Do you believe in evolution?

kjr_trig

kjr_trig

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Originally Posted by Jmick
As are you and everyone here who supports either theory, so I don't think I am alone.
That said, I would wager that most educated people would agree that the earth was not created in 6 days and is much older then 7000 years.
I'll gladly take science over religion any day of the week. Look what science/engineering has given us...
Cloning
Artifical hearts
Surgery
Flight
Electricity
Sky Scrapers
Nuclear Weapons
Space Flight
Cure to some cancers
But religion has given us plenty of wars!!!
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
Sure sure sure, but where did I get that passage from? I mean I only changed two words.... Fun game.
I am never saying that something comes from nothing. Just the something seem possible to come from something else.
That's the crux of it...
Both Evolution and Creation espouse the same thing at the beginning: That there was nothing.
 
mike22cha

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All I got to say is that Darwin himself said his "theory"(which isn't a theory because it can't be tested and stand the test of time which is the scientific defintion for theory) was highly unlikely.
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
And more martyrs...
Do you think we are ever going to make Bin-laden one? That'd be a shame, would much rather catch him and lock him in a cold dark cell for the next 30-40 years.
 
clown boy

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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
If he decides what is proof or not I highly doubt he will ever accept any proof that is shown to him.
The claim he uses is merely for shock value, to make people say, "Wow, this guy MUST be sure if he'll risk so much money!"
I doubt many scientists have taken him up on his offer since the evidence they find probably brings in far more money than $250,000.
Actually, thousands have. The truth is that without major assumptions, there is no proof for evolutions.
 
jerthunter

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Actually, thousands have. The truth is that without major assumptions, there is no proof for evolutions.
If you can prove ANYTHING to me, I will give you $500,000. Of course, the proof will be judged solely by me, so good luck.
 
jerthunter

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
That's the crux of it...
Both Evolution and Creation espouse the same thing at the beginning: That there was nothing.
I suppose some people's ideas of evolution start with nothing but many accept that they will probably never know but they can study what the see and what they see does support evolution, micro, macro, centi, or whatever other word you want to place before it.
 
reefreak29

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Originally Posted by Jmick
As are you and everyone here who supports either theory, so I don't think I am alone.
That said, I would wager that most educated people would agree that the earth was not created in 6 days and is much older then 7000 years.
I'll gladly take science over religion any day of the week. Look what science/engineering has given us...
Cloning
Artifical hearts
Surgery
Flight
Electricity
Sky Scrapers
Nuclear Weapons
Space Flight
Cure to some cancers
great now im uneducated
 
jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by reefreak29
great now im uneducated
I don't know you so I could not answer that. However, I do enjoy most of the threads you are involved in and enjoy your input...could have sworn I sent you a PM not to long ago thanking you for the discussion

Do you think most people with a 4 year college eduction, masters or PHd think the world was created in 6 days?
 
clown boy

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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
If you can prove ANYTHING to me, I will give you $500,000. Of course, the proof will be judged solely by me, so good luck.
I beseech you to remove this post... for your own good...
 
jerthunter

jerthunter

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
I beseech you to remove this post... for your own good...
Come on.. I'll let you start off with an easy one... Prove to me that 1 +1 is 2. . .
It will be super easy money for you
If you don't like that, prove to me that you exist.. or that I exist. or that this is even actually happening....
 
reefreak29

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Originally Posted by Jmick
I don't know you so I could not answer that. However, I do enjoy most of the threads you are involved in and enjoy your input...could have sworn I sent you a PM not to long ago thanking you for the discussion

Do you think most people with a 4 year college eduction, masters or PHd think the world was created in 6 days?
lol i dont know, i do and the educated people at my church do. I did get the pm and really appreciated it
 
jerthunter

jerthunter

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
So now you're going to start saying that nothing is provable?
Am I? Hmmm. I don't know, or do I know.
Maybe I am saying that if one chooses not to believe the evidence they are presented it becomes impossible to prove anything to them.
 
reefreak29

reefreak29

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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
Am I? Hmmm. I don't know, or do I know.
Maybe I am saying that if one chooses not to believe the evidence they are presented it becomes impossible to prove anything to them.
i do see your point, if someone wont believe how can you prove it to them
 
jerthunter

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Originally Posted by reefreak29
i do see your point, if someone wont believe how can you prove it to them
Exactly, to quote the bible, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'" - From the book of Luke.
I would say the same philosophy can apply in other situations.
 
jerthunter

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Indeed. But I will listen if you present evidence for evolution... and I hope you will vise versa.
I have tried my best, with my very limited knowledge to present evidence that seems to support evolution. Namely, the fossil record. You than told me that the fossil of which I spoke had been 'proven falsehoods'. You have not backed up that claim with any evidence. You only showed me an old article which critiqued another article that was based on a scientific paper. The article offered no evidence of its own, it merely picked pieces here and there from a very watered down article based on a scientific paper and attempted attempt to bring doubt to the minds of people who are no familiar enough with the methods of classifying bones to know any better.
Maybe I missed something, I am pretty slow so feel free to fill me in on the details.
 
autofreak44

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just wanted to make sure that we are all on the same page here
this is a definition taken from my biology text book
scientific theory- As evidence from numerous investigations builds up, a particular hypothesis may become so well supported that scientists consider it a Scientific theory
so if darwin has a "theory" of evolution" then there is plenty of evidence to support his theory and have it widely accepted
but darwin's theory cant save you from "eternal damnation" (or whatever you want to put between those quotes) which is why people turn to creationism. its a much more simple explanation
but sort of un-logical if you think about it...
as if my opinion mattered, i would say that religion doesnt go back far enough to tell weather or not evolution exists. i do, however, believe in god (or a higher power)... so im going to have to say undecided
enjoy
 
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