What would you like to see improve in America?

fishtaco

fishtaco

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/20#post_3301202
I'd turn California into an internment center, and force all the democrats and liberals into california. Then say, there you go, do whatever you want but leave the rest of the USA alone.
I'm just wondering why it seems so many conservatives want to hunt or round up democrats or liberals stdreb27? Is rounding up those who do not agree with your political dogma standard conservative policy? Sounds like a great America you have planned and someplace I would not want to live. How about after you get all your political enemies into Gullagafornia, you then get all the books that you don't like and pile them there and light them on fire and burn the whole dang place down.
 
My advice to you would be vote Palin, probably the best chance of seeing your better America come true.
 
The two things I would do to improve the country is impose term limits and leave the Constitution alone. Neither is something the people you would elect really seem to have much interest in unless of course it is the 2nd. You know I like you streb27, but you need to work a little more on understanding that just because someone is not a Conservative, it does not automatically makes them less of a American, I pay my taxes, don't have a criminal record, did a tour in the service and am a pain in the butt to nobody, yet because I am not Conservative I am somehow less than you or my opinions are less valid? Give me a break.
 
Fishtaco
 
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301508
 
Gee, I wonder why that is?
 
Exactly what is the definition of the "Perfect Conservative"?
I am the perfect conservative
 
I believe in smaller government
 
Smaller government means it is not big enough to stick it's nose in your bedroom or board room, your doctors office or your bankers office.
 
I believe the constitution means what it says.
 
What part of " The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people" is so damn hard to understand?
 
Government should be a ground up structure. I believe the federal government should be small as possible. This way it is up to state and local governments to add in the extra frills and fluff as they see fit, and we the people are free to locate to a city or state that has tailored government services to our liking.
 
 
bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301510
 
I am the perfect conservative
 
I believe in smaller government
 
Smaller government means it is not big enough to stick it's nose in your bedroom or board room, your doctors office or your bankers office.
 
I believe the constitution means what it says.
 
What part of " The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people" is so damn hard to understand?
 
Government should be a ground up structure. I believe the federal government should be small as possible. This way it is up to state and local governments to add in the extra frills and fluff as they see fit, and we the people are free to locate to a city or state that has tailored government services to our liking.
 
State and City governments are more corrupt than the Federal government has ever been. Why would I want to live in a country where I have to move and live to be in my own "personal perfect little world". I thought this was the UNITED States of America, not the Fifty Independent States of America. So exactly how would that work? 200 million people move to the Ultra Conservative State of Florida? So does that mean that none of my hard-earned money would go to support your preferential state? What if my Perfect State ended up being New York? I'd have to uproot my family, my livelihood, and everything I worked for over the last 30 years to go live in a frozen hell-hole? So does each state also provide their own little militia to maintain order in these independent perfect states? Will I need a passport to go between each state? Because you know an Ultra Conservative State may not want any stinking Liberals passing through or living there. Sounds like you need to move to Europe. That's how they do it over there.
 
 
fishtaco

fishtaco

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Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301510
 
I am the perfect conservative
 
I believe in smaller government
 
Smaller government means it is not big enough to stick it's nose in your bedroom or board room, your doctors office or your bankers office.
 
I believe the constitution means what it says.
 
What part of " The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people" is so damn hard to understand?
 
Government should be a ground up structure. I believe the federal government should be small as possible. This way it is up to state and local governments to add in the extra frills and fluff as they see fit, and we the people are free to locate to a city or state that has tailored government services to our liking.
 
Well I suppose in a perfect world that would be okay, but you would really just let the top 2 percenters in charge of big business run around unchecked and do whatever they want? I could see the country quickly becoming like Europe during the time of the great houses, with a very few wielding a huge amount of power, although the House of Walmart does have a nice ring to it.
 
I would think returning as much power as possible to the individual would be a better option and conservatives should be mature and understanding enough to deal with that when things don't go as they like and the same should be true of the left also. I fear we will see the end of peaceful transfer of power thanks to the extremists in both parties in our lifetime.
 
Fishtaco
 
bionicarm

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The City of San Antonio just enacted a new law that bans all smoking in any restaurant, enclosed area, or drinking establishment. So that small bar owner whose clientele is mostly smokers, can no longer allow them to smoke in his facility. Even if he put a sign on the door that stated "Smoking Allowed In This Facility. Enter At Your own Risk", he still can't allow people to smoke in his establishment. SMALL GOVERNMENT is telling him how to run his business.
 
