I am new at saltwater fish. Need some help
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gundamseed31
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After hearing all of this i am starting to have doubts with my hydrometer. Is possible that all tap water has the hydro reading and i can compare that to the hydrometer i have at home? Like if i were to take the tap water my kitchen and take is reading and find the actually level of tap water from google and find the differences in result. Would anyone suggest this method? I am only looking at this option because i cannot find anyone that i can compare to another person. I will try to buy an refractometer from a store, if that doesn't work out. I will try to get it from online. Does anyone have any site suggestion? Thank you.
btldreef
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Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344599
After hearing all of this i am starting to have doubts with my hydrometer. Is possible that all tap water has the hydro reading and i can compare that to the hydrometer i have at home? Like if i were to take the tap water my kitchen and take is reading and find the actually level of tap water from google and find the differences in result. Would anyone suggest this method? I am only looking at this option because i cannot find anyone that i can compare to another person. I will try to buy an refractometer from a store, if that doesn't work out. I will try to get it from online. Does anyone have any site suggestion? Thank you.
This site.
As for testing tap water, it won't work, as tap water doesn't have salt in it. The best thing you can do is bring a sample of your water to the LFS and have then test it.
Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344599
After hearing all of this i am starting to have doubts with my hydrometer. Is possible that all tap water has the hydro reading and i can compare that to the hydrometer i have at home? Like if i were to take the tap water my kitchen and take is reading and find the actually level of tap water from google and find the differences in result. Would anyone suggest this method? I am only looking at this option because i cannot find anyone that i can compare to another person. I will try to buy an refractometer from a store, if that doesn't work out. I will try to get it from online. Does anyone have any site suggestion? Thank you.
This site.
As for testing tap water, it won't work, as tap water doesn't have salt in it. The best thing you can do is bring a sample of your water to the LFS and have then test it.
J
jstdv8
Guest
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
gundamseed31
Member
Ok. I will test go and test it.
gundamseed31
Member
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Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
I actually been testing my water. I still see no sign of ammonia or nitrites. Only Nitrates. I know the stuff i stuff i pour in has a mircale or not. They are suggesting wait 2 weeks and continue testing the water before i add CUC and then later on fish.
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
I actually been testing my water. I still see no sign of ammonia or nitrites. Only Nitrates. I know the stuff i stuff i pour in has a mircale or not. They are suggesting wait 2 weeks and continue testing the water before i add CUC and then later on fish.
spanko
Active Member
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Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
^This.
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
^This.
flower
Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
I actually been testing my water. I still see no sign of ammonia or nitrites. Only Nitrates. I know the stuff i stuff i pour in has a mircale or not. They are suggesting wait 2 weeks and continue testing the water before i add CUC and then later on fish.
JMO...A Clean Up Crew (CUC) is to clean up algae, until you have enough algae for them to eat they will starve. So wait for the algae bloom before adding a CUC.
Very simple, you don't get a CUC just because the tank cycles and that's the next step. Your next step after the cycle is to let the tank mature and let everything balance. Algae is a sign that is happening.
Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
I actually been testing my water. I still see no sign of ammonia or nitrites. Only Nitrates. I know the stuff i stuff i pour in has a mircale or not. They are suggesting wait 2 weeks and continue testing the water before i add CUC and then later on fish.
JMO...A Clean Up Crew (CUC) is to clean up algae, until you have enough algae for them to eat they will starve. So wait for the algae bloom before adding a CUC.
Very simple, you don't get a CUC just because the tank cycles and that's the next step. Your next step after the cycle is to let the tank mature and let everything balance. Algae is a sign that is happening.
gundamseed31
Member
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344607
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Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
I actually been testing my water. I still see no sign of ammonia or nitrites. Only Nitrates. I know the stuff i stuff i pour in has a mircale or not. They are suggesting wait 2 weeks and continue testing the water before i add CUC and then later on fish.
JMO...A Clean Up Crew (CUC) is to clean up algae, until you have enough algae for them to eat they will starve. So wait for the algae bloom before adding a CUC.
Very simple, you don't get a CUC just because the tank cycles and that's the next step. Your next step after the cycle is to let the tank mature and let everything balance. Algae is a sign that is happening.
How does algae form and where does it usually occur from? Does it start on the live rock if possible?
Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344607
Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
I actually been testing my water. I still see no sign of ammonia or nitrites. Only Nitrates. I know the stuff i stuff i pour in has a mircale or not. They are suggesting wait 2 weeks and continue testing the water before i add CUC and then later on fish.
JMO...A Clean Up Crew (CUC) is to clean up algae, until you have enough algae for them to eat they will starve. So wait for the algae bloom before adding a CUC.
Very simple, you don't get a CUC just because the tank cycles and that's the next step. Your next step after the cycle is to let the tank mature and let everything balance. Algae is a sign that is happening.
How does algae form and where does it usually occur from? Does it start on the live rock if possible?
gundamseed31
Member
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Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344609
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344607
Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
I actually been testing my water. I still see no sign of ammonia or nitrites. Only Nitrates. I know the stuff i stuff i pour in has a mircale or not. They are suggesting wait 2 weeks and continue testing the water before i add CUC and then later on fish.
