Bonds just tied it.

[seasalt101]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
When's the last time any of those teams won anything? I grew up in the Bay Area, so I'm familiar with winning. What's going on there now is not winning.
sounds like you are one of those "jump on the bandwagon types" not a true fan just like the winners a true fan goes through winning and losing and the kings were an excellant basketball team except last year the giants were in the world series 4 years ago...tobin

 

[rbaldino]

Originally Posted by seasalt101
sounds like you are one of those "jump on the bandwagon types" not a true fan just like the winners a true fan goes through winning and losing and the kings were an excellant basketball team except last year the giants were in the world series 4 years ago...tobin
I don't care about Bay Area sports. I was simply pointing out why Jmick said it was a "dreadful" sports town. Reefernana seemed to think he was saying there were no sports, when what he meant was that they suck.

 

[reefernana]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
When's the last time any of those teams won anything? I grew up in the Bay Area, so I'm familiar with winning. What's going on there now is not winning.
All but the Raiders have made it into the playoffs, off and on, for the last several years now so I don't know what you are talking about. All of the Bay Area teams, also, fill up their stadiums week after week, even if they don't win their championships. There are way more arguments as to their successes as there are to their failures, so I think you are just grasping now. By the way, I'm done now. I made my point and I don't need to keep coming back with ignorant rantings.

 

[rbaldino]

Originally Posted by reefernana
All but the Raiders have made it into the playoffs, off and on, for the last several years now so I don't know what you are talking about.
Considering that in the NHL and NBA teams can make the playoffs without even having a winning record, that's not saying much. And the A's, Giants, Raiders and 49ers probably aren't getting there this year, either. So really, there's not much to get excited about.

 

[reefernana]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
I don't care about Bay Area sports. I was simply pointing out why Jmick said it was a "dreadful" sports town. Reefernana seemed to think he was saying there were no sports, when what he meant was that they suck.
I knew exactly what he was trying to say. I was just pointing out how bad our teams are, which is that they are pretty dam good. That's why I thought I should list them because I don't think he knew what teams came from the Bay Area. You can go back yourself and see how good they have been the last many years yourself, cuz you probably wouldn't believe me anyhow. As I said to Jmick, I'm done, I've made my point and Tobin you can't argue with people that think they know everything......lol!

 

[jmick]

Originally Posted by reefernana
I knew exactly what he was trying to say. I was just pointing out how bad our teams are, which is that they are pretty dam good. That's why I thought I should list them because I don't think he knew what teams came from the Bay Area. You can go back yourself and see how good they have been the last many years yourself, cuz you probably wouldn't believe me anyhow. As I said to Jmick, I'm done, I've made my point and Tobin you can't argue with people that think they know everything......lol!
I thought in your last post you said you were done...which is it? I am very familair with the sport teams in the Bay area and I stand firm, as a whole they are average at best. Raiders are one of the worst teams in football, the Niners are getting better but are still questionable, The Giants have one of the worst records in baseball and they are in the national league, the A's are 10 or 11 out of first place and about the same in the race for the wild card, the Kings are a bad team but thanks to the draft they will improve and the Warriors were a nice story last year but they aren't one of the 15 best teams in the NBA..don't know hockey so I won't comment there.

 

[rbaldino]

Originally Posted by reefernana
I knew exactly what he was trying to say. I was just pointing out how bad our teams are, which is that they are pretty dam good. That's why I thought I should list them because I don't think he knew what teams came from the Bay Area. You can go back yourself and see how good they have been the last many years yourself, cuz you probably wouldn't believe me anyhow. As I said to Jmick, I'm done, I've made my point and Tobin you can't argue with people that think they know everything......lol!
See Jmick's post. Bay Area sports is far removed from its glory days. And you can't argue that other than Bonds there really isn't anything else going on.

 

[califishdude]

If you put Ruth, Aaron, and Bonds in the same time era, who do you think the overall best player would be? Does anyone know what type of player Aaron was. I was born in 73 so i missed it. He looked like a awesome player.

 

[67 demon]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
I wish I could have walked in his shoes. Bonds grew up privileged and had every advantage imaginable. And even with that he felt like he had to cheat. You're right; people shouldn't be judgemental. As far as I know, though, none of us on the board every played Major League Baseball and cheated our way to a significant record. If he can't handle being judged, he can quit.
I see where you are coming from. But remember, just because you have pedigree does not mean you automatically pass go and collect $100. In all of the different professional sports, rarely do you see the offspring or pedigree of former greats live up to the same superstar status let alone make the same pro league as their relative. Many times, college or semi-pros is as far as they get.
In reference to Barry being judged, i think he handles the judgment well. Since i don't know him, it appears that it doesn't bother him and quite the contrary it seems to bother others that he doesn't respond to the media in the customary fashion.
Is the real issue that Barry accepted the cream and clear medication and therefor cheated or is it more because he has been labeled as a jerk and a bunch of other names and you wouldn't want a person of that character to break records? If it really is because he used the cream, then from here on out, you will have to question any person who contends Bonds HR title in the future. Presently, it appears that A Rod will be the person to do this, but like i mentioned earlier, i challenge you to look for a rookie pic of his through one of the search engines and you will see why A Rod should be questioned and subpoenaed about use of banned substances.

