. I'm sure you have heard of it... If you haven't

If a cop does get busted and makes it to court, they should be held to a higher standard. They are supposed to be upholding the law, not breaking it. Especially for something as simle as DUI.
i will now step down from my soap box...

Of course it happens. I was addressing the statment "Whens the last time you saw a cop get a DUI LMAO NEVER". Sort of disproves that doesn't it.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2890676
All of Galveston is a ghetto? Now that's a racist statement if I've ever heard one. Guess you live in The Woodlands or River Oaks do you? My family grew up in Galveston. Although it's an island city, there's some very nice neighborhoods there. You must spend too much time on Stewart Beach or down on the Seawall. I can see why you're siding with the cops on this one. If you're stereotyping Galveston as a ghetto town, then of course every girl there is a hooker, and every man is a drug dealer, so they had just cause to do what they did.
Hey I'm not the one calling calling all cops bullies or crooks. Galveston is a dirty nasty town. you can go on just about any corner and find drugs or whatever you want. And I grew up in the ghetto I know what to look for.
But I'm not the racist, you are the one implying that Ghettos are black. By saying my statement is racist, I'm not.
BTW I grew up a stone through from the border I know what I ghetto looks like.
Look if you are local to houston at all, i'm sure you've heard of quanell X. The race bating "community agitator." He hasn't even picked this up. And this is the EXACT type of bs case that he is typically trumpeting. If he won't touch it THERE IS NO WAY IT IS TRUE.
 
flpriest

flpriest

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2890650
you live in michigan. don't start talking about texas being corrupt.
And you fight a cop when he is arresting someone that is just cause...
I'm sorry, but driving down the road you see what looks to be a hooker it is not playing cowboy to arrest her.

As for this looking for other prostitute thing, if you are driving down the road and see what appears to be another crime happening, are you just going to ignore a non-major call. Like go check out three hookers. To check out what appears to be another hooker in the neighborhood.
look stdreb, i'm not looking to slight you... every city in every state has their moments. my parents live in Katy, i've been to galvingston... what i'm sayin is this don't sound right, no matter what side your on...

relax dude
What I can't seem to grasp is your lack of empathy, and remember... I'm from michigan...
 
flpriest

flpriest

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Originally Posted by TangMan99
http:///forum/post/2890700
Of course it happens. I was addressing the statment "Whens the last time you saw a cop get a DUI LMAO NEVER". Sort of disproves that doesn't it.
Then what you say here is, sometimes mistakes happen...

That's what I say as well... but, should we accept these mistakes when the constible is the offender?
 
flpriest

flpriest

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Originally Posted by flpriest
http:///forum/post/2890524
If your wife was dressed like a hooker, that's her buisness, if your daughter dressed like a hooker, that's her, and your buisness. If your mother dressed like a hooker that's her buisness. My point is just because the cops thought she was dressed like a hooker is no reason to harrass her or her family. They should have had some probable cause, like observing her trying to "sell" herself as a hooker before approaching her. Isn't that police protacall?
Now before I start my next statement, let me make myself clear, I am in no way in favor of ANY drug use...Now, as for believing the cops over some drug addicted black man, my take on this is, if the cops wouldn't have F'ed up and played cowboy on this 12 year old provacativly dressed black girl, while they were supposed to be looking for three, count them three, "White" women prostitutes, this incident would have never happened. Therfore, as much as I am opposed to drug use, the case against the Father should be dropped. I'm no laywer, but I think under, "no prbable cause", or "illegal search and seisure", or something like that. The 12 yr. old's and the Fathers Civil rights were violated! Gheto or no gheto, suburb or no suburb, no matter where you live or the circumstances around you! Just my .02 cents, and in todays economy, that's worth about .0025

I guess the jury is still out on wether the whole case should be thrown out because of "probable cause" no matter what you all ( stdreb & tangman) this case should have never been...

3 white females= 1 black female?
common...
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by flpriest
http:///forum/post/2890952
look stdreb, i'm not looking to slight you... every city in every state has their moments. my parents live in Katy, i've been to galvingston... what i'm sayin is this don't sound right, no matter what side your on...

relax dude
What I can't seem to grasp is your lack of empathy, and remember... I'm from michigan...

empathy, I'm just responding to the vitriol being shown to the police. In this case. Dude this just happened three weeks ago.
http://www.kvue.com/news/state/stori....3e4f7822.html
Turns out this guy ran after his wife called 911 on a domestic dispute call. He gets pulled over a few minutes later. Runs from the cop. Ambushed the cop around the corner shoot him in the leg. Then walks up to the guy and executes him.
So when I see people attacking police. When and taking the words of a law suit (which is the only account as to what happened in public right now) it just ticks me off.
What you don't get is that I'm showing empathy. To underpaid people who risk their lives every day, so that soreheads can call them bullies and crooks. To take the word of 3 officers over a drug user and a 12 year old. This is just WRONG.
If it turns out these officers broke the law. Then they need to go to jail. But to crucify them in some knee jerk reaction based on the words of a drug user and a 12 year old. Before any investigation, in civil court, (the DA didn't touch this) (Quanell didn't touch this) just plain ticks me off.
 
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