Luv-A-Bully March in S. FL Oct 28!

emmitt2

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Originally Posted by SugarFox03
I understand there's no getting through to you, but to make this a personal attack is uncalled for. There's more to these dogs than an "ego-boost," hopefully you're not serious about that. The people who actually care to live in the real world know & understand these dogs. You may not have to like them, but to come down on their owners is wrong. That would be like me saying you're a wuss for owning a pomeranian, thats not a dog, its a yippy furball thats good for nothing. Give me a break...I'm not coming down on you because of what you CHOOSE to own, don't talk crap about what I CHOOSE to own. I've shown proof of everything I have mentioned. So you're a little hard-headed, fine, and won't read more about your own breed, ok, whatever makes you happy in your own little world. Pit bulls are wonderful family dogs, just ask any responsible person who owns one. I DARE you to research the breed, I DARE you to learn about something you know nothing about. Want some great places to start, so you don't have to do any work other than click a few links... check out www.pitbullforum.com www.pbrc.net or www.badrap.org You won't find a single knowledgeable pit bull person that will tell you these are not family dogs. I've never said these dogs weren't dangerous, I know what they are capable of, but just because a few have attacked, doesn't make them all dangerous. If these dogs are dangerous and are all monsters, than so are malamutes, akitas, german shepherds, etc...because they all have attacked and killed people. Do you know about the pit bull ban in Denver? Did you know that within a WEEK of the ban, a malamute attacked and killed someone there? Bans don't save people. And about that comment on the 100 lb pit bull, RARELY in the history of the breed have TRUE pit bulls been over 65 lbs, naturally, they are a medium size breed (the few large ones got to the 70-80 lb range.) This is different than your pom because they WERE BRED at one point up to 25-30 lbs, which still makes it possible to through a few large ones every once in awhile. You cannot argue that, my friend, if so, you're in denial. Maybe breeders you know are very selective, and breed only small poms, creating more small poms, ok. But what about puppy mills who do no such selective breeding, is it completely impossible for a large pom to be produced there? How can you explain my neighbors 16 lb yorkie? Unfortunately, there are Puppy Stores all over south Florida, all selling ill-bred puppy mill puppies. People have bred mastiffs with pit bulls in the past, throwing extremely large, completely out of standard, and the complete opposite of pit bulls, yet, still calling them as such. Thats where people get 100+ lb pit bulls. Do some research yourself, again, I dare you to take a look at the websites I listed. I dare you to see just how horrible & dangerous these dogs truly are.
You have no clue what you are taliking about so you ignore facts to support your bias for pits. You dont even have a family so dont tell me they are great family dogs. To say they are great family dogs is ridiculous. You want me to look at those sites??? ok , you check out the sites of pits killing kids. Oh wait, i forgot , only "ghetto" owners dogs do that, Not yours.
FACT- pits kill kids and people and not just in the ghetto or with bad owners! It's weird, i can go on youtube and find a million videos of pitbulls attacking(and no they arent all in the "ghetto" . Little harder to find ones on pomeranians and labs attacking.
I explain your neighbors 16lb yorkie very easily. It isnt a true yorkie, its a mix breed or it isnt 16lbs.
People who own tigers and other exotic cats say this same nonsense. They arent dangerous its the owner. Next thing you know someone is seriously hurt. Like i said before, i pray your dog never hurts someone but to act like it couldnt happen is very misinformed. Your dog may never hurt someone because of the intense care and training you give it but very few others give that much attention. Why should there be dogs in our neighborhoods that will very likely hurt or kill kids if they arent trained and cared for intensely. Why as a father should i have to worry about breeds like that being in my neighborhood around my kids, having to pray their owner is incredibly responsible?
 

