The One Question-Answer Thread
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scopus tang
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Wow, didn't take this thread long to go south!
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
Wow, really?
That wasn't meant to be rude at all. Maybe before everyone jumps on my back about trying to tell a new hobbiest to think for themselves and read a bit, think about what I am saying.
If someone else is going to do everything for you, why didn't you have some else set up the tank, and maintain it too? Then you wouldn't even have to ask things, and then get mad when someone offers to point you in the right direction about where to find a more in-depth answer. Since your tank is so "special" and set up so "differently", then you could piece together your own answer, based on the knowledge you absorbed through about 10 minutes of reading.
Since that was so hard,lemme help you out
Seriously rlablan, while your comments about searching and googling may be true, they also pertain to 99% of all questions that are asked on SWF or any other forum that is out there. The point of a forum like this one, especially in the New Hobbiest section, is to be able to ask questions (which have been asked a billion times) and get answers, thereby hopefully aquiring more than one opinion/point of view, and/or benefiting from someone else's experience with the same thing. If you're not interested in answering questions that have been asked before, you don't really have any buisness being in the New Hobbiest section IMHO.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
Wow, really?
That wasn't meant to be rude at all. Maybe before everyone jumps on my back about trying to tell a new hobbiest to think for themselves and read a bit, think about what I am saying.
If someone else is going to do everything for you, why didn't you have some else set up the tank, and maintain it too? Then you wouldn't even have to ask things, and then get mad when someone offers to point you in the right direction about where to find a more in-depth answer. Since your tank is so "special" and set up so "differently", then you could piece together your own answer, based on the knowledge you absorbed through about 10 minutes of reading.
Since that was so hard,lemme help you out
Seriously rlablan, while your comments about searching and googling may be true, they also pertain to 99% of all questions that are asked on SWF or any other forum that is out there. The point of a forum like this one, especially in the New Hobbiest section, is to be able to ask questions (which have been asked a billion times) and get answers, thereby hopefully aquiring more than one opinion/point of view, and/or benefiting from someone else's experience with the same thing. If you're not interested in answering questions that have been asked before, you don't really have any buisness being in the New Hobbiest section IMHO.
scopus tang
Active Member
Originally Posted by ilkaisha
http:///forum/post/3186591
We are currently cycling 125 gallons, RO water plus salt, 80 lbs crushed coral substrate from an established tank that was stored 1 month prior to being placed in ours, around 80 pounds of dead rock, and a new 5 lb live rock.
After being full for just over a week, our ammonia is at .5, Nitrites well over 5 ppm, pH 7.8 . . .
boyfriend is a previous hobbyist, and I am a complete noob - SO, all that said:
- beyond "add more rock and/or sand" what might you suggest. (we know this, we intend to get more live rock, and are pretty much not in love with the coral. we do have more if we decide not to swap for sand, though)
- we have a little feather duster that just showed up on one of our rocks. where from?
- any guess as to how long the cycle will take to complete?
- what should our water change be at that point?
sorry for probably repeating questions you've answered a billion times.
- ilky
Ilky, in case you haven't gotten your questions answered:
May I ask why you choose to go with crushed coral rather than sand. Can you describe how the CC was "stored" for a month.
Most likely source of the feather duster was the new 5lb LR that you added, it probably simply migrated.
Cycle usually takes around 6 weeks to 2 months, but maybe longer.
A 20% water change once the cycle reaches its end point; nitrate is typically sufficient.
HTH
http:///forum/post/3186591
We are currently cycling 125 gallons, RO water plus salt, 80 lbs crushed coral substrate from an established tank that was stored 1 month prior to being placed in ours, around 80 pounds of dead rock, and a new 5 lb live rock.
After being full for just over a week, our ammonia is at .5, Nitrites well over 5 ppm, pH 7.8 . . .
boyfriend is a previous hobbyist, and I am a complete noob - SO, all that said:
- beyond "add more rock and/or sand" what might you suggest. (we know this, we intend to get more live rock, and are pretty much not in love with the coral. we do have more if we decide not to swap for sand, though)
- we have a little feather duster that just showed up on one of our rocks. where from?
- any guess as to how long the cycle will take to complete?
- what should our water change be at that point?
sorry for probably repeating questions you've answered a billion times.
- ilky
Ilky, in case you haven't gotten your questions answered:
May I ask why you choose to go with crushed coral rather than sand. Can you describe how the CC was "stored" for a month.
