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At least 8'x3'.

Yeah, its usually coming out of MY mouth....jerk.

Go big or go home.:D

I ran them for 2 years in my 125 and never had to touch them. Of course, my flow rate was through the roof so turnover wasnt a problem.

Set em and forget em. You dont need to do anything to them.

Glad it worked out for you.

Im going to call upon the infinite wisdom of Mattiej on this one. If you really want to keep sharks, decide through active research which one you want to keep, then build the system around the animal- not the other way around. Just a thought.

Sorry, all my stuff is down now and in storage. I didnt take any pics when it was running. I was too busy using memory for the inhabitants!!!:D Tony is a good man, he will help you out.

Yeah, I was still interested in a 10x5 or 10x4 to replace the 980. A buddy just bought a 8x3, and all I have now is my 55! I feeling a little "ill equipped" so to speak.:D

What are you talking about? A 45 with a 72x24x24? Remember, Im on your side trying to talk him out of it also. I understand that water volume and footprint are important. Youre preaching to the choir. Ive been involved with these animals for close to 8 years. Ive bred rays and sharks...

Ouch. Actually, my dragon just chomped down my coral beauty.

I would run a small wet/dry on there to keep up for rock die-off and when the fish grow. At least a couple of large canister filters. The list seems really good though. Cincy- Youre alive!:D

I think you need to go to the LFS and measure a standard 150, 125 and 180. The difference between a 125 and 180 is only 6 inches of width, while the changes between a 150 and 180 are much different. Its not the volume of water with these animals, its the footprint of the tank. Height is...

They spend a fair amount of time on the bottom. I agree that a 220 is too small for them however.

If you touched them, nothing. If they stung you thats a different story. I held my rays all the time with no issues. I also used to hand feed my lion.

What is the width of the proposed tank? Id limit it to one ray.

Looks like a baby.

She not in anything anymore!!! I had to get rid of her, her brother, the pair of rays and the lion when my tank sprung a leak. She was in a 125 with a roomy 980 waiting for her.

On average they stay around 2-3'. Something larger down the road will be very beneficial.

Not with my luck!!!