Vodka Dosing.

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3042963
Yeah, well gotta say I have re-thought that weekly update
and nothing much happens on a weekly basis, so I will now update when some timer
goes of in my head or when someone ratlle my chain. So Ms. Kitty, in the mean time take a
.

 

spanko

Active Member
Nice looking pup, how much does your weigh? You must have seen a picture of mine somewhere huh?
 

spanko

Active Member
okay 16-Jun-09 updates
17-mar-09 birdsnest

16-Jun-09 birdsnest

17-mar-09 milli

16-jun-09 milli

17-mar-09 milli on right

16-jun-09 same as on right

16-jun-09 another birds nest

16-09 digitata
 

spanko

Active Member
160jun-09 slimer

16-jun-09 sunset monti

All in all happy with vodka dosing and will continue
 

meowzer

Moderator
Lookin really good...I was wondering if we were ever gonna get an update....Apparently the dosing works...Too bad I'm too selfish and don't want to share my vodka
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Henry how and what are the differences in the matter on your filter material with your dosing. how is the product from your skimmer different from pre dosing
also what were your nitrate readings pre and post
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/post/3065640
Henry how and what are the differences in the matter on your filter material with your dosing. how is the product from your skimmer different from pre dosing
also what were your nitrate readings pre and post
Filter material, floss, is changed daily and does have accumulated detritus. Prior to dosing the floss was cleaner when changed. I change it daily because I do not want it to become a part of the biofiltration, I want the tank surfaces to house all bacteria.
I can't give you a good read on the skimmer because I changed from a wooden airstone skimmer to a new needle wheel in the past couple of months. Skimmate in the new is darker than the airstone one but I believe the needle wheel is a much better pc. of equipment.
Nitrate readings have always been undetectable in this tank. But I cannot say that there is any macro algae. I do know that cleaning the glass can go about 4 days now where it was a daily maintenance issue pre dosing.
I have also noticed that the Chaetomorpha is not growing and in some measure it is disintegrating now.
Take a look at the pictures here Joe.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/332430/spankos-bio-cube-what-in-posidens-name-is-he-up-to-now/420
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Henry do you have a refug on this system? I have come to my own conclusion that vodka dosing is such a strong method of nitrate removal and coral enhancement that it actually will out compete caulerpa and surely Cheato for nutrients hence you will see a slowdown in growth and even death in both of those universally used nitrate exports. I think you need to tread lightly on your endorsements here. As you and I know full well we are dealing with a very powerful tool
 

locoyo386

Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3065743
Henry do you have a refug on this system? I have come to my own conclusion that vodka dosing is such a strong method of nitrate removal and coral enhancement that it actually will out compete caulerpa and surely Cheato for nutrients hence you will see a slowdown in growth and even death in both of those universally used nitrate exports. I think you need to tread lightly on your endorsements here. As you and I know full well we are dealing with a very powerful tool
Hi there,
Can you dose with rubbing alcohol?
 

rlablan

Active Member
I am new to the hobby, and just caught this thread... Am I to understand that the last poast asked if you could put isopropyl rubbing alcohol and or vodka in your tank? why would you do this, and what does it do? Is this supposed to enhance growth of corals or slow it down after using the coral frenzy food/treatment.
Sorry, dumb question, but I am just trying to absorb as much knowledge as I can surrounding this great hobby.
Thanks
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3065743
Henry do you have a refug on this system? I have come to my own conclusion that vodka dosing is such a strong method of nitrate removal and coral enhancement that it actually will out compete caulerpa and surely Cheato for nutrients hence you will see a slowdown in growth and even death in both of those universally used nitrate exports. I think you need to tread lightly on your endorsements here. As you and I know full well we are dealing with a very powerful tool
Thanx Joe. I put this into post #27 when I started this and will repeat it here. I caution anyone wanting to try this method to do more research than you see here before starting. A simple google search will bring up an abundance of information. Here is my disclaimer;
"I have my reasons for trying Vodka dosing and explained them in the first post, coral color, polyp extension, ultra low nutrients so that I can feed the coral more to affect growth, and reduction in some of the microalgae in the tank. That being said there are a number of things that have to be considered prior to undertaking the risk involved as my friend Joe is alluding to. First and most importantly is the need for a skimmer that works. As the dosing works it increase the denitrifying bacteria in the system for the purpose of reducing - eliminating nitrate and phosphate. As this increase in bacteria happens and reduction of there nitrates and phosphates happen the is die-off in the bacteria. This is where the skimmer is necessary to remove the dead - dying bacteria. The skimmer is also an aid in maintaining oxygen in the water. The other risks include but are not limited to yellow water, burning of the tips of the SPS coral and in some cases loss of certain coral, and cyano outbreaks. My attempt here will be monitored daily to allow me to stop at the moment I see any problems developing and take action to reverse it to the best of my ability. I will also, after following the other biocube thread, not increase my dosing. I will maintain a 1 drop dose of both the vodka and the amino acid throughout the time I continue this trial. Do read up on it if you are even considering dosing vodka based on what you will read here. I will not explain all of the ins and outs but only the results I see from it. It is up to you as the keeper of your systems to understand what you are doing, the risks involved, and whether or not you are willing to take those risks. I am for the moment."
Joe as I said I am seeing the Chaeto dying off more than growing and relate this to the ULN (Ultra low nutrients) I am starting to achieve. The goal again is to get to that point so that I may feed the tank (read coral here) more to obtain my desired results. As for your statement here "I think you need to tread lightly on your endorsements here." I have no endorsement. This is my experiment and I am ready and willing to take whatever results I achieve up to and including a total tank crash, however I believe that I have enough of an understanding here to warrant the risks I am taking.
 

spanko

Active Member

Originally Posted by locoyo386
http:///forum/post/3065792
Hi there,
Can you dose with rubbing alcohol?
No rubbing alcohol is not to be used
in this method.
Originally Posted by rlablan

http:///forum/post/3065963
I am new to the hobby, and just caught this thread... Am I to understand that the last poast asked if you could put isopropyl rubbing alcohol and or vodka in your tank? why would you do this, and what does it do? Is this supposed to enhance growth of corals or slow it down after using the coral frenzy food/treatment.
Sorry, dumb question, but I am just trying to absorb as much knowledge as I can surrounding this great hobby.
Thanks
If you have not read from the beginning of the thread, please see my post before this one. No dumb questions. There is plenty of information on vodka - vinegar - sugar - Prodibio - Zeovit dosing available out on the net that a google search will bring up. I encourage to continue to ask and understand and to do some more research. Thanx for looking in.
 
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