JMO...A Clean Up Crew (CUC) is to clean up algae, until you have enough algae for them to eat they will starve. So wait for the algae bloom before adding a CUC.
Very simple, you don't get a CUC just because the tank cycles and that's the next step. Your next step after the cycle is to let the tank mature and let everything balance. Algae is a sign that is happening.
How does algae form and where does it usually occur from? Does it start on the live rock if possible?
Where does algae usually start to bloom? Or where a possible hint that i will start see algae? Thanks.
Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344609
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344607
Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamseed31 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344602
Wait a minute here.....
You guys are telling him to go get a CUC when his last ammonia test just read .25 and he hasn't cycled his tank that he just got started on the 25th of last month (about 1 week ago)
He allready lost 1 fish....... that stuff he poured in there is not a miracle cure for cycling.
He needs to continue with the ghost feedings and watch his ammonia, nitrites, nitrates
I actually been testing my water. I still see no sign of ammonia or nitrites. Only Nitrates. I know the stuff i stuff i pour in has a mircale or not. They are suggesting wait 2 weeks and continue testing the water before i add CUC and then later on fish.
JMO...A Clean Up Crew (CUC) is to clean up algae, until you have enough algae for them to eat they will starve. So wait for the algae bloom before adding a CUC.
Very simple, you don't get a CUC just because the tank cycles and that's the next step. Your next step after the cycle is to let the tank mature and let everything balance. Algae is a sign that is happening.
How does algae form and where does it usually occur from? Does it start on the live rock if possible?
Where does algae usually start to bloom? Or where a possible hint that i will start see algae? Thanks.
flower
Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344612
CUC not only for algae, but to eat detritus, uneaten food etc. etc. IMO.
I put it out there as an opinion because I am going by my personal experience, not anything documented or read…so take it with a grain of salt.
I understand that a CUC has a varied function, but I believe you can't just toss in a CUC until it has something to clean up
Since there are no fish yet, there shouldn't be any detritus or uneaten food. Won't you see an algae bloom first?
I know it's been quite a while since I started a new tank, but if memory serves I didn't get a CUC until I saw everything in the tank turn brown...I remember freaking out because my tank was so pretty the night before, and I was told to get some critters to eat it.
As for time frame..I don't remember...a few weeks maybe.
Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382655/i-am-new-at-saltwater-fish-need-some-help/140#post_3344612
CUC not only for algae, but to eat detritus, uneaten food etc. etc. IMO.
I put it out there as an opinion because I am going by my personal experience, not anything documented or read…so take it with a grain of salt.
I understand that a CUC has a varied function, but I believe you can't just toss in a CUC until it has something to clean up
I know it's been quite a while since I started a new tank, but if memory serves I didn't get a CUC until I saw everything in the tank turn brown...I remember freaking out because my tank was so pretty the night before, and I was told to get some critters to eat it.
As for time frame..I don't remember...a few weeks maybe.
J
jstdv8
Guest
Diatoms are normal. they go away on thier own. No need for a CUC for them.
And if you are getting green algae growth that you can't get to go away you need to adjust feeding, lighting, WC's ect.
And if you are getting green algae growth that you can't get to go away you need to adjust feeding, lighting, WC's ect.
spanko
Active Member
Lots of things to eat off of live rock especially detritus. And some of this will make its way to the sandbed. And as the tank is perhaps through its initial cycling phase a CUC will help to support the biofiltering by producing waste also. I am a proponent of blowing off you rock with a turkey baster at water change time. Ever do this? Amazing the stuff that comes off. Even in a newly setup tank with "new" live rock you will get clouds of stuff especially out of the nooks and crannies.
J
jstdv8
Guest
Spanko,
So say you know this guy who has had his tank running for a little over a year and has never done this turkey baster thing. Would this guy (not naming names) blow so much crap into the system in one shot becuase he's never done it before that it could cause some sort of spike or something?
So say you know this guy who has had his tank running for a little over a year and has never done this turkey baster thing. Would this guy (not naming names) blow so much crap into the system in one shot becuase he's never done it before that it could cause some sort of spike or something?
spanko
Active Member
Well this fictitious guy could start off with a rock or area at a time if this fictitious guy was worried. Just tell him, oh yeah he is fictitious, well he should do this just before doing a water change. Then the stuff gets blown into the water column so some of it will be removed with the water he takes out. There is also a lot of good coral food that will be blown up into the water column so the coral get to eat.
slice
Active Member
Thanks spanko!
My friend does not yet have coral, he is still getting his "house" in order. When he does finally get the first frags, he knows exactly where they should go since a friend of my friend already added notes to a picture of his rockscape.
He will be careful and use a turkey baster once coral is present.
My friend does not yet have coral, he is still getting his "house" in order. When he does finally get the first frags, he knows exactly where they should go since a friend of my friend already added notes to a picture of his rockscape.
He will be careful and use a turkey baster once coral is present.
gundamseed31
Member
Ahh. I have a question. Can the salinity specific gravity vary depending amount of water. Like say if a tank vs a fish bag water. Would the salinity be the same as the water taken from the tank and put in the bag? Thanks.