The Ultra Conservative Southern Baptists living in the Dallas area have for years enacted "Dry Areas" throughout that metropolis. You can't go into a local grocery store and buy beer or wine. If you want a drink at your local TGI Friday's, you have to purchase a "Membership" that allows you to buy drinks while eating. You know where the Drinking DMZ is at in that backwards town, because there's tons of bars and restaurants south of a major intersection. SMALL GOVERNMENT dictates to the population of Dallas where you can exercise your 21st Amendment CONSTITUTIONAL right.
 
Yea, individual state and Local Governments are great.
 
fishtaco

fishtaco

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301519
The City of San Antonio just enacted a new law that bans all smoking in any restaurant, enclosed area, or drinking establishment. So that small bar owner whose clientele is mostly smokers, can no longer allow them to smoke in his facility. Even if he put a sign on the door that stated "Smoking Allowed In This Facility. Enter At Your own Risk", he still can't allow people to smoke in his establishment. SMALL GOVERNMENT is telling him how to run his business.
 
The Ultra Conservative Southern Baptists living in the Dallas area have for years enacted "Dry Areas" throughout that metropolis. You can't go into a local grocery store and buy beer or wine. If you want a drink at your local TGI Friday's, you have to purchase a "Membership" that allows you to buy drinks while eating. You know where the Drinking DMZ is at in that backwards town, because there's tons of bars and restaurants south of a major intersection. SMALL GOVERNMENT dictates to the population of Dallas where you can exercise your 21st Amendment CONSTITUTIONAL right.
 
Yea, individual state and Local Governments are great.

You know your entire content of your post is going to get blamed on liberals in 3....2....1.
 
Fishtaco
 
 
darthtang aw

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local government has gone the direction it has due to a direct correlation as to how the federal government has gone.
 
 
The reason local governments have gone out of control is the population has been keeping their eye on the federal government.
 
Let me give you an example.
 
Name the following.
President of the United states.
Senators for your state.
Representative for the house of your state.
Secretary of state
vice president.
supreme court justices
 
Govenor
Liuetenant govenor.
district representatives at the state level.
county commissioner
attorney general state
mayor
members of the city council
chief of police.
district attorney
 
 
I am willing to bet most people can only name 1-2 people of the second group versus 4-5 of the first.
 
If the federal government would be so expansive and broad in their duties people could keep track of things a lot better on the local level. but as it is, most people can barely keep up on the federal level.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The perfect conservative? Abraham Lincoln, followed closely by Reagan....if the democrats nominated a candidate ;like JFK I would even vote for him....
local judges..
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301508
 
Gee, I wonder why that is?
 
Exactly what is the definition of the "Perfect Conservative"?
Perfect Conservative? I don't know. I don't believe it's the opposite of the perfect liberal.
 
Conservatives generally desire less government but certainly not to the point of anarchy. I believe we don't have very many conservatives in government because the most of the population doesn't have to pay for government so they don't care how big it is. I think it's very short sighted. Raiding the treasury like what's been happening in the past decade is like slaughtering the goose that lays gold eggs just so you can get to the eggs faster. It's not going to work out well in the long term.
 
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301507
I'm just wondering why it seems so many conservatives want to hunt or round up democrats or liberals stdreb27? Is rounding up those who do not agree with your political dogma standard conservative policy? Sounds like a great America you have planned and someplace I would not want to live. How about after you get all your political enemies into Gullagafornia, you then get all the books that you don't like and pile them there and light them on fire and burn the whole dang place down.
 
My advice to you would be vote Palin, probably the best chance of seeing your better America come true.
 
The two things I would do to improve the country is impose term limits and leave the Constitution alone. Neither is something the people you would elect really seem to have much interest in unless of course it is the 2nd. You know I like you streb27, but you need to work a little more on understanding that just because someone is not a Conservative, it does not automatically makes them less of a American, I pay my taxes, don't have a criminal record, did a tour in the service and am a pain in the butt to nobody, yet because I am not Conservative I am somehow less than you or my opinions are less valid? Give me a break.
 
Fishtaco
 
Fishtaco,
 
It was a joke. Humor, broma.
 
And no burning books, I prefer the Jewish way to keep history from repeating itself. (ever been to a holocaust museum) Besides, we'd need those books for profiling purposes...
 
 
Ruben
 
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301527
 
Fishtaco,
 
It was a joke. Humor, broma.
 
And no burning books, I prefer the Jewish way to keep history from repeating itself. (ever been to a holocaust museum) Besides, we'd need those books for profiling purposes...
 
