415 Gallon Plywood Tank Build

acrylic51

acrylic51

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Trying to decide between these 2 exhaust fans for the fish room......Need help and input......

11-3/8"L x 10-1/2"W x 7-5/8"H 140 CFM White Bath Fan

  • 140 CFM, 2.0 sones, UL Listed, HVI-2100 certified

  • 100 watt incandescent lighting and 4 watt nightlight (bulb sold separately)
    Ceiling mounted only UL Listed for use over tub/shower when connected to GFCI protected branch circuit
    Includes unique spacer (patent pending) for mounting to engineered "I" joists


Product Description

From the Manufacturer
Panasonic WhisperLine fans are designed for multiple-task ventilation. This means that you can ventilate multiple areas or multiple rooms with just one fan. For example, you can place inlets over the shower, tub, toilet and/or vanity in a single bathroom and still use just one fan. In recent years, homes have become more airtight and energy efficient. While this lowers the cost to heat and air-condition a home, it also retains pollutants that can be hazardous to its occupants. One way to improve the air quality of the home is through whole-house ventilation with a Panasonic WhisperLine fan which removes stale air and provides fresh air on a slow, continuous basis. The Panasonic FV-20NLF1 WhisperLine 240 CFM In-Line Fan has a totally enclosed condenser motor and a large, double suction blower wheel to quietly move air. The blower wheel is designed to draw air in from both sides allowing more area for the air to enter the wheel. Panasonic fans are quiet enough that you might not even know they're on. This fan is designed to give you continuous, trouble-free operation for many years due to its high-quality components and permanently lubricated motors which wear at a slower pace. We designed the electrical configuration of this model's condenser motor to allow it to operate at lower temperatures, increasing the life of the motor and bearings. The fan housing is made of heavy-gauge zinc galvanized steel and painted to protect it from rust. This in-line fan fits a 6-Inch duct and can be installed in five different positions and joist, truss and suspension brackets are included to help make your installation as easy as possible. With a 1.4 sone level and rated 240 cubic feet per minute, this fan is Energy Star qualified. The Panasonic FV-20NLF1 WhisperLine 240 CFM In-Line Fan is covered by a manufacturer warranty for period of three years from the date of the original purchase and is sold one item per package.

Product Description
FV-20NLF1 WhisperLine™ 240 CFM In-Line Fan Ventilate Multiple Areas with Just One FanPanasonic WhisperLine™ fans are designed for multiple-task ventilation. This means that you can ventilate multiple areas or multiple rooms with just one fan. For example, you can place inlets over the shower, tub, toilet and/or vanity in a single bathroom and still use just one fan. In recent years, homes have become more airtight and energy efficient. While this lowers the cost to heat and air-condition a home, it also retains pollutants that can be hazardous to its occupants. One way to improve the air qu
 
acrylic51

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Description
The NuTone Ultra Silent 130 CFM Bath Fan features a quiet motor design intended to operate at just 1.5 sones, as well as galvanized steel housing material. This fan is UL Listed and HVI certified, and is compliant with Energy Star standards to help maximize energy efficiency. Use it in bathrooms up to 115 sq. ft. in size.
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Ceiling-mounted exhaust bath fan
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130 CFM for great performance
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Quiet motor is designed to operate at 1.5 sones
For use in rooms of up to 115 sq. ft.
Galvanized steel housing frame
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UL Listed and HVI Certified
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Energy star compliant, for energy efficient operation
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4 in. duct
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MFG Brand Name : NuTone
MFG Model # : QTN130E
MFG Part # : QTN130E

Specifications
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Assembled Depth (in.) : 10.5 in
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Assembled Height (in.) : 7.625 in
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Assembled Width (in.) : 11.325 in
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CSA Listed : No
Ceiling or Wall Installation : Ceiling
Color Family : Whites
Color/Finish : White
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Decorative : No
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ETL Listed : No
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Energy Star Compliant : Yes
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Fan Air Volume (CFM) : 121 to 200
Fan Sound Level (Sones) : 1 to 1.9
Grille material : Specialty
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acrylic51

acrylic51

Active Member
Been lazy lately, work picking up.....Did get out in the garage and start messing with cutting the aluminum on the router table, and after a couple passes I'm fairly confident, that I won't be using an outside source to machine the heat sinks down.....As far as anodizing; with discussion with Corey and Al in all honesty no real significant gain vs the cost of having the heat sinks anodized.....
As far as the test runs, the aluminum I have on hand is roughly 1/4" thick, and running it on the router table it didn't cut much differently than running wood through the router....Of course I did make small passes on the piece, but there was no chatter or grabbing of the material.....I think a lot has to do with the depth of cut, and speed.....I had read varying tips as far as piece speed and such, but in all honesty letting the router run wide open and shallow cuts works just fine on aluminum. The only thing I'll probably do a little different when I actually get my hands on the good heat sinks, is lube the router table....I've been shooting so much spray paint lately and I'm pretty sure the table was a bit tacky which might have affected my feed rate, but even with that the finish results were rather impressive for a little playing around.....
 
