acrylic51
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415 Gallon Plywood Tank Build
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meowzer
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1320#post_3452156
Gee wiz, man. I hope you didn't catch a bit of that Meowzer curse that's been running around here.
HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lol
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1320#post_3452156
Gee wiz, man. I hope you didn't catch a bit of that Meowzer curse that's been running around here.
HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lol
2quills
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452157
HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lol
I kid, I kid!
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452157
HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lol
I kid, I kid!
acrylic51
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I'm hoping I didn't catch the curse.....I am a little beside myself at this point.....but this is the exact reason for all the water tests and such to weed out possible issue that might arise. Better I caught the leak now, than be pumping saltwater to the tank and see it. The leak wasn't gushing, but enough drip for me to know and realize that it would have been weeks before it would have to be replaced anyways, so why not get ahead of the game.....
Anyways here's a quick teaser with the MP60's. Only 2 are being run right now on the test. I actually did have all 3 running, but considering doing some small; minor modifications to the stand/canopy and trim work to relocate the 3rd MP60 for better flow......The flow is excellent where I originally placed it, but playing around late last night, a buddy was over and we got curious and moved it about 3" over, and the difference was astronomical!!!!!!
Anyways here's a quick teaser with the MP60's. Only 2 are being run right now on the test. I actually did have all 3 running, but considering doing some small; minor modifications to the stand/canopy and trim work to relocate the 3rd MP60 for better flow......The flow is excellent where I originally placed it, but playing around late last night, a buddy was over and we got curious and moved it about 3" over, and the difference was astronomical!!!!!!
acrylic51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1320#post_3452156
Gee wiz, man. I hope you didn't catch a bit of that Meowzer curse that's been running around here.
acrylic51
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Ok.....Little update.....Got the pumps swapped out last night, and good news the Reeflo Dart Gold pump didn't leak......I thought I was home free.......
I again flooded the volute of the pump and no leakage, and then decided it was time to flip the switch.....Hit the switch on the wall, and water was flowing....Doing my walk around inspection (on hands and knees) I found the union was leaking off the output of the pump. Wasn't a super bad leak, but it would have been annoying as heck, so decided to pull the union apart and and double check I didn't kink or damage the O ring or anything. I found nothing out of place and kept taking it apart and together. I probably pulled the thing apart 10X last night, and figured I'd cut it out and replace the union all together.
Ran out to Lowes first thing this morning and got replacement union, and was talking to Corey on the phone, about possible issues with the union, and both were wondering; pondering what was up.....Hung up with Corey and grabbed the saw and began cutting just above the union (using it as a straight edge guide) when to my amazement after making the cut 1/2 way through the pipe, and "plop" the damn fitting of the union and collar just drop to the stand......I immediately called Corey back!!!!!!!
Can anyone figure what was wrong......
Ran out to Lowes first thing this morning and got replacement union, and was talking to Corey on the phone, about possible issues with the union, and both were wondering; pondering what was up.....Hung up with Corey and grabbed the saw and began cutting just above the union (using it as a straight edge guide) when to my amazement after making the cut 1/2 way through the pipe, and "plop" the damn fitting of the union and collar just drop to the stand......I immediately called Corey back!!!!!!!
Can anyone figure what was wrong......
acrylic51
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Well!!!!! Since Meowzer didn't want to take a gamble and guess.....The initial problem was that I never glue the bottom half of the union.....So basically when I fired and pressurized the plumbing I was getting a drip from the union.....Goes to show you that you can't over look any details in the game......
acrylic51
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Curious about you guys running the Vortech pumps.....How are you guys mounting your controllers and such.....Anyone splurge on the battery backups as well......
I've been looking around trying to get some ideas.....I don't want or don't like the idea of having my equipment strung out all over the place or just thrown or tacked in the stand.....Looking for pics or ideas as to what you guys have done. I have seen a couple that stand out
I've been looking around trying to get some ideas.....I don't want or don't like the idea of having my equipment strung out all over the place or just thrown or tacked in the stand.....Looking for pics or ideas as to what you guys have done. I have seen a couple that stand out
acrylic51
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452766
NOOO....Just goes to show you that you are human afterall
YAYYY
How I over looked that 1 piece still baffles my mind.....It didn't help the original return pump was leaking water without even firing it up , and I was talking to Corey on the phone, and told him about the leak and I snugged and snugged and still no better, so we hung up and not more than 30 seconds into cutting the piece out it mysteriously dropped to the floor, and I was like you s*n of a b****......I called Corey back and told him what I had found....
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452766
NOOO....Just goes to show you that you are human afterall
YAYYY
al&burke
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You know what I always wanted to try to find is single plugs, I know for what, but I just think it looks neater than power bars, I would like to make a custom strip with single plugs space them so you can put a timer on them, or better yet find a plug with a built in timer. You ever see something like that Shawn.
2quills
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Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452797
You know what I always wanted to try to find is single plugs, I know for what, but I just think it looks neater than power bars, I would like to make a custom strip with single plugs space them so you can put a timer on them, or better yet find a plug with a built in timer. You ever see something like that Shawn.
I think it's coralife that sells the power strip with the built in digital timer.
They don't sell single plugs up there in your neck of the woods, Al?
I plan on using a handful of these built into my stand. My idea is to run all of the pumps, heater or any kind of equipment that is in contact with water on its own individual gfci. If you wire them individually off of the same power feed than they won't trip off the whole circuit, just that specific receptacle will trip. This way if a piece of equipment malfunctions then just that piece will trip out. Everything else stays on.
Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452797
You know what I always wanted to try to find is single plugs, I know for what, but I just think it looks neater than power bars, I would like to make a custom strip with single plugs space them so you can put a timer on them, or better yet find a plug with a built in timer. You ever see something like that Shawn.
