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Originally Posted by
Darthtang AW http:///t/391215/theres-no-voter-fraud/20#post_3468441
How hard is it to obtain a valid photo idnetification card. People with limited means of transportation manage to go down to the social offices for welfare and food stamp form submissions. Give me a break.
I just gave you an example of voter fraud. You can register a dog to vote for christs sake and receive your voter registration card in the mail. If it wasn't a big deal....why is he now possibly facing 5 years in jail and/or a 10,000 dollar fine. Apparently you don't read news stories to well.
This occurred in your own backyard even. Dallas County
Melvin Porter, although he died in January 2007, cast a vote in the March 4, 2008 Democratic primary in Dallas County. A subsequent investigation by Texas Watchdog turned up the names of 6,000 dead voters on the Dallas County list of registered voters
For some people in rural areas, it's a one or two hour drive to the closest DPS office. You also have to factor in you need some sort of documentation to prove who you are (i.e birth certificate). You'd be amazed at the number of elderly people who no longer drive that don't have an official copy of their birth certificate. So now they have to go to their County Registry, and PAY for a copy of their birth certificate once they can prove they are the person requesting the document. So they have to find transportation to that office, then they have to find a way to whatever DPS office is close to them. The DPS offices in Texas are only open 8 - 6, monday through Friday. What if you work and can't get off during those times? What if you need someone to take you, and they can't get off of work? As it stands, most voting precincts are in local neighborhoods where they are easily accessible for these people to get to.
I have an aunt and uncle that live in Northeast Texas that haven't had a need for an ID for over twenty years. They basically live off the land, either growing their own food, or raising it (they have cattle, goats, pigs, and a good sized chicken coop that gives them all the chicken and eggs they need.) My cousins live in the same area, and bring them any other staples they need. When it comes to voting, they catch a ride down to their local community center where everyone knows who they are. My uncle would probably cuss someone out if they dare asked him for an ID. Now if he wants to vote, he has to get one of his kids to take him 1 1/2 hours to Austin to get this ID. I personally don't see it happening, but he'll follow the law if he has to.
Citizens for Election Integrity Minnesota (CEIMN), in collaboration with MUUSJA, released a report on November 22, 2010, detailing results of a survey sent to all of Minnesota’s County Attorneys. The authors gathered extensive data about County Attorney investigations into ineligible voting and prosecutions of voter fraud based on the 2008 elections.
The report shows that of 2.9 million ballots cast in the 2008 statewide election, only nine ten-thousandths of one percent (0.0009%) of votes cast led to convictions for fraud. Based on the findings of the report, MUUSJA Voting Rights co-chair
Jennifer Jewel Thomas led off the press conference by saying "let me give you the executive summary: voter fraud is not a problem in Minnesota and a photo identification requirement for voters is completely unnecessary." Carol Johnson, report co-author and MUUSJA Voting Rights co-chair, presented attendees an overview of the safeguards in place in Minnesota to protect the integrity of our elections.
http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf
Your question about the guy registering his dog to vote brings up a good question - why would anyone purposely commit voter fraud knowing they could face a big fine and prison time? What would they have to gain? In order to change the results of an election, in most cases you'd have to have at least 5% of the total votes cast to be fraudulent in any major election. If this is a national election like the President, you're talking HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (if not more) of fraudulent votes in order to change the outcome of that election. I imagine you could influence some local elections if you could muster up enough illegal votes, but there's been no reported cases of this occurring that I've ever read.