2quills

2quills

Well-Known Member
If you got through 1/4" just fine you certainly shouldnt have any trouble cutting through the fins on the sinks. Good to hear that theres a much less expensive way to do these things.
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

Active Member
Sorry Josh didn't take any pics was just crude testing. Your right Corey!!!! I was taking very shallow cuts. Maybe a little furniture polish sprayed on the router table would really smooth things out.
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

Active Member
Corey this are the 2 units I was referring too.....





GHL Profilux Plus 2 Beginner Pack












Limited time price reduction of $100!!! All Packs will be dropped shipped from our supplier as soon as the new shipment arrives at its lower price! Buy in now at the reduced price and your pack will be shipped in approximately 2 weeks for a savings of $100.
GHL ProfiLux Plus II Beginner Pack
Includes:

  • Profilux Plus II Controller

  • 6 Outlet Digital Powerbar

  • Power Supply

  • Temperature Probe

  • PC Interface Cable (Serial)

  • pH Probe
Offers the same functions as Profilux II. Additionally, the electronics for the measurement of pH-value and temperature as well as level control are integrated. The temperature sensor is included in delivery.
ProfiLux Plus II has furthermore three extension slots available. Therefore the aquarium computer can - according to your needs - be expanded for example with a communication card (LAN) or with measurement modules.
Characteristics - Overview:
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8 channel illumination control for dimmable and non-dimmable lamps, herewith up to 8 lamps can be programmed separately
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Sunrise and sunset
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Moon phase simulation, calendar-based
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Cloud simulation through random generator, thunderstorm calculation
Rainy days, programmable
Feed pause for pumps
Control of speed-variable current pumps (ebb/tide and wave simulation)
Operation hour meter for lamps
Burning-in mode for fluorescent tubes
Battery-buffered real time clock
PC-interface, LAN and WLAN option, operation with free Windows™-SoftwareProfiLuxControl II possible
Connection option for external display
Display of reminder texts (e.g. "Filter change!")
Control of up to 24 switchable power sockets
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8 clock timer programmable
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8 channel dosing pump control
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Child protection via PIN-code
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Simple and intuitive operation, all settings are made in form of interactive dialogues
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All settings are stored in a non-volatile storage (EEPROM) even during power failures
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Computer is expandable with 3 additional modules
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Connection option for radio-controlled clock receiver (DCF)
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Several aquarium computers can be networked
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Offers same functions as ProfiLux II
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Offers additionally: Regulation of the pH-value via CO2-addition (downwards) or via alkalisation (upwards), programmable nightly decrease
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Sequential temperature control for glow bar, ground heating and cooling, programmable nightly decrease, speed-regulated fans controllable
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Alarm function, output of the alarm optical, acoustic or via switchable powerbar
Operation hour meter for all sensors
Therapy program for ill fishes
With extension cards redox-, conductivity- and oxygen-values can be measured respectively regulated
Connection option for level sensors
Automatic calibration of all sensors
Recording of measurement data
Temperature sensor included in delivery





