What to do with 29G

spanko

Active Member
Are you going to keep the coralline cleaned off the back? If so I vote blue, if not I vote black.
On the water changes 3 gallons when it reaches .5 ammonia but I am still a little concerned that there is not much life to save here and that you would be wasting your time and money doing a soft cycle.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3020553
Are you going to keep the coralline cleaned off the back? If so I vote blue, if not I vote black.
On the water changes 3 gallons when it reaches .5 ammonia but I am still a little concerned that there is not much life to save here and that you would be wasting your time and money doing a soft cycle.
OK..If any algae grows on back yes..so I will go with black then....
So should I not do the w/c???...should I throw in a piece of my rock?
 

spanko

Active Member
You should slow yourself down. Doing the first water change will not hurt or cost too much, so go ahead and so it. But keep a good eye, magnifying glass is good for this, on the rock look for signs of life, sponges, feather dusters, worms, pods, coral etc. If you can see some life worth saving then do the water changes. In my small mind a soft cycle would be done by someone that has purchased uncured rock with an abundance of life on it. I am, I feel like I am repeating myself here, not convinced that your rock is anything more than mostly base rock that does not contain much if any life more than the coralline you can see. But I am not there, I cannot see what you can see.
 

meowzer

Moderator
OK...I will do a w/c tomorrow..test tomorrow night, and go from there....Even if a lot died in the delivery..I know life will come back...It did on a previous shipment anyways....I bought half base, half Live...put in tote for a week and then tank for a month and eventually I got pods and fuzz...LOL...
 

meowzer

Moderator
OK...look at this

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I tried to get a pic of the red fuzzy growth...but all I got was a fuzzy picture

Anyway...I am really not worried about the lack so far of life...I knew there is a chance of quite a bit dying...I have ordered like this 2x before..I did not pay $1,000,000 for overnite air...so I accepted the chance...I still don't think $2 a lb is bad...the rock that I have in my 225g turned out very nice, and that I bought a good part of base at like $.50/lb

It will come to life.....and I could always toss in a chunk of my rubble from the fuge, or a piece that's loose in the tank....I don't think I'll need to though.

 

spanko

Active Member
When we talk of life, let's set the parameters so that we are talking the same thing.
Bacteria life = you do not have to do the water changes to be the nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria to grow. Just throw the rock in and let it rip. You well get some algaes, some crabs and snails, pods that will survive and grow in the tank.Down the road some of the spores in the tank will come out of whatever sleep they are in and you will get to have some sponge etc. etc.
We'll call it other life = hitch hiking macro algae, coral, inverts etc. that you can see on the rock the minute you put it in the water because the rock has been grabbed out of the ocean, put into bags and boxed and shipped airfreight directly to you so the life that was on it in the ocean does not, for the most part, perish in transit. Here is where you pay a premium for the life and here is where a soft cycle helps to keep that life viable. Check out some Tampa Bay Saltwater rock.
To me, you do not appear to have the life that a soft cycle would warrant in my opinion and doing a water change to keep ammonia below .5 may just be a waste of time and money. That is not to say that the rock you have is not nice because it is.
 

meowzer

Moderator
OK..I get it...I do not think I have the hitch hiking micro algae life...LOL...I agree with that.
So I will still test my water...(daily?) but not do the w/c's...I know the hard cycle "report" says no lights or filtering, but I have my fl lights on, and my filter on....I was also planning on putting my new lights on...when they get here...hopefully today
SO should I throw a piece of shrimp in? Fish food? Do nothing...LOL
 

spanko

Active Member
no shrimp or food, you are already getting ammonia from the die-off on the rock (.5 remember). You can run the filter and lights if you want to of course. The lights will just help to grow algae, I prefer lights out during the cycle myself with the rock you have.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3020932
no shrimp or food, you are already getting ammonia from the die-off on the rock (.5 remember). You can run the filter and lights if you want to of course. The lights will just help to grow algae, I prefer lights out during the cycle myself with the rock you have.
OK...I just turned my light off
BUT you do know when my new light comes (today hopefully) I'm gonna have to try it out

Next ?? (LOL) When my skimmer gets here (hopefully today) should I put it on...or wait?
IDK what I would do without this site (err you)...I'd have to go back and read my books again..
You know I set up my 225g by a book...I made some mistakes...cause you can't ask a book questions..and it says what it says
 

spanko

Active Member
Hmmmmmm........let's see how do you use the blocking option again???

I wouldn't run the skimmer yet either.
 

pezenfuego

Active Member
Congratulations, the tank looks great
Do you like the light? Hope the skimmer comes soon. Are you going to order from SWF.com when you're ready?
EDIT: Are you packaging up that kitty to send to me?
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/3021341
Congratulations, the tank looks great
Do you like the light? Hope the skimmer comes soon. Are you going to order from SWF.com when you're ready?
EDIT: Are you packaging up that kitty to send to me?

HAH...You would have to pry my baby from my cold dead hands

I LOVE THE LIGHT...The protein skimmer is here too...Haven't gotten that far
...although...my personal helper has helped me to decide that I am not going to use the skimmer yet

Test results coming up!!!!
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3021356
oh boy we're having fun now!!!!!!!!!!


YOU THINK

OK....ammonia: .5
TRITES: 0
TRATES: 0
salinity is still 1.023 since I have not and am not going to do a w/c

Should I do any other tests at this point?
OH YEAH....here is the skimmer
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I opened it, and put it together to make sure all the pieces were there....since I won't be using it yet, I think I will wait to put it on

 

spanko

Active Member
Eveything is looking good. Test results are good. So you got the skimmer with the bio-media. Are you going to use it that way? Just a question, don't read anything into it..
 
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