Most likely source of the feather duster was the new 5lb LR that you added, it probably simply migrated.
Cycle usually takes around 6 weeks to 2 months, but maybe longer.
A 20% water change once the cycle reaches its end point; nitrate is typically sufficient.
HTH
rlablan
Active Member
Hey... originally I said to just check on the forum for a few in depth answers, not google. I was just making my point since apparently everyone took my original post as being so terrible. It's not that I have no intent to answer questions, as I have been answering questions, but I thought that something this simple could be found easily and the poster could learn a little bit more about the nitrogen cycle, rather than just getting the old "takes 3-6 weeks". What could possibly be learned from that?
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As far as glass and acrylic, glass can be scratched and it is alot easier than you think. However acrylic is more easily scratched than glass, IME.
The big thing for me is that the scratches in acrylic are more easily removed. They can be buffed out, with fish still in the tank and you can do with your hand pretty easily.
I have yet to find a good way to remove the scratched from my glass... but I also haven't tried that hard either.
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As far as glass and acrylic, glass can be scratched and it is alot easier than you think. However acrylic is more easily scratched than glass, IME.
The big thing for me is that the scratches in acrylic are more easily removed. They can be buffed out, with fish still in the tank and you can do with your hand pretty easily.
I have yet to find a good way to remove the scratched from my glass... but I also haven't tried that hard either.
ilkaisha
New Member
We seem to be cycling quite a bit faster than that, as it happens. We've only had it completely filled for about 2 weeks. Ammonia is down from 4ppm to 0 and also our Nitrites have gone from >5ppm to 0. Nitrates don't seem to have spiked yet, hovering around 20.
The coral came as a part of the set-up, which was purchased used. It was stored in sealed salt buckets, and was still wet from its last system. Ultimately, I expect that when we move next year, we will switch over to sand. The move will only be a short distance - maybe 30 miles or so, but tygoef was anxious to get it up and running before August. Understandable, I think.
The coral came as a part of the set-up, which was purchased used. It was stored in sealed salt buckets, and was still wet from its last system. Ultimately, I expect that when we move next year, we will switch over to sand. The move will only be a short distance - maybe 30 miles or so, but tygoef was anxious to get it up and running before August. Understandable, I think.
ilkaisha
New Member
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
That wasn't meant to be rude at all. Maybe before everyone jumps on my back about trying to tell a new hobbiest to think for themselves and read a bit, think about what I am saying.
If it wasn't meant to be rude, maybe you should keep it simple and refrain from being rude.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
You're telling me that this has never been talked about on SWF.com? This is something that I see monthly in hobbiest magazines and daily on this site and others.
As have canisters.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
If someone else is going to do everything for you, why didn't you have some else set up the tank, and maintain it too? Then you wouldn't even have to ask things, and then get mad when someone offers to point you in the right direction about where to find a more in-depth answer. Since your tank is so "special" and set up so "differently", then you could piece together your own answer, based on the knowledge you absorbed through about 10 minutes of reading.
I set up the tank, I'm not asking the questions, she is. I also maintain the tank. If you bothered to read my post, you'd see where I pointed out that she was looking for an opinion other than mine.
You put more thought into not answering her questions than it would take you to put together a thoughtful response making her feel welcome and helping her to better understand what is going on with her tank.
http:///forum/post/3189314
That wasn't meant to be rude at all. Maybe before everyone jumps on my back about trying to tell a new hobbiest to think for themselves and read a bit, think about what I am saying.
If it wasn't meant to be rude, maybe you should keep it simple and refrain from being rude.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
You're telling me that this has never been talked about on SWF.com? This is something that I see monthly in hobbiest magazines and daily on this site and others.
As have canisters.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
If someone else is going to do everything for you, why didn't you have some else set up the tank, and maintain it too? Then you wouldn't even have to ask things, and then get mad when someone offers to point you in the right direction about where to find a more in-depth answer. Since your tank is so "special" and set up so "differently", then you could piece together your own answer, based on the knowledge you absorbed through about 10 minutes of reading.
I set up the tank, I'm not asking the questions, she is. I also maintain the tank. If you bothered to read my post, you'd see where I pointed out that she was looking for an opinion other than mine.
