415 Gallon Plywood Tank Build

2quills

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Man, I wish I had a shop like Norm Abrahms...that guy is good.
The molding looks real nice, Shawn. I'm glad you decided to ditch the bottom piece...it just seemed like a little too much, makes a big difference with out it. I'll be interested to see what you come up with on how you plan to attach the corner. I origionally thought you were looking for a way to attach the molding and then everything else could be removable with the pins.
It looks like you've already got it put together, I was going to suggest if you could just make the actual molding pieces detacheable with magnets or some kind of push in fasteners or what have ya...then you could just secure the corner with screws and then the molding could cover the screws.
 

acrylic51

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Ahhhh, but you are following closely..... The molding will be attached to the ledge or bar top rail that runs in front of the tank... There is actually more trim work to be done to that piece. I want it removeable so when time comes to out the tank up into place the stand won't get banged up.... Plu my back with the rods and screw in, limit my lifting quite a bit.
Haven't totally decided how it will all attach, but welcome everyone input!!!! So let's everyone throw some ideas around!!!!!
 

acrylic51

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Wasn't a very productive week, but hopefully with the new shift change, I can adjust and get more done.....Did alittle more trim work. Got most of it done, and moving along rather well, did run into a few issues, but were easily corrected. Considering putting a trim beveled piece in the corner caps, but not sure....Will have to mock it up and post a pic of it mocked up to give an idea. The trim piece would be exactly the same as the door inserts, but would be in the open area of the corner caps....
Still have to start fabbing the top/ledge area of the stand.....That shouldn't be to complicated though. I was super worried about attaching the corner post that sits out in the open in the viewing area, and once it place there is very little movement, and sits right into place, but will still figure out the attaching method here shortly....
Here's a few pics of the most recent work on the stand......




 

acrylic51

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Started fabbing up the canopy portion. I'm going to have to make a few calls in the morning for some gas dual damper shocks. Even though I have full access to the tank from behind I would never do an inwall without some type of access from the front. The biggest reasoning is during aquascaping.....
I'm looking at the dual damping shocks to control the speed of the door/lid opening and closing as well.....Here is a link of the shocks/dampers I'm looking at using to control the lid.
http://www.spdhardware.com/catalog/list.asp?id={BD2B3595-42B0-456C-B3FC-1AE2F61FCB0A}
One issue I will have to resolve as you'll see in the pic is when I installed the home theater speaker(1 of my rear channels) I hadn't fully thought out the canopy design for the tank. Well needless to say I will probably remove the speaker and route out an access for the speaker to sit into, or would love to hear other ideas as far as working around the already in place speaker.....Any ideas?????????? Really hate to pull it out, but if someone could give me a good idea wouldn't have too......Ideas guys/gals???????


 

acrylic51

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Ahhhh and what you guys have been waiting for......Alittle slow on getting the epoxy, but it's time consuming, but paying off and rather pleased with the outcome so far....I had talked about using biaxial fiberglass cloth, and I have started laying and wetting out the fiberglass cloth.....Needless to say I ran out of epoxy, and the boat/outdoor shop is closed on Mondays, so.......
Also got the outer skin on the tank that hides the angle iron embedded into epoxy....As I had said before anyone that hasn't seen the construction would have no idea it was ever there...Got alittle sloppy at some spots, but not a big deal.....Just means a little cleanup/extra prep work before the tank is ready to accept stain and finish coat.....
Here's a few pics to hold you over.....When I do get back to pouring the epoxy; I'm going to have to roughen it up before I start pouring, so as to get a good/strong bond between layers.....




 

acrylic51

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I'll have to take some pics of how I reinforced the back of the tank and have to show a pic of thickened epoxy that I use when putting on the external panels.....
Still want to hear opinons/suggestions on how to go about tackling the speaker issue on the canopy....Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!
 

2quills

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Man, that looks good. Will have to come back a little later to read up when I have more time. Good stuff!
 

2quills

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Ahh...changing shifts eh...going to the 1'st or 2'nd?
I really like that poplar wood, has some nice variations in it...reminds me of cedar. Hopefully you're going with a lighter stain to keep some of that grain visible? I'm a fan of darkwood myself, but if I were using poplar I think I would have to go with a lighter color for sure.
Nice idea going with the shocks in order to have access on both sides. Might also come in handy if you ever have to tag team wrangle a fish lol.
The epoxy looks great. Those 45's have almost dissapeared from what I can see in the photo. How many coats are you going to do total?
If it were me I would leave the speaker, route out the the panel and either make or purchase some type of grill out of wood that you can stain. Here's a couple pics to get the thoughts flowing. Most of these are A/C returns...but I think you'll get the idea...