GHL Profilux 3 Starter Pack












Includes:
Profilux Plus III Controller
6 Outlet Digital Powerbar (PAB)
Power Supply
GHL Temperature Probe
Generic Ph Probe[*]PC Interface Cable RS232
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USB Cable
2m PAB Cable
Calibration Solutions for Ph7 and Ph9
ProfiLux 3 Technical overview
• ProfiLux 3 – control device
• Powerbar-PAB – digital powerbar
• Expansion Box – further in and outputs, as well as 5 slots for modules
• SMS-Module-PAB
• Dosing Unit-PAB
• ProfiLux View-PAB (display & operating device with coloured display and touch screen)
The cable length between two bus devices may be up to 100metres (Nearly 400 feet), wiring in series or star topology (PAB-hub necessary) is possible. This in turn enables the controller to be positioned anywhere you so choose, not restricting it to tank side operation only.
Due to the modular buildup, the number of sockets, sensor inputs, 1-10V-interfaces and communication interfaces is nearly unlimited.
Functions &features (dependent on the available hardware)
• Measurement & control of pH-value, temperature, Redox, conductivity (salt or fresh water), oxygen, humidity, air temperature, all sensors are galvanically isolated.
• Seasonal temperature courses.
• Automatic calibration of all sensors.
• Auto top off, automatic water change, leakage detection.
• Illumination control for dimmable (1-10V-interfaces or DALI) and non-dimmable lamps, calendar-based moon phases, storms, also seasonally variable illumination possible including thunderstorm simulations using the GHL LED sticks and spots.
• AC dimmable ballast controllable eg Phillips advanced mark 10.
• Aqua Illumination compatible unlocking the true capabilities of the aqua illumination system.
• TMC Aqua Ray controllable.
• 8 x Tunze stream controllable with the addition of a single cable, no Tunze controller required. Tunze wave box controllable.
• Hydor Koralia 12v controllable using pump control-1 expansion box.
• Pump control for controllable and non-controllable pumps (see above), different pump groups with different settings, waves, ebb-flow, surge, random, sequences, shortest wave duration 0,4 s, therefore also suited for wave boxes .
• Dosing pump control, GHL dosing pump systems.
• Universal timers, shortest switching time 1s.
• Integrated web-server (display of values and configuration, remote programming), own website can be loaded, compatible with all current browsers.
• Integrated e-mail-client (sending of e-mails in case of an alarm).
• PIN-protection.
• Reminder functions.
• Optical and acoustic alarm.
• Feeding pause and maintenance function.
• Safety functions, e.g. redundant sensors, monitoring of the sensor function, value check.
• Due to simple software updates (device doesn’t need to be opened for this), always the newest functions are available.
• Large internal storage for measured values for all sensors, according to the setting, you can store measured values up to several years.• Switch-on delay of sockets after blackout.
• Programmable logic.
• PC-software available for FREE.
• 100%-downwardly compatible: hardware of ProfiLux Plus II can be used further on (e.g. expansion cards, powerbars, ProfiLux View II).
• ProfiLux Plus II can be upgraded to ProfiLux 3, ProfiLux Plus II (eX) can be upgraded to ProfiLux 3 (eX) with an Upgrade-Kit.
• Connection of external display and operating units (ProfiLux View-PAB) possible, also several to one system.
• Internal clock keeps on running also during a blackout (Goldcap instead of battery, therefore no battery change necessary).
• All settings remain also during blackout.
• Universal analog (0 - 10 V) and digital inputs.
Hardware ProfiLux 3
• 32Bit-controller – enough reserve of processing power and storage for future extensions
• Inputs for pH-value, temperature, 2 x level (ProfiLux 3 eX has additional inputs for redox, conductivity and one more level sensor).
• 2x expansion slots. Infinite further expansion with the PAB expansion box
• 4x 1-10V-interfaces with additional shut-off signals, dimmable electronic ballasts can be turned completely powerless at 0% (6x for ProfiLux 3 eX ).
• 2x connections for ProfiLux II-powerbars.
• LAN (WLAN compatible: if a wireless bridge is used, a wireless connection is possible).
• USB.
• 2x ProfiLux Aquatic Bus (PAB)-Interface.
• RS232-port, to connect a SMS-Module or a ProfiLux View, also suited for the connection to PCs, multimedia controller or house automation systems with RS232.
• Graphical blue/white display.
• Robust key pad.
Hardware Powerbar-PAB
• 6x separately switchable sockets each can be loaded with 15 AMP.
• Current measurement for all sockets.
• Safety switches in case of a failure of ProfiLux or PAB – sockets then overtake a preprogrammed state (on or off).
Hardware Expansion Box-PAB
• Inputs for pH-value, temperature, conductivity, Redox, 2 x level.
• 5x expansion slots.
• 4x 1-10V-interfaces (6x for ProfiLux 3 eX ).




LEDControl4 - Passive












LEDControl4 passive converts 4 analog input voltages into 4 pulse width modulated (PWM) signals (Open-Collector), external LED drivers can be controlled by these PWM signals. In order to protect a connected ProfiLux against possible interferences the input circuits and the output circuits are galvanic insulated through optocouplers. In the case of 0% PWM, the transistors are insulating (output is highly resistive), in case of 100% PWM, the output is permanently pulled to minus potential, this behavior can be inverted.
LEDControl4 passive can produce „flashes“ during a thunderstorm simulation in ProfiLux. During a flash, the PWM-signal is temporarily set to 50%, 75% or 100%, independently from the corresponding analog input. Flashes can be output at channel 1 and channel 2, the flashing behavior can be set, see below.