 

[crimzy]

Originally Posted by 67 Demon
Presently, it appears that A Rod will be the person to do this, but like i mentioned earlier, i challenge you to look for a rookie pic of his through one of the search engines and you will see why A Rod should be questioned and subpoenaed about use of banned substances.
This is the main problem with what Bonds, and so many others, did. There is no reason at all to suggest that ARod is suspicious. To my knowledge, he has never been identified or associated with steroids. However because of Bonds and the "steroid era", everyone is suspected. This issue has compromised the integrity of the entire sport, just like the NBA is now under suspicion because of the acts of one unsrupulous referee.

 

[jovial]

Gas prices, war, economy, global warming & Bonds just tied it...who cares? He doesn't care about you, why patronize/glamorize people like him?

 

[skipperdz]

bonds is the most tested player in the league...has he tested positive? nope! if he did hed be done! 2ndly hes 43 years old and still knocking them out of the park. whether he used them at some point in time is pretty irrevelant since he's clean and still hitting the snot out of it, and would stay in the league until he beat the record...so it would have taken an xtra year or 2.
but it wont last long since Arod will crush it in the next 5 years.

 

[jennythebugg]

Originally Posted by skipperdz
bonds is the most tested player in the league...has he tested positive? nope! if he did hed be done! 2ndly hes 43 years old and still knocking them out of the park. whether he used them at some point in time is pretty irrevelant since he's clean and still hitting the snot out of it, and would stay in the league until he beat the record...so it would have taken an xtra year or 2.
but it wont last long since Arod will crush it in the next 5 years.
he also tied the record in 1 season less than aaron and if arod beats it fine that will mean i'll see the record go three times in my lifetime but health is always an issue and love of the game we looking at 6 years anyway with arod till he is close and barry will still be chalking them up so the record will be much higher for arod...tobin

 

[rbaldino]

Originally Posted by skipperdz
bonds is the most tested player in the league...has he tested positive? nope! if he did hed be done! 2ndly hes 43 years old and still knocking them out of the park. whether he used them at some point in time is pretty irrevelant since he's clean and still hitting the snot out of it, and would stay in the league until he beat the record...so it would have taken an xtra year or 2.
but it wont last long since Arod will crush it in the next 5 years.
Just because he hasn't been caught doesn't mean he's clean. I speed all the time without getting caught. Murders go unsolved all the time. Doesn't mean a crime hasn't been committed. And bragging that he's 43 and still knocking them out doesn't help his case any.

 

[ice4ice]

A big, fat * for a cheater ... Barry Bonds suck !! A-Rod will overtake him ... IF he stays clean.

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by Pontius
here's an interesting link:
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
pull the two lines for Hank and Bonds across the chart. you'll notice that at different points in their careers, Hank was well ahead of Bonds up until the end of their 15th season. for Bonds, that would've been around 2001. that happened to coincide with the time that he magically put on nearly 30 pounds of muscle in a single offseason. it's also amazing (and apparently magical) how he got more power in the final 5 years of his career than he did in the first 5 years of his career. this clearly does not match up with every other athlete whose ever lived, since the inevitable unavoidable reality is that your abilities DECREASE with age. but hey, EVERYBODY in baseball is juiced, so Bonds is just better than everybody else, right? of course, he's the only one ever to have gotten BETTER as they get closer and closer to 40, but hey, whatever.
What about some of these pitchers who are also late in age who seem to get better with age. IMO they are probably guilty as the same thing as Bonds, yet they fly under the radar. This is the Steroid Era, and Bonds is not the only guy to do this he is probably one of hundreds. I think his record and accomplishments are still a great feat, its too bad that they will be looked at with scutiny because he is probably the greatest baseball player ever.

 

[ice4ice]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
What about some of these pitchers who are also late in age who seem to get better with age. IMO they are probably guilty as the same thing as Bonds, yet they fly under the radar. This is the Steroid Era, and Bonds is not the only guy to do this he is probably one of hundreds. I think his record and accomplishments are still a great feat, its too bad that they will be looked at with scutiny because he is probably the greatest baseball player ever.
You cannot compare Bonds to the great Cal Ripken who is THE GREATEST baseball player PERIOD !!! Nuff' Said !!!

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
Considering that in the NHL and NBA teams can make the playoffs without even having a winning record, that's not saying much. And the A's, Giants, Raiders and 49ers probably aren't getting there this year, either. So really, there's not much to get excited about.
Golden State was pretty exciting to watch

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by Ice4Ice
You cannot compare Bonds to the great Cal Ripken who is THE GREATEST baseball player PERIOD !!! Nuff' Said !!!
Are you serious? Ripken was a great player...HOF player, but he's not in the same league as Bonds. Ripken is like Curtis Martin (He's top 5 on alltime rushing list in NFL) Bonds is like Jim Brown.

 

[sudc]

Originally Posted by reefernana
Sounds like more jealousy to me. And, as a matter of fact, he has been a role model already for my son. Back in 1998, when my son was going through his radiation treatments at UCSF, we were brought to several Giant's functions of which Barry and many of the other players were there, too. Barry spent actual time with my son and was quite an inspiration to all of us. Now, you can try to rebuke this but it was real and it happened, I was there. You can believe me or not, I really don't care, because I know it was true as well as about 150 other people that were there that time and several thousand who were that the second time. So, you'll never convince me just how bad he is, unless you perhaps met with him and he was degrading to you personally???
I don't believe for one second that this ever happened with Barry, especially if you and your son are white.
I'm sure you have a million pictures of your son and Barry being so close and intimate that day, lets see them