sugarfox03

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You act like pit bulls are the ONLY breeds that are capable of attacking and killing. No, I don't have a family, but that doesn't mean my dogs are not around children. Did you happen to miss the photos of my pit bull with the 4 yr old girl on the first page? If so, check them out. And what facts have I ignored?! WOW...I suppose you are a mind reader as well? Thats talent, my friend, to be able to know what I am thinking...can you guess what I am thinking now? Hopefully you can. And you cannot explain Jake, the neighbors yorkie, you have never seen the dog!! I will try and get a pic of him if it makes you happy, he's almost the same size as my 19 lb shiba inu! And yes, he's papered to PROVE he's a purebred. I guess you missed that part as well. You're selective reading is quite annoying. I have seen the websites, tv news reports, news paper articles and such about pit bull attacks, its very said and disheartening. But what media NEVER tells you is anything about the dog. If you could go and interview each person who has owned a pit bull that killed someone, I guarantee you that dog did not come from the best upbringing. FACT: There's a good chance the dog was chained up most of its life, getting no socialization or training. What I don't understand about you, is how after I have shown you plenty of facts and backed everything up with proof of what I talk about, you still have the nerve to tell me "You don't know what you're talking about." Excuse me, who's the one who has been studying these dogs for YEARS? Um, yeah, that would be me. And you don't have to hear it from me that they are great family dogs, I listed a website full of pictures of pit bulls & children together, or in your selective reading, completely missed that one also? Quit arguing, and just look it up. Go outside you're little box of comfort and actually research something. You won't listen to all the facts I have given you, so go check it out for yourself and see what others think. My thinking is that you are just afraid to see that you are wrong. That other people out there KNOW these are great dogs in the right homes and that you are just afraid of being proven wrong. Just a thought...AFTER checking out this entire thread again and visiting all the sites I listed, and actually comprehending even a portion of it, then reply. If you can't do that, you don't have any room to talk. Thanks.
 

hartman413

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lol wow sugar it seems we are losing a uphill battle in the middle of winter. you know i say this you have your breed i have mine and lets just say what it is. fear people are afraid of our dogs because of what has happened in the past. and u know what thats fine. we both know how our dogs act. we know that they are kind and caring and loving animals that are not capable of hurting another human for no reason. we know this. and that is fine cause our minds are at ease. these people here who are for the ban let them be for it. chances are they will never get out of their little box to even try to help it along while people like us are trying to fight to keep our pets. i challenge any one on here with a non pit. lets put our dogs in a obidence test. lets see whose dogs is better suited for family life and whose needs a lil more work. any takers and jesus youtube is nothing but a breeding ground for misinformed movies of dumb people doing dumb stuff. man if u tube is your source of respectiable video then we already know where ur mindset is @
 

team2jndd

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I dont care how many other dogs attack people. This is about a "misinformed people" about pitbuls. There is no misinformation pitbulls do attack people. I dont care if 50 other dogs do pitbuls do too. If you started a thread that said pitbulls arent the only dogs that attack people nobody would argue. And go and find a book that has a 20 lb pomeranian or 16 lb yorkie. Mines 10 lbs max. Internet sources are not credible. I dont care about that though I like pitbulls i deffinately dont want to ban them but you simply cant say they arent dangerous. I plan to have a pitbul for my next dog. However, when i start my own family, that will change. Unless you have the baby around the same time the dog is a puppy, I would never do it.
 

team2jndd

Active Member
Originally Posted by hartman413
lol wow sugar it seems we are losing a uphill battle in the middle of winter. you know i say this you have your breed i have mine and lets just say what it is. fear people are afraid of our dogs because of what has happened in the past. and u know what thats fine. we both know how our dogs act. we know that they are kind and caring and loving animals that are not capable of hurting another human for no reason. we know this. and that is fine cause our minds are at ease. these people here who are for the ban let them be for it. chances are they will never get out of their little box to even try to help it along while people like us are trying to fight to keep our pets. i challenge any one on here with a non pit. lets put our dogs in a obidence test. lets see whose dogs is better suited for family life and whose needs a lil more work. any takers and jesus youtube is nothing but a breeding ground for misinformed movies of dumb people doing dumb stuff. man if u tube is your source of respectiable video then we already know where ur mindset is @
Who cares where he gets videos? videos are actually substantial. Posting websites is another story....
 

emmitt2

Member
Originally Posted by team2jndd
I dont care how many other dogs attack people. This is about a "misinformed people" about pitbuls. There is no misinformation pitbulls do attack people. I dont care if 50 other dogs do pitbuls do too. If you started a thread that said pitbulls arent the only dogs that attack people nobody would argue. And go and find a book that has a 20 lb pomeranian or 16 lb yorkie. Mines 10 lbs max. Internet sources are not credible. I dont care about that though I like pitbulls i deffinately dont want to ban them but you simply cant say they arent dangerous. I plan to have a pitbul for my next dog. However, when i start my own family, that will change. Unless you have the baby around the same time the dog is a puppy, I would never do it.
Exactly!!!
It's amazing that i actually have to argue that pitbulls are dangerous dogs. Wow, you found some PITBULL websites that say pits are good dogs. Shocking

