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That's a whole load of pork that shouldn't have been spent... That being said, there is one thing they all have in common....paying people to do something, aka work, aka creating jobs... If the trickle down effect really works, it should "create" a lot of money.

I'm not sure what you are talking about it not being available, I've had both regular and H1N1 shots for several weeks already. I got the H1N1 b/c of my 2 month old daughter. Clinics around here are having long lines forming to get their shots.

Originally Posted by oscardeuce supply and demand does not work that way. Low supply low demand equal lower prices. That is not the only way to decrease price, increased supply also leads to lower prices considering a constant demand, which in this case exist, demand=entire population...

Originally Posted by oscardeuce You won't hear this on the news. 20,000 Americans ill, 1000 dead. The gov' had 5 months to prepare. Where are the immunizations, where is FEMA. What did they do for 5 months? Why has it taken Obama so long to react. They knew the pattern in the spring. The knew...

Originally Posted by stdreb27 The reason capitalism worked, is that it tried to correct the problem. Fanny and freddy wouldn't exist today had it not been for outside moneys in the form of subsidies coming into rescue it. Had capitalism been allowed to run its course. Those government...

Originally Posted by stdreb27 This is where you're missing the boat. Capitalism didn't cause the recession, government intervention, and bad legislation caused this recession. Capitalism worked. It found a flaw in the system, someone (fanny and freddy) owned a whole bunch of bad loans...

Originally Posted by reefraff Hopefully the Dems who are opposed to a socialist health care system will hold their ground and force more changes. I'm pretty confident that Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) will not vote for anything that includes a public option, or that any of the dems just try to "bully"...

what do you think?

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"China’s exchange rate regime can be blamed for exacerbating global imbalances which have undermined the value of the dollar. It is ironic then that China, along with other creditor nations, now has an interest in supporting the value of the dollar in order to avoid a sharp depreciation in the...

You know, drilling at home has been brought a couple times in this thread, and sometimes I think we are purposely not drilling so that when the middle east runs out of oil, we rule the world....lol.... or just a bunch of tree huggers keep getting in the way...

Originally Posted by stdreb27 On the flip side to a devaluing dollar. It makes our exported goods cheaper, helping domestic manufacturing. Likewise foreign investments in US (other than our buying our debt) You're trying to push the cart with the horse again. A trade deficit is going to have...

True, or measuring downward mobility and overall numbers within the brackets. Or if there were a way to quantify standard of living.

Originally Posted by stdreb27 lol considering the very definition of Middle class would be middle, and if they went up, you'd be going to the upper class. I'd really like to see a study... I'm not sure why that is funny. Isn't the whole idea of Capitalism that everyone ends up doing better...

Originally Posted by stdreb27 Quite frankly, until this recent upturn I'd ask where are the job losses? During the "height" of outsourcing of the 90's and early 00's. We had record low unemployment rates... Yes, people did have jobs, but they were not good paying jobs, they were low paying...

Originally Posted by zman1 They have been exported to foreign soil, too. Heck, they have been brought to our country via H1Visas- Cheap labor doctrine - Wakeup. The only jobs that can't be exported by business are service related (includes may I take your order) - You don't Export JOBS, you...

If it is good quality and cheap, it is good for us though. IMO, the problem is not that we are losing manual labor jobs, the problem is we have become too lazy as a whole. Kids don't pay attention in school, and the teachers can't force them to pay attention b/c of stupid laws, and the...

I'm not saying that, I was just pointing out where people would argue Jack in the Box and Health Insurance companies are completely different. The difference with food though, is that you can go out and grow/kill your own. Not likely to happen in this urbanized society, but possible.

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW And of course the avergae american and all liberals will eat it up as well. Never realizing the "evil" insurance companies currently only experience a 2.2% profit margin. They are really raping us with their rates. Jack in the box experiences a higher profit...

Originally Posted by reefraff By the way, which party tried to increase regulation on Fanny May and Freddie Mac and which party provided to opposition to said regulation? But how many people realize this? Not that many, so the perception remains. I think more than ever, we need a couple...