Preconditions

  • 1 or 2 free 1-10 V-interfaces at ProfiLux

  • LED-lamps which can be controlled via PWM (Open Collector)
    Connection and operation

    • The delivered control lines (Western cables) are at one end plugged into the corresponding sockets of LEDControl4, at the other end they are plugged into free sockets with 1-10V-interfaces (e.g. L1L2 and L3L4) of ProfiLux.

    • The control inputs of the LED-drivers are connected to the delivered screw-type terminal.

    The example above shows the connection of 4 LED-drivers, perhaps the use of pullup resistors against a positive voltage is necessary.
    Settings
    Please don’t forget to program the corresponding 1-10V-interfaces and illumination channels of ProfiLux accordingly.
    In LEDControl4 you can set the flashing behavior. The settings are made in ProfiLuxControl and are sent via ProfiLux to LEDControl4. The following settings are stored in LEDControl4 and are kept also without operating voltage.
    Reaction to Flash 1, Flash 2 or Flashes 1 & 2
    PWM for Flash at 50%, 75% or 100%
    Output flashes at channel 1 or channels 1 & 2
    Furthermore the PWM signal can be inverted
Additional information you will find in your user manual of ProfiLux.
Important hints
Electrical installations must always be made by qualified person.
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Please pay attention that the used LED-drivers are compatible, currents, voltages and polarity have to be considered, maybe pullup resistors have to be used.
Protect LEDControl4 passive from splash water and too high humidity.
The non-observance of this manual or the improper use will lead to a loss of warranty!
Disclaimer
The manufacturer doesn’t take over any liability for (consequential) damages which occur through the use of this device.
 
2quills

2quills

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Interesting. I was digging around over on their site. It looks like you can't run an expansion box on the ProfiLux 2 like you can with the 3. So realistically, you're pretty limited on what you can do with a 2.
I think the 2 will work as far as a programmable timer for your leds if you want. And you'd be able to simulate sunrise, sunset and time your moon light cycle by switching on/off times for the drivers. But if you want to run the PWM controller to have a truly programmable timer and storm simulator along with dimming controllabillity then you'll need to get the ProfiLux 3. Does that sound right to you?
A 3 runs about $800.
The passive controller is $76
And depending what other features you may or may not want to run with the controller you're probably going to have to shell out at least a couple of hundred (minimum) in order to expand it to have the LED simulation capabilities on top of your other features?
The Vortech control module is nearly another $200.
 
2quills

2quills

Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/1580#post_3463546
The 2 can be upgraded to a 3.......
True, although it looks like you're going to pay a premium in going that route. Could get a little more bang for the buck right out of the gate I think by spending a couple extra Benjies for the Pro. 3.
Actually looks like you can use the 2 with the pwm controller though so that's still not bad if your just looking for basic monitoring functions.
Is it true that if you want to connect with your PC that you'll have to also purchase the LAN card? $200
Who do these people think they are? lol
 
southern wolf

southern wolf

Member
I know all about the work schedule thingie... Every day I go into work.. I stand a chance of being told I cant go home at the end of my shift. Only thing worse than 8hrs here is 16hrs here.
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

Active Member
Corey I spoke with a couple different people today, and the conclusion is the PS II's don't have the upgrade kits available do to many boards being ruined during the upgrade.....I'm positive the issues weren't involved when the manufacturer did the upgrades themselves, but the issues arose when the upgrades were done by individual owners......Therefore they discontinued any upgrade boards to the PS II.....The PS II's still offer a ton of functions and options, but as I had talked to you about my major hang up is with the Vortechs......The Vortech controller for the Profilux is a PAB which is a new addition for the new models coming out. The Vortech module isn't compatible with the PS II's......Just as the new power bars which are PAB as well....They are the only changes with the newer systems. So a short and sweet answer Corey is no the new module will only work with the new PAB compatible units.....
Corey the 2 Vortech modules seem pretty similar IMO......Again the thing I'm hung up on is the the Profilux III offers way more flexibility, but that flexibility does come at a cost.....Though.....The PS II still has the ability already built into it to do clouds, thunderstorms and what not.......To take advantage fully of the features or any dimmable ballast you'd have to purchase this module to fully dim the ballasts to their capabilities....




Profilux EVG-AP-2F Ballast Control Board
















This PCB provides the interface between dimmable ballasts and the ProfiLux. The EVG-AP-2F also has onboard 0Volt switching, meaning, when the ballasts are reduced to their lowest voltage setting, the PCB detects this and automatically switches the power off to the lights, eliminating the need for an external timer.












Price: $36.80




 
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