I think it's coralife that sells the power strip with the built in digital timer.
They don't sell single plugs up there in your neck of the woods, Al?
I plan on using a handful of these built into my stand. My idea is to run all of the pumps, heater or any kind of equipment that is in contact with water on its own individual gfci. If you wire them individually off of the same power feed than they won't trip off the whole circuit, just that specific receptacle will trip. This way if a piece of equipment malfunctions then just that piece will trip out. Everything else stays on.
acrylic51
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452799
Have you looked at Squids?
Interesting Bang never seen anything like that before.....
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452919
I think it's coralife that sells the power strip with the built in digital timer.
They don't sell single plugs up there in your neck of the woods, Al?
I plan on using a handful of these built into my stand. My idea is to run all of the pumps, heater or any kind of equipment that is in contact with water on its own individual gfci. If you wire them individually off of the same power feed than they won't trip off the whole circuit, just that specific receptacle will trip. This way if a piece of equipment malfunctions then just that piece will trip out. Everything else stays on.
Guys I know we had talked about this earlier on in the thread, but Corey are you referring to bringing power into a junction box, and then bringing individual feed lines to each individual GFCI....... I like the concept of GFCI's, but my problem lies in I want everything controlled through a controller.......Would it be possible to run individual lines from the controller bus (energy bar) to the individual GFCI's.....Starting to think that would be a lot of clutter of wiring underneath the stand.....Maybe not, your only talking a pump and heater......to a degree.
Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452799
Have you looked at Squids?
Interesting Bang never seen anything like that before.....
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452919
I think it's coralife that sells the power strip with the built in digital timer.
They don't sell single plugs up there in your neck of the woods, Al?
I plan on using a handful of these built into my stand. My idea is to run all of the pumps, heater or any kind of equipment that is in contact with water on its own individual gfci. If you wire them individually off of the same power feed than they won't trip off the whole circuit, just that specific receptacle will trip. This way if a piece of equipment malfunctions then just that piece will trip out. Everything else stays on.
Guys I know we had talked about this earlier on in the thread, but Corey are you referring to bringing power into a junction box, and then bringing individual feed lines to each individual GFCI....... I like the concept of GFCI's, but my problem lies in I want everything controlled through a controller.......Would it be possible to run individual lines from the controller bus (energy bar) to the individual GFCI's.....Starting to think that would be a lot of clutter of wiring underneath the stand.....Maybe not, your only talking a pump and heater......to a degree.
2quills
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452927
Interesting Bang never seen anything like that before.....
Guys I know we had talked about this earlier on in the thread, but Corey are you referring to bringing power into a junction box, and then bringing individual feed lines to each individual GFCI....... I like the concept of GFCI's, but my problem lies in I want everything controlled through a controller.......Would it be possible to run individual lines from the controller bus (energy bar) to the individual GFCI's.....Starting to think that would be a lot of clutter of wiring underneath the stand.....Maybe not, your only talking a pump and heater......to a degree.
Well in my situation it's a little bit different because I added four triple gang boxes into the stand itself. And I'm talking about wiring them like this...
I think it would be possible to run gfci's the way you're talking about. But I'm not farmiliar with those energy bars that they use so I would have to see inside of them to see how to go about it. If you got creative enough it could probably be done cleanly.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452927
Interesting Bang never seen anything like that before.....
Guys I know we had talked about this earlier on in the thread, but Corey are you referring to bringing power into a junction box, and then bringing individual feed lines to each individual GFCI....... I like the concept of GFCI's, but my problem lies in I want everything controlled through a controller.......Would it be possible to run individual lines from the controller bus (energy bar) to the individual GFCI's.....Starting to think that would be a lot of clutter of wiring underneath the stand.....Maybe not, your only talking a pump and heater......to a degree.
Well in my situation it's a little bit different because I added four triple gang boxes into the stand itself. And I'm talking about wiring them like this...
I think it would be possible to run gfci's the way you're talking about. But I'm not farmiliar with those energy bars that they use so I would have to see inside of them to see how to go about it. If you got creative enough it could probably be done cleanly.
acrylic51
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Pretty simple layout Corey.....When I mentioned energy bars I was referring to the power bus bars that Neptune uses on the Apex. All controllers have a outlet box that the equipment plugs into, that can be controlled from the head unit....That is where I question how can things be on a separate GFCI's.......The only way around that is putting the controller itself on a GFCI, but that defeats the whole purpose if 1 piece goes south the others are affected.
2quills
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452943
Pretty simple layout Corey.....When I mentioned energy bars I was referring to the power bus bars that Neptune uses on the Apex. All controllers have a outlet box that the equipment plugs into, that can be controlled from the head unit....That is where I question how can things be on a separate GFCI's.......The only way around that is putting the controller itself on a GFCI, but that defeats the whole purpose if 1 piece goes south the others are affected.
Yep, if you can tap into those individual channels on the power strip it could be done. You wire up your gfci's off the the power strip itself by taping either the contacts on the plug ins or taping into the buses. Another option would be to simply take some power cords with just the male ends...plug them into the power strip and wire them direct to some gfci's.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1340#post_3452943
Pretty simple layout Corey.....When I mentioned energy bars I was referring to the power bus bars that Neptune uses on the Apex. All controllers have a outlet box that the equipment plugs into, that can be controlled from the head unit....That is where I question how can things be on a separate GFCI's.......The only way around that is putting the controller itself on a GFCI, but that defeats the whole purpose if 1 piece goes south the others are affected.
Yep, if you can tap into those individual channels on the power strip it could be done. You wire up your gfci's off the the power strip itself by taping either the contacts on the plug ins or taping into the buses. Another option would be to simply take some power cords with just the male ends...plug them into the power strip and wire them direct to some gfci's.