To say youre dogs "ARE NOT CAPABLE" of hurting someone is the most ridiculous, unintelligent thing i have ever heard. You are trying to argue that labs and even pomeranians could kill a person but your pits COULD NEVER hurt anyone
I dont care what ridiculous pit sites that misinformed bias people like you create and post. The FACT is that pits are not only capable but do kill people and kids. No pitbull site can refute that. And no, they arent all chained up their whole lives, many snap for no apparent reason and kill. Do you really think that wesellpits.com or whatever other biased site you link is going to show the horrific maulings these dogs have done to kids???
p.s.- hartman, i'll put my poms or swissie against your killer any day in an obedience test and laugh at the results. Heres a real challenge for you hartman if you have kids. Have a neighbor kid tackle your kid and wrestle him to the ground(playing as kids always do) in front of your pit and my pomeranian. then lets see who viciously attacks the neighbor kid for playing rough and who just harmlessly barks at the kids playing!
 

sugarfox03

Member
emmitt, you just completely showed how truly ignorant you are about this breed. It's quite comical, to be honest. You evidentally know nothing, yet try to prove you're a know-it-all.
You're selective reading thing is ridiculous...I HAVE NOT MENTIONED THAT PIT BULLS ARE NOT CAPABLE OF HARMING SOMEONE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?! DO I NEED TO MAKE IT BIGGER FOR YOU?
I feel like I am replying to a child, who needs to be told things over & over & over again until they understand. No matter what I put, you always come back with the same argument, thats not doing much for yourself. Yes, pit bulls are dangerous, I have mentioned that before, but they aren't the only ones. You make it seem that they are the ONLY dogs capable of being dangerous, if you are against pit bulls, then be fair, and also hate every other breed of dog who has ever attacked someone, Mr. Non-Bias. I'm not biased, just educated. I understand that nny dog is capable of injuring someone, no matter the size, that is a fact. I understand that pit bulls are one of the breeds capable of killing someone, but that is no reason to hate them all. I'm capable of killing someone, so are you, should people be banned? Thousands of people are killed in car accidents every year, why don't we ban cars? Hundreds of thousands of people are killed because they smoke cigarettes, tens of thousands of people who have never smoked are killed from second hand smoke, why not ban cigarettes? Pit bulls are not the most dangerous thing on this planet buddy, you need to come out from under your little rock and realize this. Good pit bulls do exist, whether you want to believe that or not, they do. There are responsible people who own these dogs, because they understand them, and enjoy their personalities. ANYONE who meets my dogs just falls in love with them. They are happy, outgoing, playful, loving, intelligent members of my family, they are not "just dogs" to me. I haven't said this before, but I do want to apologize for getting so worked up. My dogs are my life, I have dedicated my life to helping bullies, no matter the cost. There are many uninformed people out there that are doing more harm than good, and I want to do what I can to help both people & the dogs. I have done more for these dogs than you can possibly imagine in the 3 years I have been doing rescue work. I have talked numerous people out of breeding their dogs and paid out of my pocket to get them spayed/neutered so as not to add to the pit bull over population. I have done expos to help educate people on the true pit bull problem, and I am hosting the march this weekend to further help the cause. emmitt, when is the last time you really did anything about something you are passionate about? Truthfully. Donating does not count, there's no heart & soul in sending someone a check. When is the last time you did anything for what you believe in? All I want to do is educate people on bully breeds. I want to show people a side of these dogs that media will never tell you, and all you do is throw it back in my face and laugh. Thanks. I don't know how you live with yourself.
and team2jndd - I saw the pomeranian a few years ago, and my neighbor has the yorkie, there's arguing those. They were not on some website.
 