 

acrylic51

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Yeah a shift change.....I've been with Big Brown for quite a while, and this is probably the closest I'll get to daylight....I guess if you call 11:00am - 7:30pm daylight......After 12yrs in the Army I made myself a promise that I'd never live my life by an alarm clock....Well!!!!! Here we go with the alarm clock again

As far as stain I haven't really started looking. One reason I chose to go with poplar is price and also the looks....The Poplar is easier to finish, over Oak and other opened grained woods, and cheaper than Mahogany and some others....I have been a traditional light finish person, but grew tired of it till my last setup I built for a customer.....Then when I built my last setup the 240, I was still hooked on the setup I had did before, and I did mine in a dark finish and fell in love with it.....Everything in the family room is of a lighter finish, so to kind of tie things together I should be leaning that way, but I'm still drawn to a dark finish.......I'll have to post a pic of my last stand build for the color and finish.
I was thinking about for the final finish on the stand was to use a bar top epoxy finish over the traditional poly finish. Epoxy bar top finish would definitely hold up alot better and alot easier to wipe down from water drips, but I think the super high gloss would be way overkill. What do you guys think? Again still looking for some ideas and tips from everyone.....Everyone seems so tight lipped these days!!!!!!!

As far as the shocks....didn't get to make the call today and it was my off day, and tomorrow I have no time, so we'll see if I can get it done before work Wednesday. Pricing isn't to bad on the shocks. I think they are $15.00 a piece. I could always use friction/adjustable ball clasps, which are cheaper and can pick up local, but like I said I'm trying to push the envelope on the build. Alittle more than the last.
As far as the speaker issue; I like what you've come up with....I'll have to get some measurement on the Polk speakers and see if I can find some type of grilling that size. I had thought about fabbing the panel around the speaker and covering it with like speaker grill material, but didn't like the idea and trying to make it less obvious that it's there....I love the speaker there especially on Race Day......I'm pretty sure I could fab something up like your suggesting just have to sit down and really think about it.
Yes, the 45's are disappearing, and they blend in and aren't noticeable when they have even coats of epoxy on them.....When I poured the initial coats before adding the fiberglass you would over look them. I have to rough up the fiberglass before the epoxy work continues, but that isn't major, and what is next is build the epoxy up to completely cover or embed the fiberglass cloth in epoxy. I figure I'll need roughly another 3 gallons of epoxy and equal amount of hardner as well. I should have mentioned 2Quills (Corey) just for a gallon of West epoxy and quart of slow hardner it's $140.00 plus tax. A gallon doesn't go super far especially when wetting out biaxial cloth 37oz cloth.....I'm looking to have roughly 3/16" thickness, maybe a tad more. I figure once I feel I'm close I will drill my bulkheads in the bottom and back of the tank, and take thickness measurements, and if needed I can build dams/molds to plug the bulkhead holes and continue the pour job.
I'm still working on the canopy, and I'm curious and would really like the feedback from everyone.....I get alot of looks; but no suggestions....As you can see in the previous pics of the stand how the corner caps and molding is; what I'm considering is trimming the canopy out with the same corner caps as the stand. Basically where the corner caps are they would be in direct alignment on the canopy. What do you guys think?
Ok enough rambling need some feed back to a couple questions????
1. Suggestion on finish colors?
2. Suggestions as how to handle the speaker issue on the side of the canopy?
3. Suggestions on how to finish off the canopy? Should I finish the canopy with the same corner caps?
Come on guys need your feedback and insight......
 

meowzer

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YIKES.....finish.....LOL...I hate decorating.....BUT I kinda like the medium oak look myself....
thsi is why I buy stuff built LOL
 

acrylic51

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I know what you mean about hard to decided.....I have such wide tastes....Here's a couple....I really like the white washed look of the 3rd stand......


 

acrylic51

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Yes that's my 240.... That's what I mean trying to find that happy medium between dark and just right.... That finish you probably could shave with. It was hand rubbed.... That's why things take me forever!!!!!
What does everyone else think? Any good pics as well!!!!!
 

2quills

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I would think something in a walnut stain you could find to be not too dark and not too light. Have you ever used the gel stains before?
 

acrylic51

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Thanks!!!!! The 3rd pic of the tank isn't actually mine....It's a pic I copied since I actually like the finish...I PM'd the guy asking what finish he used, but haven't gotten a reply in months!!!!!!!
Yes Corey I have used Gel stains in the past and to be honest, definitely not a big fan of it.....For certain projects they are fine, but I've used Gel on other stand/canopy jobs, and just not the same even with the same tedious prep work I put into these projects......This I want to be my pinnacle from top to bottom!!!!!

I usually run into a problem trying to find that perfect blend between to brown; to red.......I've thought about getting some stuff from WoodCraft and try blending my own, to get the perfect tint......I thought about using the Bar Coat over the entire skin of the stand, but might be alittle to glossy.....
 

2quills

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Actually there are some really sharp stains out there...I was looking at kitchen cabinet finishes and seen some darker ones that had a redish look to them...kind of like a wine color that looked really beautiful. I may go with something like that myself...I'm so undecided.
Yeah I've never used the gel before, so was just curious. I'll probably stick with traditional then. I do like a nice gloss finish, but I don't know about that much gloss, personally.
 
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