Originally Posted by
Darthtang AW
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Ok, here you go, no matter which theory to the beginning of the universe you subscribe to something had to cause the begining event. Atoms colliding, gases exploding, star going nova, something caused that, this is basic science 101. Cause and effect. For every cause there is an effect and can be tracked. The ultimate cause is god, unless you can can show me another cause that made atoms collide and such. Something put the atoms in motion...what was that. Until Science can prove this portion of the begining, you can not disprove GOD.
To further touch on God. If there is no God, they why be a good person? What benefit is there? Truly? I can get what I want and live a "good" life for a while by stealing, killing, and raping. If the end is just death, well we all die, so why not go out having all the fun I could possibly have instead of Working a lot of hours to obtain just a few things for myself.
why worry about the poor and those less fortunate? Because some other human may view me as a uncaring individual? Big deal. If their is no god then
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the poor, weak, meek, and less fortunate, after all science and nature ultimately runs off natural selection and without a belief in something like a god we are no more than animals. Sure we can think, and create things. But so can Monkeys to a degree. Hell they can be taught to fly airplanes for goodness sake. So why try to be a good person. What benefit is there in it...I get to live till 90 and possibly have a full and rich life full of everything I want with hardship along the way.
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that. If there is no god, then there is no reason to be concerned about anyone but myself. Because after all, if this is all there is, then I want all I can get and damn everyone else...
Get my point?
Sorry, that theory has been used too many times to prove a PHYSICAL god exists. You're talking about FAITH. A mental belief there's some All Seeing, All Knowing being that lives in this euphoric place and looks down on us controlling our lives and our fate. I can't disprove this Almighty Power of yours created atoms, and you can't prove He did. It's called The Universe. No one really knows where it came from, or how it was created. So if this god of your is real, where has he been for the last 300 billion years? Why doesn't he pop up every now and then to let us know he exists?
But that has nothing to do with how you treat your fellow man. Just because you don't believe in god, you're unable to respect, love, and care for another human being? You're unable to be this 'good person' you speak of just because you don't believe god exists? What kind of logic is that?
Sorry, but there are millions of compassionate and caring atheists and agnosticts. I'm one of them. It's pretty pathetic if you think you're above me just because I don't believe in this god of yours. I do work hard for what I have. I do have a multitude of family and friends that I love and care for, and do whatever it takes to help them in a time of crisis. I just don't have to justify my life by saying 'God is great, God is good. God tells me everything is OK'. If that's what gets you through each day, to believe that when you die you'll end up in this Eternity flying around with wings on your back, good for you. For me, there's only one true Cycle Of Life...
You're Born, **not needed** , You Die, Then The Worms Eat You....