sugarfox03

Member
Originally Posted by emmitt2
Exactly!!!
p.s.- hartman, i'll put my poms or swissie against your killer any day in an obedience test and laugh at the results. Heres a real challenge for you hartman if you have kids. Have a neighbor kid tackle your kid and wrestle him to the ground(playing as kids always do) in front of your pit and my pomeranian. then lets see who viciously attacks the neighbor kid for playing rough and who just harmlessly barks at the kids playing!
I'm sorry, but this is total Bull Sh*t! His dog has NEVER harmed anyone, and you're calling it a killer? Depending on your ancestors/relatives...I'm sure someone has killed someone, does that make you a killer? My dogs, both bullies (a pit bull & american bulldog) are both certified CGC - Canine Good Citizens. My "killer" pit bull is in training to be a therapy dog. What does your pomeranian have, what does he/she do? Next time I have my video camera out I will tape what my "killer" dogs do when kids are around. AT MOST they maul them with kisses, but thats impossible for a pit bull to do, show love & affection. We're the uninformed ones...
 

emmitt2

Member
I live with myself because i havent given my life to promoting something that hurts and kills kids like you have
I actually help PEOPLE, not dogs that KILL people!!

You sound like the child, denying facts to protect your babies. Just like a parent with a bad kid that they think is a "little angel". It wasnt you but your buddy hartman that said his pits "arent capable of hurting someone". That is ridiculous. I've never said ALL pitbulls are dangerous but they ALL certainly have the propensity to be dangerous unlike labs, poms and many others. I hope it makes you feel pround and important to own something,for no reason but your own wants i might add, that may kill or hurt a child someday. Why? Why would you take that risk intentionally?? Lets just say, god forbid you are wrong and that dogs hurts or kills someone?? Could you really ever look in the mirror again? Hopefully your dog never will, but some pits will regardless of their upbringing(under the playing situation i described). If i'm wrong about my pom, the worst that could ever happen is maybe(and i stress maybe) 1-2 stiches not death.
I hope you sleep well after every story you hear of a pit killing a child seeing as how you have dedicated your life to furthering their cause for your own wants. I'm not sure how you can, but good luck.
p.s.- get your story straight. In your second post you said " magnum and 99% of all pits could NEVER harm a person". NOT TRUE!!!
 

team2jndd

Active Member
Originally Posted by emmitt2
Exactly!!!
It's amazing that i actually have to argue that pitbulls are dangerous dogs. Wow, you found some PITBULL websites that say pits are good dogs. Shocking

To say youre dogs "ARE NOT CAPABLE" of hurting someone is the most ridiculous, unintelligent thing i have ever heard. You are trying to argue that labs and even pomeranians could kill a person but your pits COULD NEVER hurt anyone
I dont care what ridiculous pit sites that misinformed bias people like you create and post. The FACT is that pits are not only capable but do kill people and kids. No pitbull site can refute that. And no, they arent all chained up their whole lives, many snap for no apparent reason and kill. Do you really think that wesellpits.com or whatever other biased site you link is going to show the horrific maulings these dogs have done to kids???
p.s.- hartman, i'll put my poms or swissie against your killer any day in an obedience test and laugh at the results. Heres a real challenge for you hartman if you have kids. Have a neighbor kid tackle your kid and wrestle
Increase Size Decrease Size him to the ground(playing as kids always do) in front of your pit and my pomeranian. then lets see who viciously attacks the neighbor kid for playing rough and who just harmlessly barks at the kids playing!
Another good point. My schnauzer is the best dog I have ever had. He is very obedient. However, he is very protective. Anytime anybody does anything to me even if its just playing he will defend me. If he were a stronger dog like a pitbul he would probably do alot more damage. Not because he is a bad dog but because he is doing what he thinks he should. My friend whipped me with a towel and my dog left him with a baseball sized bruise on his leg. He bit his hardest and didnt break the skin. A pitbul probably would have been a different story. Case in point two identical situations with one much more severe result simply because the pitbul has more potential for inflicting damage.
 

sugarfox03

Member
Originally Posted by emmitt2
I live with myself because i havent given my life to promoting something that hurts and kills kids like you have
I actually help PEOPLE, not dogs that KILL people!!