You put more thought into not answering her questions than it would take you to put together a thoughtful response making her feel welcome and helping her to better understand what is going on with her tank.
tygoef
New Member
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
That wasn't meant to be rude at all. Maybe before everyone jumps on my back about trying to tell a new hobbiest to think for themselves and read a bit, think about what I am saying.
If it wasn't meant to be rude, maybe you should keep it simple and refrain from being rude.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
You're telling me that this has never been talked about on SWF.com? This is something that I see monthly in hobbiest magazines and daily on this site and others.
As have canisters.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
If someone else is going to do everything for you, why didn't you have some else set up the tank, and maintain it too? Then you wouldn't even have to ask things, and then get mad when someone offers to point you in the right direction about where to find a more in-depth answer. Since your tank is so "special" and set up so "differently", then you could piece together your own answer, based on the knowledge you absorbed through about 10 minutes of reading.
I set up the tank, I'm not asking the questions, she is. I also maintain the tank. If you bothered to read my post, you'd see where I pointed out that she was looking for an opinion other than mine.
You put more thought into not answering her questions than it would take you to put together a thoughtful response making her feel welcome and helping her to better understand what is going on with her tank.
http:///forum/post/3189314
That wasn't meant to be rude at all. Maybe before everyone jumps on my back about trying to tell a new hobbiest to think for themselves and read a bit, think about what I am saying.
If it wasn't meant to be rude, maybe you should keep it simple and refrain from being rude.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
You're telling me that this has never been talked about on SWF.com? This is something that I see monthly in hobbiest magazines and daily on this site and others.
As have canisters.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189314
If someone else is going to do everything for you, why didn't you have some else set up the tank, and maintain it too? Then you wouldn't even have to ask things, and then get mad when someone offers to point you in the right direction about where to find a more in-depth answer. Since your tank is so "special" and set up so "differently", then you could piece together your own answer, based on the knowledge you absorbed through about 10 minutes of reading.
I set up the tank, I'm not asking the questions, she is. I also maintain the tank. If you bothered to read my post, you'd see where I pointed out that she was looking for an opinion other than mine.
You put more thought into not answering her questions than it would take you to put together a thoughtful response making her feel welcome and helping her to better understand what is going on with her tank.
scopus tang
Active Member
Originally Posted by ilkaisha
http:///forum/post/3189643
We seem to be cycling quite a bit faster than that, as it happens. We've only had it completely filled for about 2 weeks. Ammonia is down from 4ppm to 0 and also our Nitrites have gone from >5ppm to 0. Nitrates don't seem to have spiked yet, hovering around 20.
The coral came as a part of the set-up, which was purchased used. It was stored in sealed salt buckets, and was still wet from its last system. Ultimately, I expect that when we move next year, we will switch over to sand. The move will only be a short distance - maybe 30 miles or so, but tygoef was anxious to get it up and running before August. Understandable, I think.
I wouldn't be concerned about cycling faster, especially if you used CC and rocks from an already established system, although if everything was kept in sealed buckets I'm rather surprised. Such a situation should have resulted in the die-off of most aerobic organisms.
Understandable to be anxious to get things up and going.
http:///forum/post/3189643
We seem to be cycling quite a bit faster than that, as it happens. We've only had it completely filled for about 2 weeks. Ammonia is down from 4ppm to 0 and also our Nitrites have gone from >5ppm to 0. Nitrates don't seem to have spiked yet, hovering around 20.
The coral came as a part of the set-up, which was purchased used. It was stored in sealed salt buckets, and was still wet from its last system. Ultimately, I expect that when we move next year, we will switch over to sand. The move will only be a short distance - maybe 30 miles or so, but tygoef was anxious to get it up and running before August. Understandable, I think.
I wouldn't be concerned about cycling faster, especially if you used CC and rocks from an already established system, although if everything was kept in sealed buckets I'm rather surprised. Such a situation should have resulted in the die-off of most aerobic organisms.
Understandable to be anxious to get things up and going.
rlablan
Active Member
I never asked about canisters... Why do you keep talking about that? Just let it die.
Obviously you found my answer rude, it wasn't meant to be, and you will keep saying this because you/she didn't get the answer you wanted. Get over it, the question was answered, I am rude/terrible/ whatever you think... If thats what you think, then keep it to yourself because I think everyone is over it here.
Quit bringing up stuff about being rude also... You aren't being nice yourself, and the poster had to have posts edited because she can't seem to keep her words tasteful or respectful.