 
Ruben
 
Not to mention we will use the really thick books for our torture camps.....ever hit someone with a telephone book before? Doesnt leave that big of a mark externally, but internal damage is huge and painful.
 
 
ironeagle2006

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I pefer the FMCSA REgulations that all drivers must carry with them. The one carriers issue is condesened in size to be small enough that it will fit in a door pocket. However it still weighs 2 lbs. Now shove that in a Sock or something and man you have one heck of a Club in a Pinch. Either that or I always had a 6 Cell Mag lite in my truck cab. Here in my town we have a Huge issue with the Building Code Enforcement Oficers. If your a Buddy of theirs You can do what the Heck you want. Not a Buddy aka Not a Union Member they will fine you for ANYTHING they can find. The city recently was sued for citing a person for having a carport 2 inchs 2 close to the street. However the zneighbor a City Union Employee had weeds 1 foot high in direct violation of the City codes he was Never Cited. That is why the City was sued and LOST.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301512
 
State and City governments are more corrupt than the Federal government has ever been. Why would I want to live in a country where I have to move and live to be in my own "personal perfect little world". I thought this was the UNITED States of America, not the Fifty Independent States of America. So exactly how would that work? 200 million people move to the Ultra Conservative State of Florida? So does that mean that none of my hard-earned money would go to support your preferential state? What if my Perfect State ended up being New York? I'd have to uproot my family, my livelihood, and everything I worked for over the last 30 years to go live in a frozen hell-hole? So does each state also provide their own little militia to maintain order in these independent perfect states? Will I need a passport to go between each state? Because you know an Ultra Conservative State may not want any stinking Liberals passing through or living there. Sounds like you need to move to Europe. That's how they do it over there.
 
Local government more corrupt that fed? You must live in an area full of morons. It's a lot easier to dump local politicians.
 
Utah is probably the most conservative state I know of. It isn't a whole lot different than any other state I've been in. The whole notion of a Federalist system was to have individual states forming a nation where the national government provided for the common defense, coining and regulation of interstate commerce among the states. Not to set up a wealth redistribution system.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301513
Well I suppose in a perfect world that would be okay, but you would really just let the top 2 percenters in charge of big business run around unchecked and do whatever they want? I could see the country quickly becoming like Europe during the time of the great houses, with a very few wielding a huge amount of power, although the House of Walmart does have a nice ring to it.
 
I would think returning as much power as possible to the individual would be a better option and conservatives should be mature and understanding enough to deal with that when things don't go as they like and the same should be true of the left also. I fear we will see the end of peaceful transfer of power thanks to the extremists in both parties in our lifetime.
 
Fishtaco
Sensible regulations on business doesn't require the government sticking there nose into the internal operations of companies. As long as a business pays their taxes, follows labor and environmental laws it's really nobody's business what else they do.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301523
local government has gone the direction it has due to a direct correlation as to how the federal government has gone.
 
 
The reason local governments have gone out of control is the population has been keeping their eye on the federal government.
 
Let me give you an example.
 
Name the following.
President of the United states.
Senators for your state.
Representative for the house of your state.
Secretary of state
vice president.
supreme court justices
 
Govenor
Liuetenant govenor.
district representatives at the state level.
county commissioner
attorney general state
mayor
members of the city council
chief of police.
district attorney
 
 
I am willing to bet most people can only name 1-2 people of the second group versus 4-5 of the first.
 
If the federal government would be so expansive and broad in their duties people could keep track of things a lot better on the local level. but as it is, most people can barely keep up on the federal level.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The perfect conservative? Abraham Lincoln, followed closely by Reagan....if the democrats nominated a candidate ;like JFK I would even vote for him....
local judges..
Actually, I know 60% of those individuals at the Federal, State, and local level. Do a majority of Americans know that information? Of course not. That's because of today's technology, and the influence the media has on the voting public. If you tell someone enough times that Obama is the evil stepson of Satan, they'll actually start believing it's true. People don't research a candiadtes platforms and political history. They let the media tell them who the person that's most qualified for the position, then blindly follow one another like lemmings walking off a cliff, and push the 'vote' button on the machine based on that information. You have lifetime politicians sitting out there at all levels of government simply because of their surname. Ciro Rodriguez is the most useless representative Texas has at the Federal level, but he gets elected term after term because of the majority Hispanic population in his district. Same thing happened with Henry B. Gonzalez before he died. Fortunately for san Antonio, we implemented term limits for our City Council and Mayor. I just wish they'd do it at the state level so we could get rid of those useless crook Rick Perry (Texas Governor)
 
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonZim http:///forum/thread/379657/what-would-you-like-to-see-improve-in-america/40#post_3301533
Frozen hell hole? Have you ever actually been to NY? We have 4 seasons, just like about 75% of this country.
We only have two seasons in Texas, and the cold season only lasts about 3 months, if that. And yea, unless you live in upper New York where you actually have grass and land you can live on, the rest of that state could be nuked and I wouldn't miss it.
 
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