You sound like the child, denying facts to protect your babies. Just like a parent with a bad kid that they think is a "little angel". It wasnt you but your buddy hartman that said his pits "arent capable of hurting someone". That is ridiculous. I've never said ALL pitbulls are dangerous but they ALL certainly have the propensity to be dangerous unlike labs, poms and many others. I hope it makes you feel pround and important to own something,for no reason but your own wants i might add, that may kill or hurt a child someday. Why? Why would you take that risk intentionally?? Lets just say, god forbid you are wrong and that dogs hurts or kills someone?? Could you really ever look in the mirror again? Hopefully your dog never will, but some pits will regardless of their upbringing(under the playing situation i described). If i'm wrong about my pom, the worst that could ever happen is maybe(and i stress maybe) 1-2 stiches not death.
I hope you sleep well after every story you hear of a pit killing a child seeing as how you have dedicated your life to furthering their cause for your own wants. I'm not sure how you can, but good luck.
emmitt - what facts have I denied?!?!?!? ALL large dogs have the propensity to cause damage, the labs you seem to covet HAVE FATALLY ATTACKED PEOPLE!!! You cannot honestly say that labs are harmless. Do you remember that woman from England who needed a face transplant, it was all over the news about a year ago (maybe a bit longer.) Do you know why she needed a new face? A LAB TORE HERS OFF!!! Not a pit bull, a labrador retriever, the dogs that can do no wrong, tore a womans face off. Labs, just like ANY OTHER large breed dog, can attack and harm someone. You have failed to answer my question, have you ever met a pit bull? You are honestly one of the more ignorant people I have heard of, you are in denial and want to live in your own little happy world and "KNOW" that pit bulls are bad.
The people you help are capable of killing people, how's that for an argument? Just because something is capable of doing something, doesn't mean it's going to happen, you fail to understand that. I have rescued around 100 pit bulls & american bulldogs. NONE have ever harmed a person. I keep close tabs on dogs I adopt out, and I am VERY picky with where my rescues go. If its not the kind of home I would give my dogs, where they are part of the family, they don't go. I have adopted many dogs out to families with children. All are just amazed at how wonderful they are. I had one family who had a lab/border collie mix that had to be euthanized because it was aggressive towards their children. I was skeptical, thinking the children were doing something wrong, they weren't. The children were 8 & 10, and knew how to act around dogs. The lab/bc mix would snarl and nip for no reason, if the kids moved too quickly, if they got too close to a bone/toy he had, etc. Every single one of my rescues is thoroughly temperament tested by myself and a professional behaviorist, if I cannot stick my hand in their mouth while they are eating, take a toy away they are playing with, or any other thing they can be subjected to, they don't pass. In all of my years working around dogs, owning dogs, and rescuing dogs, the only breeds that I have been bitten by are a maltese and a lhasa apso. If I was a child, both could have done some damage if they were to bite on the face. Luckily, if you can say that, I was only bit on the hand.
There's a risk involved with owning any dog. Some more than others, of course. But your argument sounds like no one should own any large breed dogs because they all have the capability of killing someone. Sorry, I'm not a small dog person. I don't want a dog that I cannot do anything with, or needs to see a groomer more than I get my own hair cut. Its a lifestyle preference. I love the energy these dogs have, their temperaments are the absolute best, and their full body wag they do when you come home is worth it all. I wouldn't trade my dogs for anything.
And anyone who isn't upset about the news of a dog mauling is just sick. I was upset when I heard about the woman killed by her Presa Canario. That wasn't a pit bull (even though some local news papers stated it was a 'pit bull breed' - they got a letter from me.) But I do get very upset when I hear of a pit bull attack, because I know thats just fuel to the fire they are under right now. I'm scared to death that someone will try and take my dogs from me. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"
Per CNN.com (if this isn't a reputable source, I don't know what is) you're pomeranian is a killer breed also: http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/0...nian.kills.ap/
 

sugarfox03

Member
Originally Posted by team2jndd
Another good point. My schnauzer is the best dog I have ever had. He is very obedient. However, he is very protective. Anytime anybody does anything to me even if its just playing he will defend me. If he were a stronger dog like a pitbul he would probably do alot more damage. Not because he is a bad dog but because he is doing what he thinks he should. My friend whipped me with a towel and my dog left him with a baseball sized bruise on his leg. He bit his hardest and didnt break the skin. A pitbul probably would have been a different story. Case in point two identical situations with one much more severe result simply because the pitbul has more potential for inflicting damage.
Not all dogs are this protective though. I have tried to see if I could get a reaction out of my dogs, they do nothing but think we're playing. My american bulldog has a bark & growl command (for my own safety - I'm 5'0, 100 lbs) she understands her commands and knows when to bark and when its ok. Magnum, my pit bull, bless his heart, just gives more kisses than any dog out there!
My dogs think everything in life is a game. They are the goofiest most playful dogs you'll ever meet. They would never think twice about biting someone because someone whipped me with a towel, thats just ridiculous. They would see that as a game, and try and play tug with the towel.
 