Obviously you found my answer rude, it wasn't meant to be, and you will keep saying this because you/she didn't get the answer you wanted. Get over it, the question was answered, I am rude/terrible/ whatever you think... If thats what you think, then keep it to yourself because I think everyone is over it here.
Quit bringing up stuff about being rude also... You aren't being nice yourself, and the poster had to have posts edited because she can't seem to keep her words tasteful or respectful.
tank a holic
Active Member
FLOP
nice try pez
nice try pez
tank a holic
Active Member
thats what I use....
but Im mixing 30 gallons at a time, I guess you need to make sure the pump isn't too powerfull that it shoots water out of the mixing container
but Im mixing 30 gallons at a time, I guess you need to make sure the pump isn't too powerfull that it shoots water out of the mixing container
tygoef
New Member
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189660
I never asked about canisters... Why do you keep talking about that? Just let it die.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3188561
That being said, what about a canister?
I usually reserve question marks for questions, I didn't realize you didn't, sorry.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189660
Obviously you found my answer rude, it wasn't meant to be, and you will keep saying this because you/she didn't get the answer you wanted.
Anytime you put more thought into NOT answering a question than it would take to answer said question, it IS rude, to say the least.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189660
If thats what you think, then keep it to yourself because I think everyone is over it here.
I'm not, so everyone is not, and you're obviously not, or you'd stop talking about it as well.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189660
Quit bringing up stuff about being rude also... You aren't being nice yourself, and the poster had to have posts edited because she can't seem to keep her words tasteful or respectful.
I'm not claiming not to be rude, that'd be you.
http:///forum/post/3189660
I never asked about canisters... Why do you keep talking about that? Just let it die.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3188561
That being said, what about a canister?
I usually reserve question marks for questions, I didn't realize you didn't, sorry.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189660
Obviously you found my answer rude, it wasn't meant to be, and you will keep saying this because you/she didn't get the answer you wanted.
Anytime you put more thought into NOT answering a question than it would take to answer said question, it IS rude, to say the least.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189660
If thats what you think, then keep it to yourself because I think everyone is over it here.
I'm not, so everyone is not, and you're obviously not, or you'd stop talking about it as well.
Originally Posted by rlablan
http:///forum/post/3189660
Quit bringing up stuff about being rude also... You aren't being nice yourself, and the poster had to have posts edited because she can't seem to keep her words tasteful or respectful.
I'm not claiming not to be rude, that'd be you.
tank a holic
Active Member
Originally Posted by DrTITO
http:///forum/post/3189754
ya i have a 75 gallon container on stand by,i will be carefull as the pump was rated for 8 feet of lift. good for water changes too i guess.
thanks
yeah....
I use mine to mix the water and get it to temp then i put the hose on and refill after the WC works great and is faster that a comperable costing return pump
I also have an 8' pump but my container's only about 36"
it hooves the surface about 3" so dont get it too full
alot of times to mix the little bit of salt on the bottom i'll lay it on its side against the side... but be careful as it sometimes sits its self upright
http:///forum/post/3189754
ya i have a 75 gallon container on stand by,i will be carefull as the pump was rated for 8 feet of lift. good for water changes too i guess.
thanks
yeah....
I use mine to mix the water and get it to temp then i put the hose on and refill after the WC works great and is faster that a comperable costing return pump
I also have an 8' pump but my container's only about 36"
it hooves the surface about 3" so dont get it too full
alot of times to mix the little bit of salt on the bottom i'll lay it on its side against the side... but be careful as it sometimes sits its self upright
drtito
Member
Originally Posted by tank a holic
http:///forum/post/3189802
yeah....
I use mine to mix the water and get it to temp then i put the hose on and refill after the WC works great and is faster that a comperable costing return pump
I also have an 8' pump but my container's only about 36"
it hooves the surface about 3" so dont get it too full
alot of times to mix the little bit of salt on the bottom i'll lay it on its side against the side... but be careful as it sometimes sits its self upright
thanks for the tip
http:///forum/post/3189802
yeah....
I use mine to mix the water and get it to temp then i put the hose on and refill after the WC works great and is faster that a comperable costing return pump
I also have an 8' pump but my container's only about 36"
it hooves the surface about 3" so dont get it too full
alot of times to mix the little bit of salt on the bottom i'll lay it on its side against the side... but be careful as it sometimes sits its self upright
thanks for the tip