Another Disgusting Oil Spill!!

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3275766
All 12 cams, all BP has, are available here;
http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcam
Is there a map of where these cameras are compared to the BOP and the riser?

 

[bionicarm]

Looking at one live feed, the cap didn't appear to seal very well. Quite a bit of oil spewing from the underside of the cap. From the diagram I saw on MSN, they sheared off the top of the bent tube that was coming out of the top of the main riser equipment. They then slipped this cap on top of that. So the cap isn't sitting completely over the entire riser structure, or dropping all the way down to the ocean floor.

 

[mrdc]

Also there appears to be 4 vents on top of the cap that they are now working to close but visibility is making it tough. Once the vents are closed, we will then know if this cap is really doing anything.

 

[reefraff]

As long as the oil is allowed to flow the pressure in the pool will decrease gradually. If you try to stop the flow that will cause the pressure to increase. I wouldn't trust that cap to stay on if they try to just turn it off.
I am sure the environmentalists would pass little green apples but I think BP should get it under control and produce the well and turn all the proceeds from the oil over to the gulf states.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3275844
As long as the oil is allowed to flow the pressure in the pool will decrease gradually. If you try to stop the flow that will cause the pressure to increase. I wouldn't trust that cap to stay on if they try to just turn it off.
I am sure the environmentalists would pass little green apples but I think BP should get it under control and produce the well and turn all the proceeds from the oil over to the gulf states.
actually they do have a pipe on it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN...pe=marketsNews

 

[reefraff]

That was the plan but I think the pipe is too small to keep the ice crystals from forming again which is why they have the vents open.

 

[mrdc]

Just nuke the bastage!! Oh yeah, "this has never been attempted at 5,000 feet".
On a side note, I see Obama out touting a stronger economy with the new jobs report. Seriously? A 431,000 increase in jobs with 411,000 being census workers isn't anything to be touting as positive in my opinion. Census work is temporary and is low paying but I guess it is giving some people much needed work. I guess when the census is over, there will be plenty of oil cleanup jobs available.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3275850
That was the plan but I think the pipe is too small to keep the ice crystals from forming again which is why they have the vents open.
supposition, once they have it welded on, they'll close those vents, and hope the seal is good enough to keep the hydrates from freezing.

 

[fishtaco]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3275879
supposition, once they have it welded on, they'll close those vents, and hope the seal is good enough to keep the hydrates from freezing.
Being a welder, I have been really hoping that someone will do a report on how they actually weld at that depth and give us a look at the equipment. I have no idea how they could possibly do it with all the salt, oil and contaminents that have to be on the metal they are trying to weld. Above ground for a weld to be strong all the surfaces have to be extremely clean.
Fishtaco

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3275886
Being a welder, I have been really hoping that someone will do a report on how they actually weld at that depth and give us a look at the equipment. I have no idea how they could possibly do it with all the salt, oil and contaminents that have to be on the metal they are trying to weld. Above ground for a weld to be strong all the surfaces have to be extremely clean.
Fishtaco
They don't typically do underwater welds like this... The filling they're gonna have to do that is gonna be one ugly crappy weld...

 

[aquaknight]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3275825
Is there a map of where these cameras are compared to the BOP and the riser?
No, nothing that I saw. It seems like two of them are permanently running dispersant. About 5 mins ago, I saw what appeared to be a reducer of some sort being lowered.
Here is a better page with the cams. You don't have to scroll.
http://www.jtnog.org/

 

[reefraff]

What I read was it will be clamped on and has a rubber seal I assume they will shoot fluid in to make a tight fit. Even if the thing allows them to pump half the oil up to barges it will help anyway.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3275930
What I read was it will be clamped on and has a rubber seal I assume they will shoot fluid in to make a tight fit. Even if the thing allows them to pump half the oil up to barges it will help anyway.
The question is how round and smooth is the pipe...

 

[aquaknight]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3275940
The question is how round and smooth is the pipe...
What I don't get is why they just didn't use shearer first, take like 98% of the bent, dangling pipe off. Then come back with the diamond cutter. Since now there's just a tiny section of pipe left, the blade is very unlikely to get stuck.
Instead now, they just sheared the crap out of it, and I can't imagine the seal is going to work very effectively....

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3275944
What I don't get is why they just didn't use shearer first, take like 98% of the bent, dangling pipe off. Then come back with the diamond cutter. Since now there's just a tiny section of pipe left, the blade is very unlikely to get stuck.
Instead now, they just sheared the crap out of it, and I can't imagine the seal is going to work very effectively....
Maybe, because they felt like the shear would crimp the pipe? This I dunno.

 

[acrylic51]

Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3275944
What I don't get is why they just didn't use shearer first, take like 98% of the bent, dangling pipe off. Then come back with the diamond cutter. Since now there's just a tiny section of pipe left, the blade is very unlikely to get stuck.
Agree!!!!
Instead now, they just sheared the crap out of it, and I can't imagine the seal is going to work very effectively....
Agree, what your saying makes good sense.....use the finer cutting blade to make the final smooth cut instead of going for broke all at once...

 

[reefraff]

Could be an issue of splitting the pipe if a shear was used. Not that it really matters, even if had used a shear then did the cut it would have taken just as long or longer to get it done.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3275944
What I don't get is why they just didn't use shearer first, take like 98% of the bent, dangling pipe off. Then come back with the diamond cutter. Since now there's just a tiny section of pipe left, the blade is very unlikely to get stuck.
Instead now, they just sheared the crap out of it, and I can't imagine the seal is going to work very effectively....
The closest think I could come and think of would be say a copper tube. If I went out there with some bolt cutters and tried to cut a 1/2 copper tube I"d crimp the thing before I cut it.

 

[mrdc]

BP's CEO "majority of leaking oil is being captured". Am I watching the wrong live video?

 

[reefraff]

Dunno but they claim to have captured 420,000 gallona of oil in the last 24 hours. Seems to indicate the thing is blowing at least 10,000 barrels a day. That is a lot of oil.