sugarfox03

Member
Originally Posted by emmitt2
p.s.- get your story straight. In your second post you said " magnum and 99% of all pits could NEVER harm a person". NOT TRUE!!!
Sweetie, get YOU'RE story straight. I said that they WOULD never harm a person. That is a fact. Not that they COULD never, but they WOULD never. They all COULD harm a person. Thank you again for you're wonderful comprehension.
 

emmitt2

Member
As ive already said, that story is bogus. They can say it was a pom but it DEFINITELY wasnt a true pom. It was a mix of some kind. No TRUE pom could fit even a premie babies head in its mouth. Ask anyone who has ever owned a true pom( not some mix that the local puppy store gave papers saying it was) and they will tell you that they could not fit a pingpong ball much less a babies head in its mouth. The lab that attacked that lady in england was probably a mix as well but if it wasnt that was an accident that is very rare not a common occurence like pit attacks.
Lets just assume that story is somehow about a true pom, that is still a 1 in a billion chance that will likely NEVER happen again. Pits have killed MANY, MANY times and will continue to do so(not to mention how many horrible injuries that dont kill). Just because a dog is big doesnt make it dangerous. Millions of people have owned labs and there may be a handful of severe attacks worldwide by them, it just is not in their nature no matter how bad they are abused or treated. There are very few pits, presas and the like in comparison but severe attacks by them are very common because it is in their nature to be aggressive. There are plenty of large breeds you could own that dont have an aggressive nature. Pits, presas, and a few others are DEFINITELY unnecessary risks. Noone should have to bury their children because those breeds fit a persons "lifestyle" better than a safe dog. It's great to know that people and kids will die because some people arent "small dog persons".
 

sugarfox03

Member
Originally Posted by emmitt2
As ive already said, that story is bogus. They can say it was a pom but it DEFINITELY wasnt a true pom. It was a mix of some kind. No TRUE pom could fit even a premie babies head in its mouth. Ask anyone who has ever owned a true pom( not some mix that the local puppy store gave papers saying it was) and they will tell you that they could not fit a pingpong ball much less a babies head in its mouth. The lab that attacked that lady in england was probably a mix as well but if it wasnt that was an accident that is very rare not a common occurence like pit attacks.
Lets just assume that story is somehow about a true pom, that is still a 1 in a billion chance that will likely NEVER happen again. Pits have killed MANY, MANY times and will continue to do so(not to mention how many horrible injuries that dont kill). Just because a dog is big doesnt make it dangerous. Millions of people have owned labs and there may be a handful of severe attacks worldwide by them, it just is not in their nature no matter how bad they are abused or treated. There are very few pits, presas and the like in comparison but severe attacks by them are very common because it is in their nature to be aggressive. There are plenty of large breeds you could own that dont have an aggressive nature. Pits, presas, and a few others are DEFINITELY unnecessary risks. Noone should have to bury their children because those breeds fit a persons "lifestyle" better than a safe dog. It's great to know that people and kids will die because some people arent "small dog persons".
I love your answer for everything..."must be a mix." Ok, since its not a natural thing for pit bulls to attack people, those must be mixes too, right? Do some breed research, I'd put it all here, but with your selective reading, you'd "accidentally" miss that part. Read for yourself. Instead of responding to me, take those few minutes and check some background history on pit bulls. You're an ignorant person who is just out to get a rise out of someone. Unfortunately, its working on me.
And yet again, you have failed to answer my question about ever meeting a pit bull? Would you be so kind & answer me? I'd really appreciate that. It really sounds like you have never met one, and don't know a damn thing about them. Am I right? What research on pit bulls have you done that makes you an expert on them and their temperaments? Answer that for me. I don't care about anything else you will say, except the answers to the questions in this paragraph. I can guarantee everything you've read was 1-sided, that the pit bull did something wrong, and you've never bothered to read anything about their history. Right?
 

nigerbang

Active Member
Must be a Mix...
Every dog that attacks (except Pits) must be a mix then...Too Funny..I had a TRUE pom before..One of the meanest dogs I have ever had...must be a mix..wait.hold on...nope..I still have his papers...from the breeder..Have to papers not the dog..The dog had to be put down because of aggresion..I have seen Labs attack..The only reason you see pit attacks are because they do soooo much damage if they attack..Look at the area when you see attacks on the news..Most of the time run down areas..Prolly someone who got it and mistreated it just to say they have a MEAN ASS PIT..wow..a true exercise in iggnorance..You can make any dog mean..Pits can inflict more damage then most..but to say all are out and out bad dogs is just ignorance..maybe one day you will learn..I'll up some pics of My American with my daughter tommorow..Americans=Real Big Pits..
Doom weighs upwards of 96lbs...he might kill you..if you could drown on his drool
 

sugarfox03

Member
Sorry to hear about the pom, but I know I would love to see pics of Doom! When I get home, I'll post some more pics of my oh-so-viscious killer bullies too.
Both of my dogs have been attacked by labs, albeit, one was a mix, but was predominantly lab, the other was a purebred. Magnum was attacked recently, about 2 months ago, he was attacked by the black lab mix. Maui was attacked by a purebred yellow lab at the dog park when she was around 6 months old. Evidentally that dog had attacked other dogs there also, and the owner refused to not bring the dog there. I don't understand it. If I knew my dogs were going to be aggressive (towards people or other dogs) I wouldn't put them in a situation where that was possible. It's so difficult being responsible and all.
 

emmitt2

Member
You people are truly ridiculous. Only pit owners would claim labs are aggressive and bad family dogs and pits are not. Labs are one of the most recognized "family" dogs in the world. Other than poodles they are probably the most common dog and i cant remember even once hearing about them killing someone much less a child. Weird :notsure: To claim pits are better around kids than labs is pure ignorance. Yes, i have met many pits and have seen them 1sthand be aggressive and attack a scottish terrier at a dogpark. I love your "stories" about your poor little defenseless pits being attacked by labs, poms, whatever else.
Niger, if you put down a pomeranian because it was too aggressive you are a sad human being!! What did it do? attack and leave a tiny indentation mark in one of your fingers? Did it make you feel as tough and stroke your ego as much to kill a pomeranian for "aggression" as it does to walk your big bad pit down the street???
I notice again, your only defense of pits and there all too numerous vicious attacks is RACISM. Always blame the attacks on the "ghetto" "thug" and "run down" areas. No white persons pit would attack? right?
I also like the defense that you only hear about pit attacks because of how much damage they do. That is my point EXACTLY. When they bite (which they often do) they will SERIOUSLY HURT IF NOT KILL!! If and when a lab, pom or whatever other dog attacks the damage will be minimal if any usually. Big difference between being bitten by a pom, yorkie or small dog then a pit.
 

sugarfox03

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:mad: I've had enough, you're a fool emmitt. What Niger did was nothing short of RESPONSIBLE for humanely euthanizing a dog that was known to be aggressive. No matter what size the dog, if it has a tendency to bite, it needs to be put down, end of discussion. It must have been VERY hard to make that decision, and you have the nerve to come down on them for it. How do you know that Niger's dog didn't bite a child in the face and caused some serious problem? Would you allow you're children over to someones house who owned a dog KNOWN to be aggressive, no matter the size? I don't care if its a 2 lb chihuahua, if I know that dog has bitten someone in the past, my kids won't be over there unless the dog is locked up. Breed shouldn't matter when deeming a dog dangerous. If it bites, its dangerous. A bite from a small dog can still cause a lot of pain and infection.
You seriously need to go back and read word for word what people have posted. No one is saying labs are not family dogs. All I said was they have the same ability to harm someone as any other large breed. I did say that pit bulls were great family dogs, not saying they are any better than any other breed.
emmitt, I beg you to watch this video. It describes you to a T. If you do nothing else, thats fine, but please watch this video. Keep in mind I had nothing to do with its making. I believe it was made by someone in Europe, although I wish I had the ability to make something like that. Thanks for your time, and please, spend 5 minutes and watch the video.
http://gprime.net/flash.php/thepitbullproblem
 
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